“When Israel went to war, we put on Israel stickers and started to support some of the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]. I would say that was when I was like, ‘Let’s be courageous,’” De Luca said. “But with Charlie, we had hosted him. We had met him. We’ve met Erika,” she added, referring to Kirk’s wife.
DeLuca said she didn’t even think it “could be controversial.”
“Maybe it’s my ignorance,” she said. “It didn’t even cross my mind that somebody could have some sort of issue with somebody being murdered.”
Invita Café’s decision to honor Charlie Kirk sparked controversy before generating overwhelming community backing.(Juliann Ford)
De Luca printed round white stickers with the words “Thank you, Charlie Kirk” and “We Love You” written on them.
“We’ve supported him for many, many years,” she said — but baristas told her the café’s phones were ringing off the hook with people saying “horrible and horrific things.”
“We ended up having to shut down our Google page and Yelp page because we were getting an insane amount of one-star reviews,” De Luca said.
She said what kept her calm was her San Diego community and her church, Awaken, which “showed up” a few days later.
Coffee shop owner Sarah De Luca told Fox News Digital she’s supported Charlie Kirk for “many, many years.”(Rebecca Noble/AFP via Getty Images; Sara De Luca)
“I was actually tearing [up] because I was like, ‘Where did these people come from?’ We went 312% up in sales,” De Luca said. “We were flooded with righteous people just showing up, supporting us, defending us. They were defending Charlie. Obviously, we all were.”
DeLuca said her small boutique coffee shop was soon packed with people waiting 30 to 45 minutes in line.
“We didn’t have any haters show up,” she said. “It was only the righteous showing up – just God-fearing people who are like, ‘Thank you for what you’re doing. Charlie would be proud.’”
The support came not just from her community but from across the nation, she said.
“We didn’t have any haters show up. It was only the righteous showing up,” said De Luca about the traffic in her shop.(Sara De Luca)
“We had somebody from Georgia call and say, ‘Can I just give you $500 and buy the next 100 drinks?’ Somebody walked in and left $300 and just walked out.”
Invita Café opened nine years ago, inspired by De Luca’s Italian family.
“The idea was to kind of create a space where the espresso is the magnet that unites people, and it brings the community together and brings the traditions that I grew up with here to California,” she said.
Invita Café, inspired by De Luca’s Italian family, is about bringing the community and traditions together, she said.(Sara De Luca)
De Luca said she believes “God is so behind all of this.”
“This is insane. But I think Charlie would have been proud.”
When ABC executives told Jimmy Kimmel last month that his show was being pulled off the air, the late-night show’s audience was seated, a guest chef had already started making food, the musical guest had performed a warm-up act, and Kimmel was in the bathroom.”It was about 3:00; we tape our show at 4:30,” Kimmel told Stephen Colbert on an episode of “The Late Show” Tuesday. “I’m in my office, typing away as I usually do. I get a phone call. It’s ABC. They say they want to talk to me. This is unusual: They, as far as I knew, didn’t even know I was doing a show previous to this.”Kimmel said he had five writers in his office at the time, and the only private place where he could take the call was the bathroom.”So I go into the bathroom, and I’m on the phone with the ABC executives. and they say, ‘Listen, we want to take the temperature down. We’re concerned about what you’re going to say tonight, and we decided that the best route is to take the show off the air.’”The audience booed, and Kimmel joked: “That’s what I said: I started booing.””I said, ‘I don’t think that’s a good idea,’ and they said, ‘Well, we think it’s a good idea.’ Then there was a vote, and I lost the vote.”Kimmel said he called some of the show’s executive producers into his office to share the news, and he turned white.”I thought, that’s it. It’s over, it’s over. I was like, I’m never coming back on the air.”Kimmel said the show had to send the seated audience home. Chef Christian Petroni’s prepared meatballs and polenta that he had been cooking before the taping went to waste. Future musical guest Howard Jones, however, taped a song for a future episode: “Things Can Only Get Better,” which Kimmel acknowledged was ironic.ABC suspended Kimmel’s show in mid-September for a few days after a controversial monologue that mentioned Charlie Kirk’s suspected killer – and the right-wing reaction to Kirk’s murder. Two days later, FCC Chair Brendan Carr, on a conservative podcast, threatened to pull ABC affiliate broadcast licenses in response. Then Nexstar — the station group which airs “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” in approximately two dozen markets — announced they would not air the show. Another affiliate, Sinclair, followed suit. And hours later, Kimmel took ABC executives’ call in the bathroom.Kimmel returned to the air the following Tuesday with an emotional monologue — and mega-ratings.Colbert couldn’t get the line outColbert, who also appeared as a guest on Brooklyn taping of “Jimmy Kimmel Live” Tuesday, said he could empathize with Kimmel. The CBS star said executives had made the decision to end his show while Colbert was on vacation. His manager, James Dixon, whom he shares with Kimmel, waited until Colbert returned to share the news.Recounting his desire to tell his audience about the news immediately — despite the fact that “Late Night” is set to run through the spring of 2026 — Colbert told Kimmel that at the end of the following show, he asked his audience to remain in their seats for one more segment. But he had trouble delivering his lines and flubbed the line — twice.”I was so nervous about doing it right, ’cause there was nothing in the prompter. I was just speaking off the cuff,” Colbert said. “They started going, ‘Come on Stephen, you can do it,” because I always messed up on the sentence that told them what was happening. And then I got to the sentence that actually told them what’s happening, and they didn’t laugh.”Although CBS owner Paramount said the cancellation of “The Late Show” was strictly a business decision, many media critics — and Kimmel — questioned that rationale, and some have said it was likely a political decision to appease the Trump administration that needed to approve Paramount’s merger with Skydance.Both Colbert and Kimmel have been frequent and unabashed critics of President Donald Trump and his administration. Trump publicly celebrated when Colbert was canceled, saying in a social media post that Kimmel and NBC’s Seth Meyers were “next.” Trump again celebrated when Kimmel was pulled off the air but criticized — and threatened — ABC when it brought him back on.Meyers made an appearance on Kimmel’s show Tuesday, and the three late night hosts posed for a photograph posted to Instagram. Kimmel added the caption: “Hi Donald!”Kimmel joked with Colbert that Tuesday’s taping was, “The show the FCC doesn’t want you to see.” He introduced Colbert as, “The Emmy-winning late-night talk show host who, thanks to the Trump administration, is now available for a limited-time only.”Kimmel quipped that he was “so honored to be here with my fellow no-talent, late-night loser.” As for the rationale for inviting Colbert onto his program: “We thought it might be a fun way to drive the president nuts.”
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When ABC executives told Jimmy Kimmel last month that his show was being pulled off the air, the late-night show’s audience was seated, a guest chef had already started making food, the musical guest had performed a warm-up act, and Kimmel was in the bathroom.
“It was about 3:00; we tape our show at 4:30,” Kimmel told Stephen Colbert on an episode of “The Late Show” Tuesday. “I’m in my office, typing away as I usually do. I get a phone call. It’s ABC. They say they want to talk to me. This is unusual: They, as far as I knew, didn’t even know I was doing a show previous to this.”
Kimmel said he had five writers in his office at the time, and the only private place where he could take the call was the bathroom.
“So I go into the bathroom, and I’m on the phone with the ABC executives. and they say, ‘Listen, we want to take the temperature down. We’re concerned about what you’re going to say tonight, and we decided that the best route is to take the show off the air.’”
The audience booed, and Kimmel joked: “That’s what I said: I started booing.”
“I said, ‘I don’t think that’s a good idea,’ and they said, ‘Well, we think it’s a good idea.’ Then there was a vote, and I lost the vote.”
Kimmel said he called some of the show’s executive producers into his office to share the news, and he turned white.
“I thought, that’s it. It’s over, it’s over. I was like, I’m never coming back on the air.”
Kimmel said the show had to send the seated audience home. Chef Christian Petroni’s prepared meatballs and polenta that he had been cooking before the taping went to waste. Future musical guest Howard Jones, however, taped a song for a future episode: “Things Can Only Get Better,” which Kimmel acknowledged was ironic.
ABC suspended Kimmel’s show in mid-September for a few days after a controversial monologue that mentioned Charlie Kirk’s suspected killer – and the right-wing reaction to Kirk’s murder. Two days later, FCC Chair Brendan Carr, on a conservative podcast, threatened to pull ABC affiliate broadcast licenses in response. Then Nexstar — the station group which airs “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” in approximately two dozen markets — announced they would not air the show. Another affiliate, Sinclair, followed suit. And hours later, Kimmel took ABC executives’ call in the bathroom.
Colbert, who also appeared as a guest on Brooklyn taping of “Jimmy Kimmel Live” Tuesday, said he could empathize with Kimmel. The CBS star said executives had made the decision to end his show while Colbert was on vacation. His manager, James Dixon, whom he shares with Kimmel, waited until Colbert returned to share the news.
Recounting his desire to tell his audience about the news immediately — despite the fact that “Late Night” is set to run through the spring of 2026 — Colbert told Kimmel that at the end of the following show, he asked his audience to remain in their seats for one more segment. But he had trouble delivering his lines and flubbed the line — twice.
“I was so nervous about doing it right, ’cause there was nothing in the prompter. I was just speaking off the cuff,” Colbert said. “They started going, ‘Come on Stephen, you can do it,” because I always messed up on the sentence that told them what was happening. And then I got to the sentence that actually told them what’s happening, and they didn’t laugh.”
Although CBS owner Paramount said the cancellation of “The Late Show” was strictly a business decision, many media critics — and Kimmel — questioned that rationale, and some have said it was likely a political decision to appease the Trump administration that needed to approve Paramount’s merger with Skydance.
Both Colbert and Kimmel have been frequent and unabashed critics of President Donald Trump and his administration. Trump publicly celebrated when Colbert was canceled, saying in a social media post that Kimmel and NBC’s Seth Meyers were “next.” Trump again celebrated when Kimmel was pulled off the air but criticized — and threatened — ABC when it brought him back on.
Meyers made an appearance on Kimmel’s show Tuesday, and the three late night hosts posed for a photograph posted to Instagram. Kimmel added the caption: “Hi Donald!”
Kimmel joked with Colbert that Tuesday’s taping was, “The show the FCC doesn’t want you to see.” He introduced Colbert as, “The Emmy-winning late-night talk show host who, thanks to the Trump administration, is now available for a limited-time only.”
Kimmel quipped that he was “so honored to be here with my fellow no-talent, late-night loser.” As for the rationale for inviting Colbert onto his program: “We thought it might be a fun way to drive the president nuts.”
Three days after Charlie Kirk was publicly slain, a video appeared on YouTube announcing the debut of singer-songwriter Adele’s latest single, a soaring tribute to the conservative activist’s legacy.
“Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk!” a voice that sounded somewhat like Adele’s sang out over a video showing Kirk with his young daughter. “The angels sing your name. Your story’s written in the stars, a fire that won’t wane.”
According to YouTube posts, the celebrity tributes were plentiful. They came from Ed Sheeran, Eminem, Taylor Swift, Celine Dion, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Post Malone, Dax, Lil Wayne, Jelly Roll, Selena Gomez, Justin Bieber and Imagine Dragons.
But none of them were real. They were all generated using artificial intelligence. And they often featured fake thumbnail images that showed the artists in tears or with mournful expressions.
PolitiFact analyzed 24 YouTube videos claiming to show tribute songs dedicated to Kirk. Combined, these videos gained more than 4.6 million views, and some were shared to other platforms.
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Two tribute songs to Charlie Kirk were attributed to Ed Sheeran. But they were made with AI. (Screenshot from YouTube)
One was uploaded on the day of Kirk’s assassination, illustrating the speed with which creators can generate songs related to a major event.
Nearly all the videos contained disclaimers saying they contained altered or synthetic content, yet many viewers left comments that show they believed these songs were real.
“Thank you, Justin,” wrote a commenter who thought she was responding to Bieber.
“Did not expect this from Bieber,” wrote another.
Comments on a YouTube video titled “Justin Bieber – You’ll Be Missed Charlie Kirk (A Tribute To Charlie Kirk).” The song was made with AI. (Screenshot from YouTube)
The musical tributes sound like they might have taken a full band a week in a studio, said Bryan Pardo, Northwestern University computer science professor and head of the Interactive Audio Lab. That’s part of why people believe them.
“Most people don’t realize how far AI-generated content has come,” he said.
Experts said AI tools can passably mimic artists’ voices, especially when a listener hasn’t spent a long time listening to these artists. But there are ways to identify sonic abnormalities typical of AI use.
Tools can generate songs quickly based on simple prompts, even ones similar to an artist’s style
AI music generators such as Suno and Udio are trained using a vast set of existing songs. With a short user prompt, they create new music quickly and inexpensively.
PolitiFact tested it.
“Make a song about grieving the sudden death of an inspirational figure in politics, in the style of Taylor Swift,” we wrote in prompts for Suno and Udio’s free accounts. The tools rejected the prompts on grounds they don’t have permission to generate an artist’s likeness.
We tried again using more generic language: “Make a song about grieving the sudden death of an inspirational figure in politics, in the style of a 35-year-old pop singer with a young, primarily female demographic.”
Both tools produced songs within moments — two different songs per prompt.
Screenshot from Udio
This does not make musicians happy. Major music companies, including Sony Music Entertainment, Universal Music Group and Warner Records, through the Recording Industry Association of America, sued both AI platforms in June 2024, accusing them of using copyrighted music to train their AI tools.
Suno said in a court filing that the model was trained using “tens of millions of recordings,” but argued the process constitutes fair use.
Artists including Imagine Dragons, Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj and Stevie Wonder argued in a 2024 letter that training AI bots on artists’ work “will degrade the value of our work and prevent us from being fairly compensated for it.”
“We must protect against the predatory use of AI to steal professional artists’ voices and likenesses, violate creators’ rights, and destroy the music ecosystem,” the letter read.
Those tools use technology similar to the kind used by ChatGPT, said Tom Collins, University of Miami associate professor of music engineering technology. Such models are trained on massive datasets with the aim of producing human-like language.
Vocals, lyrics and instrumentation can reveal generative AI clues
Through video comments like those on the tribute songs, fans sometimes show they don’t realize they’re listening to AI-created music.
“These models are definitely at the stage where, if you don’t know an artist’s lyrical capabilities, or the quality of their singing voice, based on, you know, several hours of listening earlier in your life or recently in your life, I think you can be fooled relatively easily,” Collins said.
So what are some cues people can listen for?
Siwei Lyu, University at Buffalo computer science and engineering professor, said that playing the music on loop for a few rounds can reveal some abnormalities. The vocals, for example, may sound “overly smooth or robotic,” contain unusual breathing patterns, have smeared consonants or unrealistically regular vibrato, he said. Lyu analyzed the songs without AI disclaimers and found synthetic elements in the audio, including sudden changes in vocal quality and clarity.
For example, one Kirk tribute song falsely attributed to Dax and Lil Wayne starts out with a low vocal quality, before shifting to a louder and clearer sound, Lyu said. He also detected voice clarity changes at the 0:46 and 0:56 timestamps.
Lyu and Collins each said that vocal and instrumentation mixing may not be as crisp as in a real track’s studio version.
Collins compared the creation of AI music with image generation: “If you’ve generated an image of a person, maybe that person has six fingers, or has, like, two fingers that are kind of melted together. That kind of melting, or that muddiness, the audio equivalent of that are like individual notes that don’t really appear to be a guitar note or a piano note but something in between.”
AI-generated lyrics are often generic and may have abrupt changes in quality, Lyu said. The rhyme schemes may be too regular, the language might be cliché, and the music may also lack the emotional nuance typically found in real performances,.
Collins said that AI-generated lyrics are typically formulaic and simplistic as they aim to fulfill the prompt’s directions. A prompt about mourning might produce lyrics that contain the words “candles” and “heaven.”
GPTZero analysis found a 98% chance that lyrics of one tribute duet supposedly made by Adele and Ed Sheeran were AI-generated.
Collins said he expects these tools to become more sophisticated, producing music that is less easily identifiable as AI. “If we go forward another couple of years, I could imagine that the approximation, that the mimicry, would be far better, and it would be harder, even for me, to tell,” Collins said.
YouTube’s policy as of 2023 requires creators to “disclose when they’ve created altered or synthetic content that is realistic, including using AI tools.” If creators don’t disclose that information, they could have their content removed, be suspended from the YouTube Partner Program, or face other penalties.
In many of the tribute songs, that disclosure is not prominently displayed; it is buried under the video’s description that won’t be seen on desktop unless the viewer clicks “more.”
“There’s a responsibility on streaming platforms that they’re not really fulfilling about verification,” Collins said.
PolitiFact Staff Researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report.
LOGAN, Utah – Turning Point USA returned to Utah Tuesday night for its first event in the Beehive State since the conservative campus organization’s founder, Charlie Kirk, was assassinated at a college speaking event earlier this month.
Kirk was scheduled to appear on campus at Utah State University in Logan as part of his speaking tour, but a revamped cast of speakers includes Gov. Spencer Cox, Rep. Andy Biggs and former Rep. Jason Chaffetz.
Kirk was shot and killed in the courtyard at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10.
People raise placards reading “This is our Turning Point” during a memorial service for slain conservative commentator Charlie Kirk at State Farm Stadium, in Glendale, Arizona, U.S., September 21, 2025. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)
A suspect, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, faces charges including aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, witness tampering and obstruction. He could face the death penalty if convicted.
Supporters showed up hours early from all around Utah for the event, which saw greatly enhanced security measures, including drones, security at every door, uniformed police officers and teams in tactical gear, including counter-snipers.
Turning Point USA’s college tour will return to Utah on Tuesday for its first event in the state since its founder, Charlie Kirk, was assassinated on a college campus earlier this month.The stop, at Utah State University in Logan, is about two hours north of Utah Valley University, where Kirk was killed Sept. 10 by a gunman who fired a single shot through the crowd while Kirk was speaking.The assassination of a top ally of President Donald Trump and one of the most significant figures in his Make America Great Again movement has galvanized conservatives, who have vowed to carry on Kirk’s mission of encouraging young voters to embrace conservatism and moving American politics further right. Kirk himself has been celebrated as a “martyr” by many on the right, and Turning Point USA, the youth organization he founded, has seen a surge of interest across the nation, with tens of thousands of requests to launch new chapters in high schools and on college campuses.Tuesday’s event, which was scheduled before Kirk’s death, will showcase how Turning Point is finding its path forward without its charismatic leader, who headlined many of its events and was instrumental in drawing crowds and attention.The college tour is now being headlined by some of the biggest conservative names, including Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly and Glenn Beck. Tuesday’s event will feature conservative podcast host Alex Clark and a panel with Sen. Mike Lee, Rep. Andy Biggs, former Rep. Jason Chaffetz and Gov. Spencer Cox.And it will further a pledge his widow, Erika Kirk, made to continue the campus tour and the work of the organization he founded. She now oversees Turning Point along with a stable of her late husband’s former aides and friends.‘Nothing is changing’Erika Kirk has sought to assure her husband’s followers that she intends to continue to run the operation as her late husband intended, closely following plans he laid out to her and to staff.“We’re not going anywhere. We have the blueprints. We have our marching orders,” she said during an appearance on his podcast last week.That will include, she said, continuing to tape the daily podcast.“My husband’s voice will live on. The show will go on,” she said, announcing plans for a rotating cast of hosts. She said they intended to lean heavily on old clips of her husband, including answering callers’ questions.“We have decades’ worth of my husband’s voice. We have unused material from speeches that he’s had that no one has heard yet,” she said.Erika Kirk, however, made clear that she does not intend to appear on the podcast often, and so far seems to be assuming a more behind-the-scenes role than her husband.Mikey McCoy, Kirk’s former chief of staff, said Erika Kirk is in daily contact with members of the Trump administration, and has described her as “very strategic” and different from her husband.The events have served as tributes to KirkThe events so far have served as tributes to the late Kirk, with a focus on prayer, as well as the question-and-answer sessions that he was known for.At Virginia Tech last week, the state’s Republican governor, Glenn Youngkin, urged the crowd to carry Kirk’s legacy forward.“The question that has been asked over and over again is: Who will be the next Charlie? And as I look out in this room and I see thousands of you, I want to repeat the best answer that I have heard: You will be the next Charlie,” he said. “All of you.”He also praised Erika Kirk as an “extraordinary” leader.“Over the course of the last two weeks, Erika Kirk has demonstrated that she not only has the courage of a lion, but she has the heart of a saint. We have grieved with her and her family. We have prayed for her and her family,” he said. “Is there anyone better to lead Turning Point going forward than Erika Kirk?”He then turned the stage over to Kelly, who said Charlie Kirk had asked her to join the tour several months ago. She said she knew appearing onstage carried risk, but felt it was important to be there “to send a message that we will not be silenced by an assassin’s bullet, by a heckler’s veto, by a left-wing, woke professor or anyone who tries to silence us from saying what we really believe,” she said to loud cheers.At another event at the University of Minnesota last week, conservative commentator Michael Knowles gave a solo speech in lieu of the two-man conversation with Kirk that was originally planned. Then he continued Kirk’s tradition of responding to questions from the audience, which ranged from one man quibbling about Catholic doctrine to another arguing that the root of societal problems stems from letting women vote. (To the latter, he responded that women aren’t to blame because “men need to lead women.”)As Knowles spoke, a spotlight shined on a chair left empty for Kirk.Knowles said Kirk was instrumental in keeping together disparate conservative factions, and he worries about the MAGA movement fracturing without Kirk doing the day-to-day work to build bridges between warring groups.“Charlie was the unifying figure for the movement. It’s simply a fact,” he said. “There is no replacing him in that regard.”“The biggest threat right now is that without that single figure that we were all friends with, who could really hold it together, things could spin off in different directions,” Knowles said. “We have to make sure that doesn’t happen.”
The stop, at Utah State University in Logan, is about two hours north of Utah Valley University, where Kirk was killed Sept. 10 by a gunman who fired a single shot through the crowd while Kirk was speaking.
The assassination of a top ally of President Donald Trump and one of the most significant figures in his Make America Great Again movement has galvanized conservatives, who have vowed to carry on Kirk’s mission of encouraging young voters to embrace conservatism and moving American politics further right. Kirk himself has been celebrated as a “martyr” by many on the right, and Turning Point USA, the youth organization he founded, has seen a surge of interest across the nation, with tens of thousands of requests to launch new chapters in high schools and on college campuses.
Tuesday’s event, which was scheduled before Kirk’s death, will showcase how Turning Point is finding its path forward without its charismatic leader, who headlined many of its events and was instrumental in drawing crowds and attention.
The college tour is now being headlined by some of the biggest conservative names, including Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly and Glenn Beck. Tuesday’s event will feature conservative podcast host Alex Clark and a panel with Sen. Mike Lee, Rep. Andy Biggs, former Rep. Jason Chaffetz and Gov. Spencer Cox.
And it will further a pledge his widow, Erika Kirk, made to continue the campus tour and the work of the organization he founded. She now oversees Turning Point along with a stable of her late husband’s former aides and friends.
‘Nothing is changing’
Erika Kirk has sought to assure her husband’s followers that she intends to continue to run the operation as her late husband intended, closely following plans he laid out to her and to staff.
“We’re not going anywhere. We have the blueprints. We have our marching orders,” she said during an appearance on his podcast last week.
That will include, she said, continuing to tape the daily podcast.
“My husband’s voice will live on. The show will go on,” she said, announcing plans for a rotating cast of hosts. She said they intended to lean heavily on old clips of her husband, including answering callers’ questions.
“We have decades’ worth of my husband’s voice. We have unused material from speeches that he’s had that no one has heard yet,” she said.
Erika Kirk, however, made clear that she does not intend to appear on the podcast often, and so far seems to be assuming a more behind-the-scenes role than her husband.
Mikey McCoy, Kirk’s former chief of staff, said Erika Kirk is in daily contact with members of the Trump administration, and has described her as “very strategic” and different from her husband.
The events have served as tributes to Kirk
The events so far have served as tributes to the late Kirk, with a focus on prayer, as well as the question-and-answer sessions that he was known for.
At Virginia Tech last week, the state’s Republican governor, Glenn Youngkin, urged the crowd to carry Kirk’s legacy forward.
“The question that has been asked over and over again is: Who will be the next Charlie? And as I look out in this room and I see thousands of you, I want to repeat the best answer that I have heard: You will be the next Charlie,” he said. “All of you.”
He also praised Erika Kirk as an “extraordinary” leader.
“Over the course of the last two weeks, Erika Kirk has demonstrated that she not only has the courage of a lion, but she has the heart of a saint. We have grieved with her and her family. We have prayed for her and her family,” he said. “Is there anyone better to lead Turning Point going forward than Erika Kirk?”
He then turned the stage over to Kelly, who said Charlie Kirk had asked her to join the tour several months ago. She said she knew appearing onstage carried risk, but felt it was important to be there “to send a message that we will not be silenced by an assassin’s bullet, by a heckler’s veto, by a left-wing, woke professor or anyone who tries to silence us from saying what we really believe,” she said to loud cheers.
At another event at the University of Minnesota last week, conservative commentator Michael Knowles gave a solo speech in lieu of the two-man conversation with Kirk that was originally planned. Then he continued Kirk’s tradition of responding to questions from the audience, which ranged from one man quibbling about Catholic doctrine to another arguing that the root of societal problems stems from letting women vote. (To the latter, he responded that women aren’t to blame because “men need to lead women.”)
As Knowles spoke, a spotlight shined on a chair left empty for Kirk.
Knowles said Kirk was instrumental in keeping together disparate conservative factions, and he worries about the MAGA movement fracturing without Kirk doing the day-to-day work to build bridges between warring groups.
“Charlie was the unifying figure for the movement. It’s simply a fact,” he said. “There is no replacing him in that regard.”
“The biggest threat right now is that without that single figure that we were all friends with, who could really hold it together, things could spin off in different directions,” Knowles said. “We have to make sure that doesn’t happen.”
The 22-year-old man charged with killing Charlie Kirk will have a court hearing Monday where he and his newly appointed legal counsel will decide whether they want a preliminary hearing where the judge will determine if there is enough evidence against him to go forward with a trial.Prosecutors have charged Tyler Robinson with aggravated murder and plan to seek the death penalty. Video above: Charlie Kirk’s alleged killer charged with aggravated murder as FBI investigates possible accomplicesThe Utah state court system gives people accused of crimes an option to waive their legal right to a preliminary hearing and instead schedule an arraignment where they can enter a plea.Kathryn Nester, the lead attorney appointed to represent Robinson, declined to comment on the case ahead of Monday’s hearing. Prosecutors at the Utah County Attorney’s Office did not respond to email and phone messages seeking comment.The hearing in Provo is open to the public, just a few miles from the Utah Valley University campus in Orem, where many students are still processing trauma from the Sept. 10 shooting and the day-and-a-half search for the suspect. Authorities arrested Robinson when he showed up with his parents at his hometown sheriff’s office in southwest Utah, more than a three-hour drive from the site of the shooting, to turn himself in. Prosecutors have since revealed incriminating text messages and DNA evidence that they say connect Robinson to the killing.A note that Robinson had left for his romantic partner before the shooting said he had the opportunity to kill one of the nation’s leading conservative voices, “and I’m going to take it,” Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told reporters before the first hearing. Gray also said that Robinson wrote in a text about Kirk to his partner: “I had enough of his hatred.”The assassination of Kirk, a close ally of President Donald Trump who worked to steer young voters toward conservatism, has galvanized Republicans who have vowed to carry on Kirk’s mission of moving American politics further to the right.Video below: Tyler Robinson makes first court appearance in Charlie Kirk caseTrump has declared Kirk a “martyr” for freedom and threatened to crack down on what he called the “radical left.”Workers across the country have been punished or fired for speaking out about Kirk after his death, including teachers, public and private employees and media personalities — most notably Jimmy Kimmel, who had his late-night show suspended then quickly reinstated by ABC.Kirk’s political organization, Arizona-based Turning Point USA, brought young, evangelical Christians into politics through his podcast, social media and campus events. Many prominent Republicans are filling in at the upcoming campus events Kirk was meant to attend, including Utah Gov. Spencer Cox and Sen. Mike Lee at Utah State University on Tuesday.
PROVO, Utah —
The 22-year-old man charged with killing Charlie Kirk will have a court hearing Monday where he and his newly appointed legal counsel will decide whether they want a preliminary hearing where the judge will determine if there is enough evidence against him to go forward with a trial.
Prosecutors have charged Tyler Robinson with aggravated murder and plan to seek the death penalty.
Video above: Charlie Kirk’s alleged killer charged with aggravated murder as FBI investigates possible accomplices
The Utah state court system gives people accused of crimes an option to waive their legal right to a preliminary hearing and instead schedule an arraignment where they can enter a plea.
Kathryn Nester, the lead attorney appointed to represent Robinson, declined to comment on the case ahead of Monday’s hearing. Prosecutors at the Utah County Attorney’s Office did not respond to email and phone messages seeking comment.
The hearing in Provo is open to the public, just a few miles from the Utah Valley University campus in Orem, where many students are still processing trauma from the Sept. 10 shooting and the day-and-a-half search for the suspect.
Authorities arrested Robinson when he showed up with his parents at his hometown sheriff’s office in southwest Utah, more than a three-hour drive from the site of the shooting, to turn himself in. Prosecutors have since revealed incriminating text messages and DNA evidence that they say connect Robinson to the killing.
A note that Robinson had left for his romantic partner before the shooting said he had the opportunity to kill one of the nation’s leading conservative voices, “and I’m going to take it,” Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told reporters before the first hearing. Gray also said that Robinson wrote in a text about Kirk to his partner: “I had enough of his hatred.”
The assassination of Kirk, a close ally of President Donald Trump who worked to steer young voters toward conservatism, has galvanized Republicans who have vowed to carry on Kirk’s mission of moving American politics further to the right.
Video below: Tyler Robinson makes first court appearance in Charlie Kirk case
Trump has declared Kirk a “martyr” for freedom and threatened to crack down on what he called the “radical left.”
Workers across the country have been punished or fired for speaking out about Kirk after his death, including teachers, public and private employees and media personalities — most notably Jimmy Kimmel, who had his late-night show suspended then quickly reinstated by ABC.
Kirk’s political organization, Arizona-based Turning Point USA, brought young, evangelical Christians into politics through his podcast, social media and campus events. Many prominent Republicans are filling in at the upcoming campus events Kirk was meant to attend, including Utah Gov. Spencer Cox and Sen. Mike Lee at Utah State University on Tuesday.
Two eyewitnesses to the assassination of Charlie Kirk say America must return to civilized debate — even if their viewpoints don’t otherwise align.
Hunter Kozak was the last person to speak to Kirk. A self-professed liberal who posts political TikTok videos, Kozak attended the event at Utah Valley University this month, aware that he was in the minority of attendees and eager to debate the conservative Turning Point USA founder.
He was at odds with Kirk on many issues, going so far as to suggest Kirk’s policy proposals harmed the country. But Kozak especially wanted to challenge Kirk on his claims that linked transgender people to mass shootings. As the two began their pointed exchange, a sniper from a rooftop fatally wounded Kirk, mere feet from where Kozak was standing.
Jeb Jacobi says he saw Kirk as an inspiration. The Utah Valley University student was at the event volunteering for Turning Point USA, the organization Kirk co-founded in 2012 to advocate for conservatism on college campuses. It was Jacobi’s second time meeting Kirk, whom he admired for the campus debates that made him popular online. Before this month’s event, Jacobi took a photo with Kirk, and he was sitting nearby when Kirk was shot.
Today, Kozak and Jacobi come together on one thing: Americans need to keep having civil conversations — especially when they don’t see eye-to-eye.
“I think that one of the few things that we can agree on is this necessity for a conversation,” Kozak told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley. “I think that we need to remember that we still have to live with each other. That these are still our neighbors.”
Kozak told 60 Minutes that Kirk’s team had pre-approved his question for the event, and he was placed second in line to ask it. He said he feels a weight in being the last person to have spoken to Kirk.
“I don’t really know how to grapple with that,” Kozak said. “I mean, he’s answered tens of thousands of questions, and I just, that was the first question I’ve ever asked him. We never talked before that.”
Jeb Jacobi recalled running toward safety after the shooting, calling his family to recount what he had seen. “He’s been shot,” Jacobi recalled telling his mother. “I literally watched a bullet enter his neck, and I watched him die in front of me.”
Jacobi said Kirk’s murder likely brings together moderate Democrats and Republicans, even as it drives apart the more radical elements in both political parties.
“I think that there needs to be effective communication between both parties in order to find solid ground on this issue,” Jacobi told Pelley.
On the first day classes resumed at Utah Valley University after the shooting, Utah Governor Spencer Cox visited the campus to speak with students, promoting a similar message of civility and coming together.
“I think it’s important not to tell people they shouldn’t disagree that there’s something wrong with disagreement, or that disagreement is the problem,” Cox told a group of students. “It’s not the problem, right? It’s how we do that, if that matters.”
Hunter Kozak told Pelley he appreciates the governor’s message of unity but is aware of how appealing the message of vengeance can be when coming from politicians.
“My advice would be more towards the voters who vote for those politicians,” Kozak said, “to look at what you are enabling with your vote and recognize that you have a lot more control over the situation together as a community than you might think.”
The video above was produced by Brit McCandless Farmer and edited by Scott Rosann.
Video courtesy of Adam Bartholomew / @Lifeisdriving / Mainstreet Media Utah
Brit McCandless Farmer is a digital producer for 60 Minutes, where her work has been recognized by the Webby, Gracie and Telly Awards. Previously, Brit worked at the CBS Weekend News, CBS Mornings, CNN and ABC News.
A lonely voice rose above the rancor after the murder of Charlie Kirk. Spencer Cox, the Republican governor of Utah, may not have been familiar to many, but after the assassination in his state, he asked whether we could all “stop hating our fellow Americans.” We wanted to hear more and we were surprised to learn the 50-year-old Republican has spent years campaigning for reconciliation. Cox is asking Americans to respect our differences, which, at this moment, is not universally admired in his own party.
Gov. Spencer Cox: I get accused on the right all the time of– I just want people to have a “kumbaya” moment. I want people to hold hands and just hug it out. And we’re done with that. We’re done holding hands and hugging it out. I’m not asking anybody to hold hands and hug it out. I’m not asking for that. I’m trying to get people to stop shooting each other. That’s it. And I think what I’m doing and what I’m saying is the best way to do that. Some people will disagree with that and that’s OK. We should have these debates as a society. I’m not always right. I’ve made mistakes. Other politicians, I think, are making mistakes right now in trying to elevate the temperature. But, but I’m going to just keep having these conversations.
Scott Pelley: In this moment, what’s at stake?
Gov. Spencer Cox: Scott, I, I, I– don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that the, the future of our country is at stake. This grand experiment that we embarked on 250 years ago, can we hold together?
Scott Pelley: And what if our politics cannot find the path to the brighter light?
Gov. Spencer Cox: That’s the question I always ask. When I hear people say that, that we’re at war. I say, “OK. And and and what? What does that mean? What is next? Who, who am I supposed to shoot now?”
The shot, September 10th, was the kind of attack now happening every couple of months or so. In April, the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania and his family escaped after their home was firebombed. In June, in theirhomes, two Minnesota Democratic lawmakers and their spouses were gunned down. A year earlier, on the campaign, it was Donald Trump himself. When told this time it was Utah, Cox didn’t believe it. But there it was on his phone.
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox
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Gov. Spencer Cox: The video was already out. There was no fog of war. There, there was no doubt what had happened. That terrible awful video that I wish I had not seen. I hate, again, social media, that almost every person in this country, including our young people, have seen that video on a loop over and over and over again. And I can’t unsee it. I can’t stop seeing it. Every time I close my eyes, that’s what I see.
The governor sent an aide to the hospital, who reported that Kirk was dead. Cox dialed a number.
Scott Pelley: As you’re calling the White House, what is in your heart?
Gov. Spencer Cox: Just sickness. Nauseous. Disbelief. Anger. At this point, I’m very angry.
Gov. Spencer Cox (during press conference on Sept. 10, 2025): …to whoever did this, we will find you, we will try you and we will hold you accountable to the furthest extent of the law…
His anger was showing.
Gov. Spencer Cox (during press conference on Sept. 10, 2025): I just want to remind people that we still have the death penalty here in the state of Utah.
But when he searched for meaning, he recalled the suffering of both parties.
Gov. Spencer Cox (during press conference on Sept. 10, 2025): Our nation is broken. We’ve had political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination on the governor of Pennsylvania. And we had an attempted assassination on a presidential candidate and former president of the United States and now current president of the United States. Nothing I say can unite us as a country. Nothing I can say right now can fix what is broken. We just need every single person in this country to think about where we are and where we want to be.
Gov. Spencer Cox: I’ve been following, I’ve been studying political violence. And so I, I’m keenly aware when these things happen and I’m seeing, I’m seeing people get, get murdered, get attacked who are Democrats and Republicans and that’s where it came from in that moment.
Scott Pelley: In the days after the murder, as you’re trying to bring the country together, Steve Bannon, the philosopher of the MAGA Right, called you a national embarrassment.
Gov. Spencer Cox: Yeah. I love free speech. I would give my life defending his right to say that about me. That’s OK. We can have that debate. There are some people that think I am a national embarrassment. And that’s OK too.
Scott Pelley: Who do you blame for the division?
Gov. Spencer Cox: I do believe that social media is a cancer. And it is taking all of our worst impulses and putting them on steroids. It, it is driving us to division. It is driving us to hate. These algorithms that have captured our, our very souls. They’ve, they’ve captured our free agency. These dopamine hits that get our young people and our old people addicted to outrage and hate that serve us up on a regular basis are absolutely leading us down a, a very dark path.
Scott Pelley and Gov. Spencer Cox
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A path through platforms that look like civil war, powered by algorithms, programs, written to amplify posts of rage.
Gov. Spencer Cox: The algorithms are absolutely destroying us. Once they know what your political leanings are, then it’s like a pack of wolves that just attack. We have this collective problem where- that we can’t solve because we’re all sucked in, and we don’t know how to get out.
We met Spencer Cox in the capitol at the foot of the Wasatch Range in Salt Lake City. He was raised, one of eight, on a farm of modest means. He’s a lawyer, devoutly Mormon, with three years left on his second term. His conservative record includes tax cuts, expansion of gun rights and restrictions on abortion.
Scott Pelley: You are a Republican but not a Trump Republican.
Gov. Spencer Cox: Well, that, that depends. I did vote for him this last time. He…
Scott Pelley: But not in ’16 or 2020.
Gov. Spencer Cox: That is also correct. And he gives me a very hard time about that every time we’re, we’re together. The tent is broad on the right. And I’m trying to show one way to do politics.
His way to do politics surprised many in 2020. Campaigning for governor, he refused to run negative ads.
Spencer Cox (campaign ad from 2020): I think you should vote for me.
Chris Peterson (campaign ad from 2020): Yeah, but, but really, you should vote for me.
Instead, he asked his Democratic opponent to join him on the air.
Spencer Cox (campaign ad from 2020): We can disagree without hating each other.
Chris Peterson (campaign ad from 2020): And win or lose in Utah, we work together.
Spencer Cox (campaign ad from 2020): So, let’s show the country that there’s a better way.
Chris Peterson (campaign ad from 2020): My name’s Chris Peterson
Spencer Cox (campaign ad from 2020): and I’m Spencer Cox,
Both (campaign ad from 2020): and we approve this message.
Cox took the message beyond Utah when, in 2023, he became chair of the bipartisan National Governors Association. There, he launched a campaign called “Disagree Better,” and went back on the air.
(Disagree Better video from 2023) SPENCER COX: I’m Spencer Cox Republican governor of Utah,
(Disagree Better video from 2023) JARED POLIS: and I’m Jared Polis, Democratic governor of Colorado…
Twenty three governors from both parties joined “Disagree Better.”
(Disagree Better video from 2023) SPENCER COX: Healthy disagreement means not assuming that the other side is deluded, misinformed or actively trying to overthrow America.
This month, Cox took the message to the University of Notre Dame. He’s done more than 20 of these events nationwide, often with Democratic governors, including Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico.
Govs. Spencer Cox and Michelle Lujan Grisham
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Scott Pelley: Does Disagree Better mean that we should drop our differences and everybody meets in the middle?
Gov. Spencer Cox: Absolutely not. In fact, it’s the exact opposite of that. Abortion is an issue on which we disagree passionately. And and yet, even though we have these very strong, it looks like a chasm between us, I think we would both agree that we should be doing more to take care of, of single moms. I think those are the types of things that we can agree on while still being pretty passionate about, about whether we think abortion should be legal or not.
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham: And when you do that and we listen and we find that we– there is some common ground, it– it–reduces, right, lowers the temperature. It provides opportunity not just for discourse, but doing something.
Scott Pelley: Do governors understand something that Washington does not?
Both: Yes!
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham: Yes. We’re completely about results, not about rhetoric.
Gov. Spencer Cox: We like to say that potholes aren’t partisan. And governors do have to deliver actual results. I think there’s, sadly, in in D.C. we’ve seen this performative politics, and, and, and much less substance.
Scott Pelley: There are some people watching this interview who are disgusted that you two are sitting together.
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham: Well, we need courage over comfort. You know, I don’t work for– a partisan party. I work for every single New Mexican.
Gov. Spencer Cox: Yeah, I see her as an American before I see her as, as a Democrat or anything else. I think we need more of these conversations. I think we need them in our– in our own homes, in our own neighborhoods, in our school boards, in our city councils all across the country.
The day Charlie Kirk was murdered, one of the first calls Spencer Cox received was from Democrat Michelle Lujan Grisham.
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham: We should be condemning at every chance we get political violence. Our democracy falters when we don’t. This is an American. This is a person. This is a person who lost his life in free speech. And there’s real grieving for that family. And it doesn’t end tomorrow. It will last a lifetime.
Scott Pelley: Says the Democrat.
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham: Says the Democrat, because it’s true. It’s true.
Gov. Spencer Cox: Please include that.
Gov. Spencer Cox and Scott Pelley on the Utah Valley University campus
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We returned with Spencer Cox to Utah Valley University.
Gov Spencer Cox (to crowd during Utah Valley University visit on Sept. 17, 2025): That flag, that doesn’t represent any single group. It doesn’t represent one part of our country and not another part of our country.
Students gathered where Charlie Kirk was killed. Cox told the crowd they can’t count on politicians. Change, he said, must come from all of you.
Gov. Spencer Cox: I’m desperately looking for more architects and fewer arsonists. Again, it’s so easy to burn down and tear down and– and we’ve got too much of that today. I’m I’m hoping that a positive vision for our country, a positive vision for our party treating everyone with dignity and respect, that’s how we get our country back.
Scott Pelley: Some people watching this interview might be thinking, “He should run for president.” But the fact is you would never survive Republican primaries.
Gov. Spencer Cox: Well, the thought of, of– running for president makes me nauseous. I I, have no interest in that. I’m glad that there are good people who are willing to do that. But– that is not something I’ve ever been interested in. And you’re also correct. The, the, way we select our candidates makes it almost impossible for someone like me to have an opportunity.
Scott Pelley: Is it possible that your message is naïve, that the violence will just continue?
Gov. Spencer Cox: That’s– that’s very possible, that’s very possible. I think the founders were naïve to believe that they could start a new country based on very different principles than virtually any country in the history of the world. I think that it was naïve that– we could rebuild after a civil war had fractured us and we had killed 600,000 of our fellow Americans. So, I believe that naiveté with– some passion can change the world. It’s probably the only thing that ever has.
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Scott Pelley, one of the most experienced and awarded journalists today, has been reporting stories for 60 Minutes since 2004. The 2024-25 season is his 21st on the broadcast. Scott has won half of all major awards earned by 60 Minutes during his tenure at the venerable CBS newsmagazine.
Charlie Kirk and his intellectual godfather, William F. Buckley Jr. Photo-Illustration: Intelligencer; Photos: Getty
When Jimmy Kimmel returned to television on Tuesday evening, the late-night host had sharp words for the conservatives who’d briefly forced him off the air. President Donald Trump had put Disney, which owns ABC and made the call to suspend Kimmel, at risk by making “it very clear he wants to see me and the hundreds of people who work here fired from our jobs,” the comedian said. “Our leader celebrates Americans losing their livelihoods because he can’t take a joke.”
Kimmel had attracted Trump’s ire by suggesting Kirk’s murderer was one of the “MAGA gang,” but previously he was not the most obvious target of the anti-speech right. Once known for co-hosting The Man Show, his late-night persona has always been a bit sedate. As he’s since discovered, the Kirk murder has become a useful pretext for political repression. Kimmel might be the right’s most famous target, but he isn’t alone: Public universities and school districts have fired educators for criticizing Kirk and his work. At least eight servicemembers have been disciplined for comments about the late influencer, and conservative social-media users have targeted “dozens” more across most branches of the military, Task & Purpose reported. Apple TV has postponedThe Savant, which stars Jessica Chastain as an undercover researcher focused on right-wing extremism. The Washington Postfired columnist Karen Attiah for Bluesky posts arguing, in part, against “the insistence that people perform care, empty goodness and absolution for white men who espouse hatred and violence.” Last week, a conservative influencer claimed a Starbucks barista refused to write Kirk’s name on her drink, citing company policy. Amid backlash, Starbucks announced that customers could force workers to write political “names,” but not slogans, on cups.
By punishing Kimmel and others for speech, the right has opened itself up to the accusation of hypocrisy. Conservatives often say they are victims of progressive intolerance, and Trump fashioned himself into their champion. Not long after he returned to power in January, he signed an executive order to restore “freedom of speech” and end “federal censorship,” loosely defined. FCC chair Brendan Carr said he would defend the First Amendment or, as he tweeted in 2024, “We must dismantle the censorship cartel and restore free speech rights for everyday Americans.” Kimmel must not count. Last week, Carr kicked off the Kimmel suspension by telling the far-right podcaster Benny Johnson that media companies should “change conduct to take action on Kimmel” or “there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.” Yet Carr is not a hypocrite, and neither is Trump. They aren’t inconsistent; they simply do not share a basic commitment to free speech with their liberal critics. Instead, they operate within a much older and more restrictive tradition on the right. To a subset of prominent conservative writers and thinkers, free speech has always been a limited concept. There is good speech, which must be privileged, and bad speech, which must be punished.
Conservatives who favor the asymmetric right to free speech do so because it serves a deeper political project. That essential dynamic has played out on the American campus for decades, but it is not limited to the Ivy League; it has censored journalists, ended acting careers, and deported immigrants. If dissent no longer exists, neither does a meaningful opposition. An anonymous Kimmel writer got it right. “Even if Jimmy was willing to publicly apologize and donate money to whatever ghoulish conservative group that is demanding it … MAGA people will never be happy,” they told journalist Rick Ellis. “It will never be enough.”
A few years before William F. Buckley Jr. founded the National Review, he picked a fight with his alma mater. In his mind, Yale University had nurtured atheism and a certain anti-Americanism under the guise of academic freedom. “Individualism is dying at Yale, and without a fight,” he wrote in 1951’s God and Man at Yale, his first book. Buckley’s evidence was thin. Outspoken Marxists and communists were rare on campus, as the writer McGeorge Bundy pointed out at the time, and that forced Buckley to rely on the more nebulous charge of “collectivism.” Buckley attacked a selection of assigned economic texts for “unsound” collectivist principles and complained, “Not one of them so much as pays lip-service to the highly respectable doctrine that it is anti-democratic to take from someone what the people in the first instance decide to give him.” Yale had also drifted too far from its Christian origins, Buckley charged, and cited the chair of the Religion Department, who was an ordained minister but “does not seek to persuade his students to believe in Christ, largely because he has not, as I understand it, been completely able to persuade himself.” The young Buckley wanted to change the way Yale operated so it would promote good speech, not bad speech, as he set the terms. He wrote that Yale’s charter bestowed the “responsibility to govern” on the institution’s alumni, who were more Christian and individualistic than its current leaders, so they should take charge. “Freedom is in no way violated by an educational overseer’s insistence that the teacher he employs hold a given set of values,” he argued.
God and Man at Yale enthralled conservatives as the Second Red Scare dawned. Even a facetious charge of Bolshevism could ruin a person’s career or life; to Buckley, this was less a problem than an opportunity. With his friend and brother-in-law L. Brent Bozell Jr., he published McCarthy and His Enemies in 1954. The best-selling book was not wholly uncritical of Joseph McCarthy but defended his tactics and goals from detractors. As one contemporary review in the Times put it, Buckley and Bozell believed that “while damage to a reputation may result from McCarthy’s practice of this method, the result would not appear to be part of the method” itself. McCarthy, they added, deserves praise for promoting a “conformity” of thought. As Buckley rose, McCarthyism racked up casualties. In 1952, Queens College fired Vera Shlakman, an economics professor, because she refused to tell Senate investigators whether she had ever been a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. A New York Times obituary published at her death in 2017 observed that she “neither taught economics again nor wrote a sequel” to her seminal work, Economic History of a Factory Town.
The MAGA world has many influences, of which Buckley is merely one, but it’s not all that difficult to detect his McCarthyism, campus obsessions, and flair for spectacle in the conservatives who have followed. Roger Kimball published Tenured Radicals in 1990. Before Dinesh D’Souza started selling fake Christmas trees, the Dartmouth graduate published Illiberal Education in 1998. The genre is still potent, as Jacob Heilbrunn recently noted at Washington Monthly: Christopher Rufo, another campus crusader, published America’s Cultural Revolution in 2023. Buckley was “certainly a pioneer of politics as entertainment,” writer Sam Adler-Bell argued in a review of Sam Tanenhaus’s new biography of the man. Despite his intellectual affect and patrician accent, Buckley’s true heirs are “MAGA celebrities” like the late Kirk, in form as well as substance, Adler-Bell wrote. Buckley once defended the Jim Crow regime in an editorial for the National Review because white Southerners are “for the time being, the advanced race,” and the central problem the South faced was “not how to get the vote” for Black Americans, “but how to equip” them along with “many whites to cast an enlightened and responsible vote.” Decades later Buckley said he’d erred by thinking America would “evolve” out of Jim Crow without intervention, but he was hardly a champion of civil rights, and his prejudices are still potent. Kirk once accused “prowling Blacks” of targeting white city dwellers and said that prominent Black women such as Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson “do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.”
The object of that shared project is domination. A thriving network of Christian colleges and universities existed well before 1951, when he wrote his first book, but that wasn’t good enough. He wanted the Ivy League, too. If he could force Yale to teach the right ideas — to say the right words in the right order — future elites would have the right values and the right politics. The campus has been a conservative object of desire ever since. In 2023, Rufo helped take control of the New College of Florida at the behest of Governor Ron DeSantis and conducted an ideological purge. In one example, Rufo said the public university would not renew a visiting professor’s contract on account of his left-wing speech. “It is a privilege, not a right, to be employed by a taxpayer-funded university,” he tweeted.
When Trump regained power earlier this year, he trained the full might of the federal government on immigrant scholars with inconvenient ideas. Masked ICE agents arrested Rümeysa Öztürk on the streets of Somerville, Massachusetts, because she had co-authored a pro-Palestinian editorial. The Trump administration is still trying to deport Mahmoud Khalil for his pro-Palestinian activism — an act of repression that Kirk, the supposed defender of free speech, supported. What’s more, the right wing’s war for the campus was never limited to higher education at all. Kimmel is back on air now, but the era of the Hollywood blacklist does not feel so distant.
When institutions capitulate, individual liberties soon follow, and courage can have life-altering consequences. After Queens College fired Vera Shlakman, it moved on to her former student, economist Mark Blaug, then a tutor. “For a day or two, I contemplated a magnificent protest,” Blaug wrote in 2000, “a statement that would ring down the ages as a clarion bell to individual freedom, that would be read and cited for years to come by American high school students — and then I quietly sent in my letter of resignation.” Conformity is popular because it feels safe, and that is as true now as it has been during each iteration of the Red Scare. Disney sacrificed Kimmel at the slightest pressure from the White House, and although they brought him back, their cowardice bodes ill. By the end of July, nine elite law firms “capitulated” to White House pressure by “pledging nearly $1 billion in free work” to the administration, Reuters reported. The University of California at Berkeley recently shared 160 names of students and faculty with White House officials in response to a purported antisemitism probe.
Still, some liberals are pondering accommodation. In the New York Times, the president of Barnard College condemned “groupthink” and wrote, “The purpose of higher education is not to advance one viewpoint over another, but to provide our students with the tools and training they need to examine and challenge all beliefs, including their own.” The writer Jerusalem Demsas offered a more radical solution in a piece for The Argument. Universities should prioritize the hiring of conservative faculty even if they are “less qualified” than their liberal peers. “A university made up of only the left-leaning sons and daughters of the wealthy will reproduce an unrepresentative elite and an unrepresentative body of work, thus precipitating its own undoing,” she argued, but that misunderstands the problem. Elite schools are skewed to the wealthy, certainly, and we should make them more egalitarian. But if conservatives are sorting themselves into less-selective institutions, as she says, we should also entertain the possibility that they seek the conformity of Buckley and Bozell. My alma mater, Cedarville University, promises students “exceptional academics with a biblical worldview.” The goal is to create a bubble.
Worse: As the right-wing embraces the fringe, it will produce writers and thinkers who are more likely to espouse nonsense. It doesn’t make much sense for Yale to hire a creationist who studied geology at Cedarville in the name of disagreement on campus. Reality is not a viewpoint, but it can look like one to those who deny it. Any college that teaches factual science or history or medicine will face accusations of groupthink, if it has not already. Trickier still, some ideologies are more evidence-based than others. Conspiracy theorists have the right to believe what they want, but that doesn’t mean they should get a megaphone whenever they ask for one. Conservatives including Vice-President J.D. Vance have defended the Kimmel suspension because liberals hurt free speech first; they’re still angry that the Biden administration urged social-media platforms to curb COVID misinformation. But the acts are not equivalent to each other. When people spread lies about a deadly pandemic, it’s not obviously a virtue to let them continue.
If we’re to defend free speech from its enemies, we can’t be content with platitudes. We will have to think more critically about conservative politics and what they signify for the future of our democracy. By this, I do not mean that we should strip conservatives of their First Amendment rights. Instead I favor a certain bitter honesty. At this point in the MAGA era, there is no reason to assume that the right wing and its critics speak the same language, share foundational values, or live in the same reality. There are exceptions, and I think we should always strive to persuade, but we must be realistic about the intellectual and political challenges we face. They aren’t exactly new. As the socialist critic Irving Howe wrote in 1954, “No easy certainties and no easy acceptance of uncertainty.” We do not have to accept the terms the foes of democracy would impose on us. To Howe, “the banner of critical independence, ragged and torn though it may be, is still the best we have.” Now is not the moment to set that banner down.
President Trump said this task force will replicate what is happening on the streets of Washington DC. The president said the goal is to essentially put an end to crime in Memphis and mirror the actions taking place in the nation’s capital. The memorandum President Trump signed on Monday did not include details on when troops would be deployed or exactly what his promised surge in law enforcement efforts would actually look like. Tennessee’s governor embraced the deployment while the mayor of Memphis is not thrilled with the plan. Crime that’s going on not only in Memphis in many cities and we’re gonna take care of all of them step by step just like we did in DC. We’ll have folks without training interacting with our citizenry, and there’s *** chance that that will compromise our due process rights. The president also mentioned he’s still looking to send National Guard troops to more Democratic-led cities like Baltimore, New Orleans, and Saint Louis. In Washington, I’m Rachel Herzheimer.
Trump says he’ll send troops to Portland, Oregon, as he expands military deployments in US cities
President Donald Trump said Saturday he will send troops to Portland, Oregon, “authorizing Full Force, if necessary” to handle “domestic terrorists” as he expands his controversial deployments to more American cities.Related video above: President Trump announces National Guard deployment to MemphisHe made the announcement on social media, writing that he was directing the Department of Defense to “provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland.”Trump said the decision was necessary to protect U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which he described as “under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists.”The White House did not immediately respond to a request for details on Trump’s announcement, such as a timeline for the deployment or what troops would be involved. He previously threatened to send the National Guard into Chicago without following through. A deployment in Memphis, Tennessee, is expected to include only about 150 troops, far fewer than were sent to the District of Columbia for Trump’s crackdown or in Los Angeles in response to immigration protests.Pentagon officials did not immediately respond to requests for information.Since the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, the Republican president has escalated his efforts to confront what he calls the “radical left,” which he blames for the country’s problems with political violence.He deployed the National Guard and active-duty Marines to Los Angeles over the summer and as part of his law enforcement takeover in the nation’s capital. The ICE facility in Portland has been the target of frequent demonstrations, sometimes leading to violent clashes. Some federal agents have been injured and several protesters have been charged with assault. When protesters erected a guillotine earlier this month, the Department of Homeland Security described it as “unhinged behavior.”Trump, in comments Thursday in the Oval Office, suggested some kind of operation was in the works.“We’re going to get out there and we’re going to do a pretty big number on those people in Portland,” he said, describing them as “professional agitators and anarchists.”Earlier in September, Trump had described living in Portland as “like living in hell” and said he was considering sending in federal troops, as he has recently threatened to do to combat crime in other cities, including Chicago and Baltimore. “Like other mayors across the country, I have not asked for — and do not need — federal intervention,” Portland’s mayor, Keith Wilson, said in a statement after Trump’s threat. Wilson said his city had protected freedom of expression while “addressing occasional violence and property destruction.”In Tennessee, Memphis has been bracing for an influx of National Guard troops, and on Friday, Republican Gov. Bill Lee, who helped coordinate the operation, said they will be part of a surge of resources to fight crime in the city.
WASHINGTON —
President Donald Trump said Saturday he will send troops to Portland, Oregon, “authorizing Full Force, if necessary” to handle “domestic terrorists” as he expands his controversial deployments to more American cities.
Related video above:President Trump announces National Guard deployment to Memphis
He made the announcement on social media, writing that he was directing the Department of Defense to “provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland.”
Trump said the decision was necessary to protect U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which he described as “under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists.”
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for details on Trump’s announcement, such as a timeline for the deployment or what troops would be involved. He previously threatened to send the National Guard into Chicago without following through. A deployment in Memphis, Tennessee, is expected to include only about 150 troops, far fewer than were sent to the District of Columbia for Trump’s crackdown or in Los Angeles in response to immigration protests.
Pentagon officials did not immediately respond to requests for information.
Since the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, the Republican president has escalated his efforts to confront what he calls the “radical left,” which he blames for the country’s problems with political violence.
He deployed the National Guard and active-duty Marines to Los Angeles over the summer and as part of his law enforcement takeover in the nation’s capital.
The ICE facility in Portland has been the target of frequent demonstrations, sometimes leading to violent clashes. Some federal agents have been injured and several protesters have been charged with assault. When protesters erected a guillotine earlier this month, the Department of Homeland Security described it as “unhinged behavior.”
Trump, in comments Thursday in the Oval Office, suggested some kind of operation was in the works.
“We’re going to get out there and we’re going to do a pretty big number on those people in Portland,” he said, describing them as “professional agitators and anarchists.”
Earlier in September, Trump had described living in Portland as “like living in hell” and said he was considering sending in federal troops, as he has recently threatened to do to combat crime in other cities, including Chicago and Baltimore.
“Like other mayors across the country, I have not asked for — and do not need — federal intervention,” Portland’s mayor, Keith Wilson, said in a statement after Trump’s threat. Wilson said his city had protected freedom of expression while “addressing occasional violence and property destruction.”
In Tennessee, Memphis has been bracing for an influx of National Guard troops, and on Friday, Republican Gov. Bill Lee, who helped coordinate the operation, said they will be part of a surge of resources to fight crime in the city.
President Trump said this task force will replicate what is happening on the streets of Washington DC. The president said the goal is to essentially put an end to crime in Memphis and mirror the actions taking place in the nation’s capital. The memorandum President Trump signed on Monday did not include details on when troops would be deployed or exactly what his promised surge in law enforcement efforts would actually look like. Tennessee’s governor embraced the deployment while the mayor of Memphis is not thrilled with the plan. Crime that’s going on not only in Memphis in many cities and we’re gonna take care of all of them step by step just like we did in DC. We’ll have folks without training interacting with our citizenry, and there’s *** chance that that will compromise our due process rights. The president also mentioned he’s still looking to send National Guard troops to more Democratic-led cities like Baltimore, New Orleans, and Saint Louis. In Washington, I’m Rachel Herzheimer.
Trump says he’ll send troops to Portland, Oregon, as he expands military deployments in US cities
President Donald Trump said Saturday he will send troops to Portland, Oregon, “authorizing Full Force, if necessary” to handle “domestic terrorists” as he expands his controversial deployments to more American cities.Related video above: President Trump announces National Guard deployment to MemphisHe made the announcement on social media, writing that he was directing the Department of Defense to “provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland.”Trump said the decision was necessary to protect U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which he described as “under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists.”Since the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, the Republican president has escalated his efforts to confront what he calls the “radical left,” which he blames for the country’s problems with political violence.He deployed the National Guard and active-duty Marines to Los Angeles over the summer and as part of his law enforcement takeover in the District of Columbia.The ICE facility in Portland has been the target of frequent demonstrations, sometimes leading to violent clashes. Some federal agents have been injured and several protesters have been charged with assault. When protesters erected a guillotine earlier this month, the Department of Homeland Security described it as “unhinged behavior.”Trump, in comments Thursday in the Oval Office, suggested some kind of operation was in the works.“We’re going to get out there and we’re going to do a pretty big number on those people in Portland,” he said, describing them as “professional agitators and anarchists.”Earlier in September, Trump had described living in Portland as “like living in hell” and said he was considering sending in federal troops, as he has recently threatened to do to combat crime in other cities, including Chicago and Baltimore.“Like other mayors across the country, I have not asked for -– and do not need -– federal intervention,” Portland’s mayor, Keith Wilson, said in a statement after Trump’s threat. Wilson said his city had protected freedom of expression while “addressing occasional violence and property destruction.”In Tennessee, Memphis has been bracing for an influx of National Guard troops, and on Friday Republican Gov. Bill Lee said they will be part of a surge of resources to fight crime in the city.
WASHINGTON —
President Donald Trump said Saturday he will send troops to Portland, Oregon, to handle what he called “domestic terrorists” as he expands his controversial deployments to more American cities.
Related video above:President Trump announces National Guard deployment to Memphis
He made the announcement on social media, writing that he was directing the Department of Defense to “provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland.”
“I am also authorizing Full Force, if necessary,” Trump said.
Trump said the decision was necessary to protect U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which he described as “under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists.”
Since the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, the Republican president has escalated his efforts to confront what he calls the “radical left,” which he blames for the country’s problems with political violence.
Earlier in September, Trump had described living in Portland as “like living in hell” and said he was considering sending in federal troops, as he has recently threatened to do to combat crime in other cities, including Chicago and Baltimore.
He deployed the National Guard to Los Angeles over the summer and as part of his law enforcement takeover in the District of Columbia.
In Tennessee, Memphis has been bracing for an influx of National Guard troops, and on Friday Republican Gov. Bill Lee said they will be part of a surge of resources to fight crime in the city.
After days of silence and mounting criticism, Sinclair ended its blackout and put Jimmy Kimmel Live! back on air for millions of ABC households.
Jimmy Kimmel at the 96th Annual Oscars held at Dolby Theatre on March 10Credit: (Photo by Rich Polk/Variety via Getty Images)
When loyal viewers tuned into Jimmy Kimmel Live! This week, many were met with an empty slot instead of the late-night host’s trademark monologues and celebrity appearances. For millions of households that are served by Nexstar and Sinclair Broadcast Group’s ABC affiliates, Kimmel simply vanished from the air.
This disappearance wasn’t caused by a production hiccup or contract dispute. But rather, Sinclair quietly blacked out the show after Kimmel made comments about Donald Trump and the death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk – remarks critics labeled as insensitive, which sparked swift backlash. In a rare move, one of the nation’s largest broadcast networks indefinitely pulled the plug on the program that has aired for more than two decades now, triggering an outcry far beyond Kimmel’s fan base.
The blackout of the show was trending across all social media platforms, with hashtags demanding Kimmel’s return trended for days. Maybe people accused Sinclair of crossing a dangerous line, arguing that private cooperation was deciding what millions of people could and could not watch. The FCC even signaled interest in reviewing that decision, mentioning concerns about free expression.
By Friday, after pulling the show, the pressure from the public was impossible to ignore. Sinclair announced it would reinstate Jimmy Kimmel Live! starting with Friday evening’s broadcast, ending the blackout and restoring the late-night staple to its regular slot on air.
In a brief statement, the company framed the move as a resolution of “viewer concerns,” but offered little to no explanation for its initial decision.
For Kimmel, the return marks a continuation of a 22-year run defined by political satire and cultural commentary. For viewers, it is proof that public pushback still has power and matters. But the blackout has also cracked open an unsettling debate – if one late-night host can be silenced, even briefly, what does that mean for the future of television in an age of polarizing and corporate influence?
“I said I was going to be done for the rest of the semester and that I wasn’t going to any more schools,” she said. “Two days later, I messaged Justin Streiff, our COO and said, ‘We need to go back on campus.’”
In response to Kirk’s killing, Utah Valley University officials have begun what they described as a “comprehensive independent review.” The campus police chief said that six campus police officers were on duty, but attendees speaking to local news outlet KSL and ABC News said bags brought by students and others were seemingly not checked upon entry. The event was held outdoors and the department has not said if nearby rooftops were inspected.
“We already had extremely tight security on our indoor events but that will be increasing even more now,” Clark said. “Every single person, even employees, have to go through two security checkpoints. There are metal detectors, bags are heavily inspected, and we have increased police presence by a lot,” she added in a text.
Kaitlin Griffiths, the 19-year-old president of the Turning Point chapter at Utah State, where Clark will be speaking next week, said she’s been handling communications between the organization and her school ahead of the event.
“There’s always that worry when it comes to political events like that,” she said. “I do think that I have trust in the security teams that will be there, and it is an indoor event, so it has the ability to be more controlled.”
Griffiths, who said there will be a no-bag policy for attendees, still voiced some apprehension about the fact it would be open dialogue.
“Governor Spencer Cox is going to be speaking at this event, and he gets quite a bit of backlash in our state, from the left and right sides,” she said. “I do think that there will be a lot of debate and questioning when it comes to things that he’s done.”
Not all attendees are voicing similar caution. Owen Hurd, the treasurer of the Turning Point chapter at Indiana University Bloomington said the organization is excited to welcome Carlson to campus in just under a month. “We’re not nervous at all,” he said. “We will not be intimidated by anyone who chooses to threaten our chapter or oppose this event.”
Allie Beth Stuckey, a conservative commentator and podcaster with an Instagram following of 763,000 at the time of publishing, who will be speaking at Louisiana State University on October 27, struck a different tone. Stuckey has heightened security for her Christian women’s event, Share the Arrows, taking place in Dallas on October 11.
“I’m matching my courage with prudence,” she said. “While this tragedy has increased our caution, it’s also deepened our resolve.”
In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s killing, the Republican policy apparatus went immediately to work. The Heritage Foundation, which published Project 2025, and its spinoff, the Oversight Project, issued a call for the Federal Bureau of Investigation to designate “Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism,” or TIVE, as a domestic terrorism threat category. The push comes as President Donald Trump just signed an executive order that seeks to mobilize federal law enforcement against vaguely defined domestic terror networks.
The Heritage Foundation and Oversight Project document, which defines “transgender ideology” as “a belief that wholly or partially rejects fundamental science about human sex being biologically determined before birth, binary, and immutable,” grounds its policy recommendations in a startling claim: “Experts estimate that 50% of all major (non-gang related) school shootings since 2015 have involved or likely involved transgender ideology.”
When WIRED asked for the data behind this claim, the Oversight Project did not respond; the Heritage Foundation pointed to a tweet from one of its vice presidents, Roger Severino, claiming that “50% of major (non-gang) school shootings since 2015” involve a transgender shooter or trans-related motive. Severino also lays out what appears to be his entire dataset: eight shootings, four of which, he claims, involve “a trans-identifying shooter and/or a likely trans-ideology related motivation.”
The data tell a different story.
Since 2015, at least four dozen shootings have taken place on school grounds, according to data from the K-12 School Shooting Database, which has tracked every incident involving a gun on school grounds since 1966. Only three perpetrators in the database—the 2019 shooter at STEM School Highlands Ranch in Colorado and the Covenant School shooter in Nashville in 2023 among them—have been credibly identified in public reporting as transgender or undergoing gender-affirming care. Nashville police concluded the shooter there was not motivated by a clear political or ideological agenda, but prioritized notoriety and infamy. In Colorado, investigators say one of the shooters, a transgender boy, cited bullying and long-standing mental health struggles as motivations.
In an August shooting, a 23-year-old individual opened fire outside Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis. The shooter had legally changed their name and written about conflict over gender identity, but there is no public evidence they consistently identified as transgender, making classification uncertain. Police say the attack was fueled by hostility toward Jews, Christians, and minorities, along with a quest for notoriety. Prosecutors added the animus was sweeping, saying the shooter “expressed hate towards almost every group imaginable.”
The K-12 database, the most comprehensive of its kind, does not include gender data for about 12.5 percent of school shooters since 2015, which only makes it more difficult to draw firm conclusions about broader patterns.
Other mass shootings at schools, including Parkland in 2018 and Uvalde in 2022, were carried out by young men with histories of grievance, misogyny, or violent ideation. None were tied to “transgender ideology.”
The larger pattern, researchers say, points in the opposite direction: White supremacist, anti-government, and misogynist beliefs account for the lion’s share of ideologically motivated gun violence. Targeting “transgender ideology” as a terrorism category, they warn, confuses identity with ideology, risks licensing violence against anyone who defies gender norms, and shifts attention away from the real drivers of schoolyard violence.
The man accused of killing Charlie Kirk will have an experienced team of lawyers representing him in the high-profile capital murder case.
Utah County hired three attorneys to represent Tyler James Robinson after 4th District Court Judge Tony Graf found he doesn’t have the financial means to pay a lawyer.
Salt Lake City attorney Kathryn N. Nester is the lead counsel, while Michael N. Burt and Richard G. Novak, both of California, are co-counsel. All have substantial experience in death penalty cases.
Robinson allegedly shot Kirk with a high-powered rifle from a rooftop as the conservative political activist spoke at an outdoor event at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10. At the urging of his parents and a family friend, Robinson turned himself in to police near his home in Washington County, Utah, the next day. Authorities announced the arrest in a press conference Sept. 12.
Robinson, 22, is charged with aggravated murder and six other crimes in connection with the fatal shooting. Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray is pursuing the death penalty.
The county estimates the taxpayer-funded defense and prosecution of Robinson to exceed $1.3 million — $750,000 for the court-appointed lawyers and $600,000 for additional staff in the county attorney’s office.
Well-qualified attorneys
The Utah Rules of Criminal Procedure requires lawyers assigned to death penalty cases to meet certain criteria, including extensive experience in felony or capital cases, completing approved death penalty education and having sufficient time and resources to provide a rigorous defense. The rule calls for the court to appoint at least two attorneys in capital cases.
Nester, Burt and Novak appear to possess those credentials, according to declarations filed in court this week.
Nester has done criminal defense work for 33 years, appearing as lead or co-counsel in nine aggravated, felony and capital murder cases in state and federal court in Mississippi, Oklahoma, Texas, California and Utah. Two of them proceeded to a verdict.
Burt has practiced law for 47 years, including as head trial attorney with the San Francisco Public Defender’s Office for 24 years. He has specialized in capital cases the past 18 years and is the editor-in-chief of the California Death Penalty Defense Manual.
According to his court declaration, he has tried over 50 cases before a jury, including eight lengthy capital cases in state or federal courts in California, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Mexico and Pennsylvania. He has been appointed “learned counsel” in 27 federal death penalty cases throughout the country, meaning he is an expert in that area of the law.
Novak, according to his declaration, has practiced law since 1990, with an emphasis on criminal defense work, including capital defense for the last 20 years. He has been lead or co-counsel in over 25 death-eligible homicide cases in federal courts in Alaska, Arizona, Nevada and California, and in state court in California. He worked as a federal public defender before going into private practice.
Nester’s office declined to comment about the case.
Robinson’s next court hearing
Robinson is held in the Utah County Jail without bail. A hand-written notation in a Sept. 24 court filing restricting his possession of firearms reads “high risk/suicide watch.”
He made his initial court appearance via video conference from the jail last week wearing a suicide-prevention smock, which court officials said is standard for high-profile prisoners.
Robinson is entitled to a preliminary hearing under Utah law, where the judge decides if the prosecution has enough evidence for a trial. An arraignment then follows in which the defendant enters either a guilty or not guilty plea to the charges.
He is due in court Sept. 29 for a waiving hearing in which he can decide whether to give up his right to a preliminary hearing to move more quickly to the arraignment. Initially scheduled as a virtual hearing, Graf this week changed it to an in-person hearing.
Death penalty cases in Utah
Aggravated murder is the only offense subject to the death penalty in Utah. The law contains a list of circumstances under which prosecutors could charge a person with that offense including, “the murderer knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than the victim and the murderer,” which what prosecutors cited in the Robinson case.
In addition to the that case, the Utah County attorney is prosecuting one of the other two active death penalty cases in Utah.
Michael Aaron Jayne, 42, of Garrett, Indiana, is accused of intentionally hitting and killing Santaquin Police Sgt. Bill Hooser with his semitrailer on I-15, after being pulled over for a stop sign violation last year. Jayne is charged with aggravated murder and several other felonies.
Just last month, Ryan Michael Bate, 30, allegedly shot and killed Tremonton Police Sgt. Lee Sorensen and officer Eric Estrada when they responded to a domestic dispute at his home.
There are currently four men on death row in Utah. The average length of stay on death row is about 34 years. Lethal injection is the primary method of execution in Utah but firing squad is an alternative method. Executions are carried out at the Utah State Correctional Facility in Salt Lake City.
As conservative activist Erika Kirk publicly mourned her husband Charlie Kirk, social media users targeted her work on a Romanian charity project.
“Did ya’ll know Erika Kirk is banned from Romania because her Evangelical group was accused of trafficking children out of Romanian villages?” one self-described “leftist” X user wrote Sept. 23.
Another post from an X user whose bio encouraged people to “vote blue” said, “Erika Kirk is banned from Romania due to sex trafficking allegations — Just saying…”
A PolitiFact reader also texted us to ask if a charity Kirk ran was “accused of child trafficking in Romania.”
Kirk, whose maiden name is Frantzve, founded the nonprofit organization Everyday Heroes Like You, which aimed to assist other charities. That work included an international Romanian Angels project that teamed up with the U.S. Marine Corps to sponsor a Romanian orphanage, Kirk once told Arizona Foothills Magazine.
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What’s the evidence for these claims? There isn’t any.
Some posts repeated the baseless narrative without giving any hint about where it originated.
One of the earliest posts we found, dated Sept. 16, said Kirk’s organization had links to missing Romanian children and trafficking and included screenshots of two articles.
The first, a 2001 report from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, was about a Romanian investigation into Israeli adoption agencies and an international conspiracy to sell children’s organs for transplants. The report did not mention Kirk, Romanian Angels or Everyday Heroes Like You. Kirk was about 13 years old when that news report was published.
The second was a 2023 article from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, a media organization founded by the U.S. that reports internationally, including in Romania. It detailed the stories of Romanian children, now adults, who were adopted internationally and who’ve sought information on their Romanian birth families — including some people who concluded they were trafficked as children. This report also did not mention Kirk, Romanian Angels or Everyday Heroes Like You.
Another Sept. 18 post included a screenshot of a Jan. 23, 2022, BBC video titled, “Sex trafficking: Children groomed in Romania sent to UK.” The nine-minute BBC piece focused on young Romanian girls who it reported were groomed in Romania to be trafficked to the United Kingdom. It didn’t mention Kirk or either of her organizations.
Both X posts also contained a low-resolution image with a Romanian Angels banner that encouraged people to “join the movement.” Using a reverse image search, we found a higher resolution version of what looks like a flier with details for a fundraiser organized by Everyday Heroes Like You. The flier, other documents, and Kirk’s socialmediaposts show her traveling to Romania and discussing the project from 2012 to 2014.
The flier says people can “change the life of a Romanian orphan this holiday season” by “adopting” a child, which involved selecting their name from a list, purchasing their “wish list item,” and then bringing it to pack as a gift that would be sent to Orphanage Antonio in Constanta, Romania. An archived version of Everyday Heroes Like You’s website says the project involved a partnership with U.S. service members and United Hands Romania.
We contacted the U.S. Marine Corps and U.S. Army to ask about the partnerships and did not hear back. We also contacted United Hands Romania and received no response.
We emailed press contacts at Romania’s Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Romanian Police, the General Inspectorate of Border Police and the National Agency Against Trafficking in Persons. We received no response.
The news organization Lead Stories said its Romanian staff reviewed media reports and court records and found only positive mentions of work by Romanian Angels and Everyday Heroes Like You.
“Romanian media reported Erika Kirk’s ‘Everyday Heroes like You’ made donations in the form of gifts to Antonio Placement Center in Constanța, as well as to the local hospital, between 2011 and 2015,” Lead Stories reported. “There is no evidence that the ministries were involved in actual international adoptions. A local newspaper article documented the gift donations to the orphans.”
We also searched using the Nexis news database for reports about Kirk being banned from Romania and found none.
We rate the claim that “Erika Kirk is banned from Romania because her Evangelical group was accused of trafficking children out of Romanian villages” False.
PolitiFact Researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report.
Editor’s note: Google translations of Romanian government websites were used when reporting this article.
Fairview Park received hundreds of calls and emails calling for former Council President Michael Kilbane’s resignation in the aftermath of Kilbane’s comments on the September 10 assassination of 31-year-old political activist Charlie Kirk.
Hours after Kirk was shot during a Q&A at Utah Valley University, Kilbane took to Facebook to share his thoughts on Kirk’s murder.
“A lot of good people died today,” he wrote. “Charlie Kirk wasn’t one of them.”
From the day of Kilbane’s comment to his resignation days later on September 12, the city received more than 700 emails and roughly 350 calls on the topic, with the vast majority of them urging Kilbane to apologize to Fairview Park residents and abandon his post immediately.
Kilbane apologized as the pressure grew.
“I apologize profusely. It was in bad taste,” Kilbane told Cleveland.com. “It was a horrible thing that happened to the man and I’m sorry for his family.”
“Nobody deserves that, no matter what we think of each other’s politics,” he said. “Nobody deserves to be shot. It’s very sad.”
But he resigned anyway.
Kirk’s shooting death, and the global reaction to it, has prompted a debate on freedom of speech, as a slew of professionals lost and continue to lose jobs over their comments ranging from the crude to simply observational. Republican influencers and commentators have engineered an internet pressure campaign on employers, one that was backed up by Vice President J.D. Vance.
“Call them out, and hell, call their employer,” Vance said. “We don’t believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.”
More than 100 teachers, journalists, doctors, first responders and other workers—including Jimmy Kimmel and Hamilton County Judge Ted Berry—have been reprimanded or fired because of their takes on Kirk’s assassination, USA Today reported.
Kilbane is among them.
In hundreds of emails reviewed by Scene, a horde of Fairview Park residents and outside observers sent fiery harangues to the inboxes of Kilbane and Mayor Bill Schneider, with most suggesting the council president offended his city by downplaying the ruthless murder of a father of two.
“Such a statement is appalling, disrespectful, and unbecoming of an elected official who represents the community,” one wrote. “Regardless of political differences, celebrating or trivializing the death of others is conduct that violates the standards of professionalism, respect, and integrity that city leadership should uphold.”
“Your primary obligation is to serve the public interest and foster a community of respect and unity,” another said. “Your recent remarks have severely undermined public confidence in your ability to fulfill that obligation without bias.”
“DO U HAVE A SOUL?!?!?!?” wrote another.
And others just a simple, “Fuck you.”
A small minority sympathized with Kilbane.
“For what it is worth, your statement is correct, a guy that believes gays should be stoned, Black pilots are DEI hires, etc., etc., is not a good guy,” one wrote Kilbane. “I have empathy for his family and friends for their loss, but that doesn’t change the fact that was a hate monger.”
“We stand behind you and completely agree with your statement,” another wrote. “Charlie Kirk was a scumbag and while neither of us condone gun violence as an answer, I think the country is a better place without his hateful rhetoric.”
As of Thursday, Kilbane’s position has not yet been filled.
I admit I don’t like much about Charlie Kirk. But if I understand it correctly, his speeches were about his constitutional right to say what he wanted about political figures and people that didn’t agree with his philosophy.
That being said, I wonder how he would feel about people losing their jobs or getting lambasted for the same thing?
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Georgetown University said it removed a second wave of inflammatory posters mocking the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and has reported the incident to the FBI.
Photos of the flyers at the elite Washington, D.C., university, including one that showed Kirk’s face with his eyes blacked out and the words “Follow your leader” and “Rest in p-ss Charlie,” were first obtained by Fox News.
The posters were taped up Thursday night in Georgetown’s central Red Square, the school’s main free speech zone. They also carried QR codes and the seal of the “Georgetown John Brown Club,” a group tied to leftist activism and past violence.
“Georgetown University has no tolerance for calls for violence or threats to the university,” a university spokesperson told Fox News Digital.
More “Hey fascist! Catch!” flyers were spotted on Georgetown University’s campus in Washington, D.C., Thursday, before being removed.(Obtained by Fox News Digital)
“Upon discovering the new flyers, the university removed them and reported them to the FBI. The university’s team of safety and security experts, including its police department and specialized threat assessment professionals, will continue to investigate this incident and work in partnership with law enforcement to ensure the safety of our community.”
Shae McInnis, treasurer of the Georgetown College Republicans, told Fox News Digital he was taken aback by the flyers’ reappearance on campus.
“Just even more shocked than I was [Wednesday]… it really makes me feel like our entire university is under attack by people with no decency and no respect for our society,” he said.
McInnis said conservative students are now openly questioning whether it is even safe to host events on campus.
“Should I go out to this event? Should we have a Georgetown College Republicans event? Is that even safe now?” he asked. But, he added, his group refuses to back down: “They’re trying to shut us up, but we’re not going to. We’re going to be bolder, be louder and proclaim our message with confidence.”
Posters mocking conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s assassination were taped up at Georgetown University on Thursday, before being removed and reported to the FBI.(Obtained by Fox News Digital)
U.S. Education Secretary Linda McMahon condemned the flyers Wednesday, writing on X that violent rhetoric on campus “must be condemned by institutional leaders.”
The first round of posters appeared on Wednesday and used the slogan “Hey fascist! Catch!”
Accused assassin Tyler Robinson used the same phrase etched onto the shell casing in Charlie Kirk’s Sept. 10 killing at Utah Valley University. Those same flyers also declared, “The only political group that celebrates when Nazis die,” alongside a QR code linking to the John Brown Gun Club.
McInnis said Thursday’s posters marked a clear escalation.
“[Wednesday] there were fewer posters on a less prominent area of campus. Today, they went to what’s called ‘Red Square,’ the main free speech zone… They went in broad daylight… They’re being even more brash.”
Students walk by a building on campus with various posters and flyers at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.(Kiera McDonald/Fox News Digital)
He warned the rhetoric has already chilled free speech on campus. “How can people be safe to express themselves freely if they know their classmates could be wanting to kill them, literally kill them for expressing their own ideas?”
The John Brown Gun Club, cited in the Georgetown flyers, is classified as a far-left group by the Center for Counter Extremism. It has been linked to violence, including a July 4, 2025, armed attack on an ICE detention center in Texas that left an officer injured, and the 2019 attempted firebombing of an ICE facility in Tacoma, Washington, where attacker Willem van Spronsen was killed.
McInnis called for swift accountability.
“The university should identify every student involved, and they must be immediately expelled… If the university is not willing to do that, I would urge the federal government to please help,” he said. “Please protect conservative students at Georgetown and across every campus in our country.”
Tim Allen is speaking out about how Erika Kirk’s memorial speech “deeply affected” him.
On Thursday, Allen took to X to share that he was personally moved by Kirk’s forgiveness of the man who allegedly killed her husband, Charlie Kirk, since forgiveness has not been as easy for him to give.
“When Erika Kirk spoke the words on the man who killed her husband — ‘That man … that young man … I forgive him’ — that moment deeply affected me.”
Tim Allen was “deeply affected” by Erika Kirk’s speech at her husband’s funeral.(Getty Images)
“I have struggled for over 60 years to forgive the man who killed my Dad. I will say those words now as I type: ‘I forgive the man who killed my father.’ Peace be with you all,” Allen wrote.
Allen’s father died in 1964 after a drunk driver’s vehicle collided with his vehicle. Allen was 11 years old at the time of his father’s death.
“I have struggled for over 60 years to forgive the man who killed my Dad. I will say those words now as I type: ‘I forgive the man who killed my father.’ Peace be with you all.”
— Tim Allen
At Charlie’s memorial service on Sunday, Erika publicly forgave Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old who is accused of killing the Turning Point USA founder.
“Our Savior said, ‘Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.’ That young man … I forgive him,” Erika said. “I forgive him because it was what Christ did, and it’s what Charlie would do.”
At Charlie Kirk’s memorial, Erika Kirk forgave the man accused of killing her husband.(Charlie Kirk via Instagram)
Charlie was assassinated at a Turning Point USA event at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10 in Orem, Utah.
Robinson was arrested and is facing several charges, including aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, obstruction of justice, witness tampering and violent offense in the presence of a child.