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  • ‘GOAT’ Star Caleb McLaughlin Shares His Blunt Take on ‘Stranger Things’ “Conformity Gate”

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    Just six weeks after closing the basement door on Stranger Things, Caleb McLaughlin is back with GOAT, his biggest movie to date. 

    The 24-year-old voices the title character in Sony Pictures Animation’s latest film, furthering the highly impressive streak they’ve been on with the Oscar-winning Spider-Verse trilogy and the Oscar-nominated KPop Demon Hunters. The literal goat in question is Will Harris, whose dreams of playing professional roarball are dampened by his undersized frame. The game is a version of basketball in which robust animals play hoops within their unique biomes. One day, Will goes viral after embarrassing ROAR league MVP, Mane Attraction (Aaron Pierre), during a streetball challenge, prompting his favorite team, the Vineland Thorns, to sign him to a season-ending contract in a desperate attempt to juice ticket sales.

    McLaughlin is no stranger to underdog stories that are produced by NBA greats. He previously played LeBron James’ best friend and former teammate, Dru Joyce III, in the James-produced Shooting Stars (2023), which chronicled the NBA superstar’s decorated high school basketball team in Akron, Ohio. The Tyree Dillihay-directed GOAT also counts James’ fellow NBA icon and Olympic teammate, Stephen Curry, as a producer and voice actor.

    These fictional underdog stories remind McLaughlin of one of his own formative experiences where he and another child actor were accidentally double-booked to play the same role in a movie. McLaughlin was subsequently asked to serve as a dancer instead of an actor, and while he held his head up high in the moment, the emotion and humiliation he felt that day only fueled him going forward.

    “I remember going to the bathroom and crying. I said to myself, ‘I don’t want to ever feel like this again. I’m not going to let it happen,’” McLaughlin tells The Hollywood Reporter in support of GOAT‘s Feb. 13 theatrical release. “There was growth in that moment. I got stronger and I got better because of that underdog situation.”

    Of course, the tears he shed that day would soon be replaced by the elation of landing an integral role on what would become the most popular streaming series of all time in Stranger Things. McLaughlin recently joined co-stars Finn Wolfhard and Gaten Matarazzo on SNL to poke fun at a viral fan theory that emerged following the Dec. 31 series finale. Dubbed “Conformity Gate,” fans speculated that the final episode’s 35-minute epilogue was really just an illusion created by the mind-controlling big bad, Vecna, paving the way for the real finale the following week. However, it was all a grand case of apophenia, as humans have a tendency to create patterns out of disparate points.

    Initially, McLaughlin thought the theory was short-sighted. But he’s since come to the conclusion that Stranger Things fans were coping with the loss of the beloved show in the same way that the characters were coping with the loss of their dear friend, Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown), by adopting the far-fetched belief that there’s more to the story. In reality, McLaughlin — like his frequent scene partner, Sadie Sink — is convinced that “El” is dead and gone.

    “At first, I thought the ‘Conformity Gate’ theory was dumb. I get that people want to live in this optimistic place of, ‘Oh, we want more Stranger Things,’ but I was like, ‘Guys, it’s over. It’s been ten years,’” McLaughlin says. “I think people missed the concept of what the show is when they were like, ‘Oh, there’s going to be more.’ No, that’s just Mike’s imagination. That’s who he’s always been, even in season one. It’s all just storytelling.”

    Below, during a recent conversation with THR, McLaughlin also discusses how he shot Stranger Things 5 without knowing that his co-star David Harbour was also a part of GOAT’s decorated voice cast.

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    GOAT is your first project in a post-Stranger Things world. How are you feeling as you head into this new era?

    I’m loving it. I appreciate my past, and it’s projected me to where I am today. So I’m really happy that I’m starting off the new year, and life after Stranger Things, with GOAT.

    Will (Caleb McLaughlin) in Columbia Pictures and Sony Picture Animation’s Goat.

    Sony Pictures

    Did you record your goat character named Will during your downtime on Stranger Things 5?

    Yeah, I filmed Stranger Things and recorded GOAT at the same time. I would go in to record whenever I had days off; I also went in during some weekends as well. The cool thing about doing animation and voiceovers is that it’s very flexible. Regardless of where you are in the world, you can get it done. [Vocal] booths pretty much anywhere. My last recording session was actually in London during the Stranger Things 5 press tour, so it took about two years to finish. 

    Your Stranger Things castmate David Harbour also has a role in GOAT. Did you ever bump into each other at an Atlanta-area recording studio and realize you were castmates on two projects at the same time?

    I actually didn’t even know he was cast as [Will’s rhinoceros teammate] Archie till the [middle] of 2025. We worked with each other on all of Stranger Things 5 without knowing we were both on another project at the same time. No one told me because of behind-the-scenes things and contracts and just wanting to keep the project under wraps. So he couldn’t really say anything while we were working together throughout 2024, and I also couldn’t tell anyone that I was doing GOAT.

    Will (Caleb McLaughlin) in Columbia Pictures and Sony Picture Animation’s GOAT.

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    Do you perform your voiceover lines differently than you would in live-action? Are you supposed to add more inflection and whatnot? 

    Most definitely. I’m used to expressing my character through my physicality and my facial expressions, but with this character, I had to hone in on his personality through his voice and his tone. So I had to compensate for what I usually do with my voice, and I knew that the animation was going to be able to deliver who the character is through the mannerisms they wanted for Will. But, as the actor, I had to make sure that every question and every statement is heard in a more exaggerated way than I’ve ever had to do on Stranger Things or anything else. 

    Basketball has been a through-line in your career thus far. You played a basketball player in High Flying Bird, Shooting Stars, Stranger Things and now GOAT. You gravitated toward the arts when you were rather young, but did you ever have a chance to play organized ball? 

    I played organized ball in my hometown before I started my acting career. But once it started, I was only able to partake in games with friends or even just by myself. Most of the time, I’d play by myself, but I still try to play when I can.

    Will (Caleb McLaughlin) in Columbia Pictures and Sony Pictures Animation’s GOAT.

    Sony Pictures

    To be accurate, GOAT revolves around a variation of basketball called roarball. It’s played by animals within their specific ecosystems. Will has had a lifelong dream of playing professional roarball, and it’s scoffed at because he’s undersized, much like your character of Dru Joyce III in Shooting Stars. When was the last time you lived your own underdog story à la Will and Dru?

    I have moments like that, and they always motivate me to get better at what I’m doing. I’m always trying to prove to myself that I can be better than I was before. But an underdog moment that sticks out to me is when I auditioned for this movie as a kid. It ultimately came out, but they ended up taking out the scene I auditioned for at the time. I went out for this kid who was getting a pretzel at this pretzel stand or whatever, and I ended up getting the role. The audition process involved the lines and dancing; you had to know how to dance. 

    I then got the call that I landed the role. Let’s say the kid’s name was Gerald. I was eventually sitting in my dressing room, and then another kid walked into the same dressing room. It was a big dressing room. And I was like, “Oh, what are you doing here?” And he was like, “I got Gerald.” And I was like, “No, I’m Gerald.” The PA then came in and said, “Gerald?” And we both raised our hands. Then the PA was like, “Both of you guys can’t be Gerald.” So he looked at the call sheet and then he said to me, “Oh, he’s Gerald, and you’re … One second, I have to figure out what your role is. ” And I was like, “What the heck!?” 

    I then sat there for hours while the other kid was filming, and then they finally called me in. The director was like, “I’m so sorry I had you sitting there. We’re going to figure out how to put you in.” And then he was like, “Actually, I know what we need to do. Do the thing. Dance.” And I was like, “Whoa!” So I ended up dancing and pop-locking, but that was all I was called in to do.

    Afterwards, I remember going to the bathroom and crying and being like, “No, I came here for acting. I didn’t want to just dance.” Dancing is a part of my upbringing and my art. But I wanted to be an actor, and I felt like my acting was being put on the back burner. So I did feel like an underdog at that moment, and I said to myself, “I don’t want to ever feel like this again. I’m not going to let it happen.” There was growth in that moment. I got stronger and I got better because of that underdog situation.

    I honestly didn’t know until recently that you’re quite the dancer and acrobat. You actually remind me of Tom Holland in that you both can do these crazy spins and flips on flat ground. (They both performed on Lip Sync Battle as well.) Were you ever able to incorporate that skill during stunts on the show? 

    Not at all, actually. I wouldn’t say I did anything on the show where I was really utilizing that [acrobatic] skillI. I did some stunts in season one. I did the stunt where Eleven throws Lucas back with her powers. We also rode bikes, and I did a fighting scene in season four. Then there’s the scene where I’m running through the hospital with Sadie [Sink]. There was so much development in Lucas from previous seasons, and the challenge of the final season was to bring all of those past experiences into his current mindset.

    LeBron James produced Shooting Stars since it was based on his high school basketball team. Stephen Curry is a producer and voice actor on GOAT. Are you going to plead the Fifth if I ask you who the GOAT is between the two of them? 

    (Laughs.) I love both of them. LeBron is the greatest of all time, and the stats show it, right? Stephen Curry is a different player. He is actually in a lane unto himself. LeBron, you compare him to Jordan and Kobe. You can compare Steph to all the greatest point guards of all time, but Steph is in a lane of his own. He changed the game. He’s brought a new perspective to the game that no one has ever seen. He’s created his own timeline in his own multiverse. He broke the timeline of what it means to be a basketball player. 

    I personally enjoy watching both of them, but Stephen Curry was someone I leaned toward growing up. I love his playing style because I’m not the tallest guy on the court. I’m average height. But LeBron can play all five positions, and no one else can do that. Steph can’t do that, but Steph is whom I relate to the most. [Writer’s Note: McLaughlin’s character was partially inspired by Kobe Bryant during his high school days.]

    Who’s your GOAT in the entertainment industry? 

    It changes because depending on where I’m at in my life, but Donald Glover is probably my GOAT right now. He can do everything: acting, music, writing, directing. He can do it all, and no one else has been able to do it at his level. So it’s very admirable and inspiring.

    You got to work on SNL recently. What caught your attention about their process behind the scenes?

    What surprised me the most is how it feels like Broadway. It’s live and ongoing. There’s no stopping. If you mess up, you keep going. People don’t realize how smart you have to be to be funny in sketch comedy. The ideas are always changing, and these people work hard all week until the last second. They’ll even come up with concepts on the day, and it just reminded me of when I was performing on Broadway.

    You, Finn Wolfhard and Gaten Matarazzo had some fun with the “Conformity Gate” fan theory in front of the waterfalls. Was that a last-minute addition once that theory went viral? 

    To be honest with you, I have no idea. Finn reached out and said, “Can you come in the day before the show?” And I was like, “Sure.” I was going to fly out to see his SNL episode regardless because he asked all of us to come and support him, but they asked me to fly out earlier so that I could be a part of the segment. So I was like, “Yeah, I’m down. Just let me know what I need to do. ” But I couldn’t even tell you what the timing of it was because I was told all of these things at the last minute.

    What was your first reaction to that theory taking off?

    At first, I thought the “Conformity Gate” theory was dumb. I get that people want to live in this optimistic place of, “Oh, we want more Stranger Things,” but the show is done, guys. I was like, “Guys, it’s over. It’s been ten years. We were full-on kids and now we’re full-on adults, and we don’t need any more of us.” 

    The Duffers, our wonderful, amazing creators, wanted to leave everybody with this level of optimism that the show has always given everyone. So if they left the show without that, we would have left Stranger Things without the true essence of what we’ve been representing forever. 

    We started off season one playing Dungeons & Dragons, and we ended just like that. And Mike’s storytelling and writing ability [that’s rooted in D&D] is how the show should have ended. I think people missed the concept of what the show is when they were like “Oh, there’s going to be more.” No, that’s just Mike’s imagination. That’s who he’s always been, even in season one. It’s all just storytelling. 

    Sadie Sink believes that Eleven is dead and that Mike just created a story as a coping mechanism. It sounds like you’re of the same mind as her and that you don’t think El is living in some Icelandic cave.

    Yeah, she’s gone. I’m so sorry. I think she evaporated.

    Sadie Sink’s Max and Caleb McLaughlin’s Lucas in Stranger Things 5.

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    You played a teenager for a decade, but you were still growing up in between seasons. Are you glad that you can now be a 24-year-old and not have to worry about whether you look 17 anymore? 

    I mean, I will continue to play younger roles for as long as I look young. Right now, I do look pretty mature and older because of my hair style and how I’m presenting myself. But I’ve never had a problem with playing younger. I also had the freedom to be myself when I wasn’t filming. So it’s not something where I was like, “Oh, I’m so happy this is all over.” It was my childhood. It was like my high school and college experience. But all good things must come to an end, and it’s amazing the journey that I went through with these guys. I’ll never regret it. I’d do it all over again if I could.

    I think some of the fans would’ve cryogenically frozen you and your castmates between seasons if they could have. 

    I know! (Laughs.)

    I just always found the aging critique to be odd since it’s a show that asks you to believe in demogorgons and a mind flayer. Suspending disbelief about adolescent aging should be easy compared to that.

    Thank you for saying that. It’s so interesting because Joe Keery was older in season one than we were in season five. We weren’t even his age by the time we finished the show. He’s 33 now, and he played a teenager for how long? There’s a lot of people that are 30 and still play 17. So people just got so caught up in how young we looked in season one and didn’t realize that people age [off-camera]. 

    Gaten Matarazzo, Noah Schnapp, Caleb McLaughlin and Finn Wolfhard in Stranger Things season one.

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    Your Stranger Things director-producer Shawn Levy now has the keys to the MCU and Star Wars. How much campaigning did you guys do around him? 

    Deadpool & Wolverine was done by the time he came on set [in 2024], so we all saw the finishing touches. 

    But you knew he was doing Star Wars?

    Yeah, but I’m not that person. Unless he brings it up, I’m not going to talk about it. I might say, “Hey, how’s it going filming Star Wars?” But I’m not a person that really asks many questions depending on the scenario. I’m sorry, but I also haven’t watched Star Wars, so I didn’t really have much to ask.

    What do you mean you haven’t watched Star Wars

    (Laughs.) I know. I’ve only watched the one with John Boyega.

    He made three of them, so The Force Awakens

    Yeah, I only saw the first one. I haven’t seen all of them. So I didn’t even know what to ask Shawn, but I did ask a lot about Deadpool because I love Marvel.

    Are you not into space fantasy? 

    No, I just haven’t gotten around to a lot of classic movies yet. My very first time watching The Lord of the Rings was last year, and I’m not proud of this. This is not a flex. I also dislike it when people are like, “Oh, I’ve never seen that,” so I’m not trying to be that person. But I really just haven’t got around to Star Wars, and I’m getting around to it.

    Were movies not a big part of your household? 

    I have a big family that loves movies, but we’re not movie buffs. We still love watching movies and going to see a movie together as a family. The classics just weren’t forced upon us. They were never like, “You have to see this. ” My parents introduced me to Roots, Crooklyn and The Matrix. My dad introduced me to a lot of action films; he loves Ip Man. So we just had our own vibe.

    Your future is wide open now. If you could green light something for yourself, what would you choose? 

    I would just love to be in Marvel. I need to call Shawn up and say, “Hey, man, please put a good word in for me.”

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  • ‘Stranger Things’ Surprise Final Episode Doesn’t Exist: Here’s Why Fans Thought ‘Conformity Gate’ Was Real

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    Stranger Things” fans who believe a viral conspiracy theory that there is a secret ninth episode of the Netflix series dropping on Jan. 7 at 8 p.m. ET will have their post-series-finale hopes shattered — because there isn’t one.

    Though Netflix and creators Matt and Ross Duffer have made no official comment on the theory amid ongoing post-series-finale press interviews, the show’s bios on Netflix’s Instagram, TikTok and X accounts state as of Wednesday: “ALL EPISODES OF STRANGER THINGS ARE NOW PLAYING.”

    The theory, colloquially known across social media as “Conformity Gate,” is that the Duffers have another episode of the show still to come, one that would undo certain plot points from the series finale, including a reveal that Vecna/Henry (Jamie Campbell Bower) did not actually die and was controlling what viewers had seen as as the ending in a fourth-wall-breaking experience.

    Across social media, the theory gained steam on TikTok in particular, as well as Reddit and other platforms, where fans shared posts and videos including what they deemed to be hints that things were off in-universe in Episode 8, “The Right Side Up,” which launched as the much-heralded and well-promoted series finale Dec. 31 on Netflix.

    Among the purported “evidence” for the theory is everything from wardrobe choices (the graduation gowns were orange, when the Hawkins High colors are green and yellow, and many extras were seen wearing glasses similar to the kind worn by Henry/Vecna). They also point to set design changes: a doorknob in the Wheelers’ basement appears to be on the opposite side of the door in the finale, and a dial at the WSQK radio station had changed colors between episodes.

    Eagle-eyed viewers even found an instance in the series finale where a stack of cassette tapes featured in an epilogue scene were seemingly arranged to spell out “U DID NOT STOP ME” in Morse code.

    The idea that the episode was going to surprise drop on Jan. 7 was sparked by a video shared by the “Stranger Things” official TikTok page that featured Hawkins science teacher Mr. Clarke (Randy Havens) standing in front of a clock that is set to 1:07. The Conformity Gate crowd took that to mean the surprise Episode 9 would be released Jan. 7, and that the timing for launch would be 8 p.m. ET — the same time that Volumes 1 and 2 dropped.

    All of this has fueled the larger fan theory of Conformity Gate, which gets its name from the idea that Henry/Vecna was not defeated by Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown), Will (Noah Schnapp), Joyce (Winona Ryder), Mike (Finn Wolfhard) and the gang, and that the Hawkins crew is stuck under Vecna’s mind control, “conforming” to false memories and an ending that he has created for them — and for viewers.

    The final season of “Stranger Things” has been beset by conspiracy-minded thinking. After the release of Volume 2 on Christmas Day, a segment of the fandom began believing the episodes had been “tampered with,” and a Google doc created by fans detailing scenes that had allegedly been cut was widely shared across social media. A Change.org petition demanding the release of the “unseen footage” now has more than 390,000 signatures. In an interview with the Duffers on Jan. 1 about the series finale, they definitively shut down this disinformation, and Matt Duffer said about the Google doc, which they’d seen, “Obviously, that’s not a real thing.” Ross Duffer added, I don’t think there’s a single cut scene in the entire season.”

    “The show has just grown so massive,” Matt Duffer said, speaking generally about the conspiracy-theory-addled segments of the show’s fandom. “Online, there’s just so much misinformation. Just tons of it. We would be here for hours trying to bat down the stuff that was not true.”

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  • Some ‘Stranger Things’ Fans Have Built an Elaborate Delusion Around a Secret ‘True’ Finale

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    A group of Stranger Things fans are taking a page from the Snyder cut—or at least, wishing they could. In the week since the release of the eighth episode of Stranger Things 5, “The Rightside Up,” reactions have ranged from pure delight to utter disappointment. Some on the pessimistic side of the spectrum have come to believe the theory that a secret ninth episode would be released on January 7 that flips everything in the finale on its head. Well, that hasn’t happened and, obviously, is never going to happen.

    As with many online theories, this is a deep rabbit hole, but here are the basics. Some fans believe that clues both in the final episode and beyond point to the entire episode being one big illusion perpetrated by Vecna to convince everyone that he lost, when he actually hasn’t yet. A new finale, called “Conformity Gate,” will then be released that magically makes everyone who watches it super happy with all the choices. Some of these clues range from the time on a clock in a social media post, everyone at graduation having their hands folded, the length of a YouTube clip, and much, much more. (Those are but a few examples, but a quick search of the hashtag “#ConformityGate” on any social media platform is a good place to continue if you so desire.)

    And while some of the supposed clues do share similarities, such as references to the numbers “1” and “7” (the supposed date of release), logic really should take over here. Why would Netflix spend millions of dollars promoting a series finale being released on New Year’s Eve, put it in theaters, send its cast and crew out to talk about it, tout the viewership numbers, and release a behind-the-scenes documentary, only to undercut all that by releasing an unpromoted secret episode that was only discoverable by looking at TikTok clips? It literally doesn’t make one hint of sense.

    Now, is it fun to think about a secret version of something we love being released out of nowhere? Sure. We love a good surprise ending as much as the next person. And, as referenced earlier, in some instances, fans have demanded alternate, unreleased versions of things—like the Snyder cut—get released, and it’s worked.

    In reality though, much like Mike’s story about Eleven to his friends in the show’s closing moments, this is all just a coping mechanism. A way to put off the reality that Stranger Things ended how it ended, and everyone will just have to deal with it. All the clues and coincidences are exactly that.

    However, just to be 100% sure, io9 reached out to Netflix about this theory, and we were directed to the Stranger Things social bios, both of which currently read “ALL EPISODES OF STRANGER THINGS ARE NOW PLAYING.” Gate closed.

    Want more io9 news? Check out when to expect the latest Marvel, Star Wars, and Star Trek releases, what’s next for the DC Universe on film and TV, and everything you need to know about the future of Doctor Who.

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  • Decoding Stranger Things 5’s Most Notable Pop-Culture Nods

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    From the start, Stranger Things has freely referenced elements of ’80s pop culture. Sometimes they’re simply used to establish where the series is in time. (If Mike’s singing Corey Hart’s “Never Surrender,” it must be 1985.) But sometimes they play a central role in the action, as with Max’s deep connection to Kate Bush, or they reflect and comment upon the events of the series. When the Hawkins boys dress up like little Ghostbusters, for instance, they may not realize they’re essentially playing similar roles in their own lives, but we do. And of course, Dungeons & Dragons has long served as a guiding force both for the characters and the show itself.

    As the fifth and final season of Stranger Things kicks off, dark times have returned to Hawkins, Indiana. Darker than usual, even: After the explosive conclusion of Stranger Things 4, the town has (kind of understandably) been placed under quarantine. That doesn’t mean it has been totally cut off from the outside world, however. From its fashion to its snacks to its movie references, Hawkins remains very much a part of the 1980s, though older pop-culture items have played a more prominent role so far this season. Set in the fall of 1987, Stranger Things 5 leaps forward over a year in time from the end of Stranger Things 4, and while that’s not a huge jump, the new episodes contain plenty of references specific to that year alongside some golden oldies. To help parse which are simply of-the-moment Easter eggs and which may be this season’s “Running Up That Hill,” here’s an episode-by-episode guide (featuring lots of spoilers) to the pop culture that’s keeping our Hawkins crew connected to their right side up world.

    Linda Hamilton As Dr. Kay
    Starting with Winona Ryder, Stranger Things has made a habit of casting ’8os stars, often to play parts that contrast with the roles that made them famous. The quintessential late-’80s teen, Ryder here plays a fretful mom. A heartless scumbag in Aliens, Paul Reiser showed up as a sympathetic scientist. And so on. The casting of Linda Hamilton continues that trend. In the Terminator films, Hamilton played heroine Sarah Connor, a damsel in distress who becomes a hard-ass warrior. We haven’t yet seen enough of Dr. Kay to make any definitive judgment about the character, but she doesn’t seem eager to help the Stranger Things heroes. In fact, she appears to be the driving force behind all the reckless tampering being done to the Upside Down. Sarah Connor would almost certainly not approve.

    A Wrinkle in Time / Mr. Whatsit
    Madeleine L’Engle’s classic 1962 science-fiction-fantasy novel was rarely cited alongside Steven Spielberg, Stephen King, and others as a source of inspiration for Stranger Things until the Duffer Brothers dropped a pretty unmissable hint by titling this season’s forthcoming sixth episode “Escape From Camazotz,” a reference to a planet that plays a key role in the book. (Holly makes the connection even more clear in the fourth episode.) But the hints have been there all along: mysterious disappearances, travels through the fabric of space-time, dark forces that must be defeated by a family of heroes. The L’Engle influence is hard to miss once you start looking for it. Later, we learn Holly has named her imaginary friend — or more accurately, “imaginary” “friend” — Mr. Whatsit after Mrs. Whatsit, one of three mysterious figures who play key roles in the novel. (If you know only the 2018 Ava DuVernay film, she’s played by Reese Witherspoon.) Holly’s paperback edition was first published in 1976, and its striking cover will be instantly recognizable to readers of her generation. Yet the artist behind it remained a mystery until a few years ago when the Boston public-radio station WBUR’s Endless Thread, with the help of Adam Rowe, author of the Retro Sci-Fi Art newsletter, identified it as the work of prolific commercial artist Richard Bober.

    The Fall
    John Coltrane, A Love Supreme
    Jonathan Byers’s love of punk and alternative music has factored into the series from the first episode. That he’s wearing a Fall T-shirt suggests he hasn’t lost his taste for the cutting edge. Formed in 1976 and hailing from Manchester, England, the Fall was essentially singer Mark E. Smith and whoever was playing with him at any given moment, though some lineups lasted longer than others over the group’s 42-year existence. While often lumped in with punk, the Fall experimented with multiple styles over the years, with Smith’s biting wit and inimitable delivery serving as constants. If Jonathan likes the Fall’s willingness to experiment and push beyond long-established musical boundaries, Murray is correct in suspecting he’ll love John Coltrane’s A Love Supreme, the 1965 release that was the saxophonist’s crowning accomplishment (though most editions do not include the bonus material revealed in the show’s third episode).

    Robin’s “Beam Me Up, This Place Sucks!” Sweatshirt
    Robin’s shirt is, of course, a reference to Star Trek, a ’60s show that was still very much in the conversation throughout the 1980s thanks to syndicated reruns; a film series (whose then-most-recent outing, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, premiered in the summer of 1986); and Star Trek: The Next Generation, which debuted just a few weeks before the events of this episode. Robin’s being a fan makes perfect sense, as does this sarcastic shirt. Its design seems original to Stranger Things (you can even buy your own in the Netflix store), but variations like “Beam me up, Scotty. There’s no intelligent life down here!” have commonly been found on unlicensed merchandise for decades.

    The Psychedelic Furs, “Pretty in Pink”
    Michael Jackson, “Rockin’ Robin”
    The Clash, “Should I Stay or Should I Go”
    Kate Bush, “Running Up That Hill”
    Diana Ross, “Upside Down”
    Is WSQK an oldies station? Despite being staffed by high-school students and recent grads, Hawkins’s local doesn’t seem too interested in playing the hits of the day. The Psychedelic Furs’ “Pretty in Pink” is the most recent song on its playlist (at least that we hear). Recorded in 1981, it got a second life when John Hughes borrowed both the title and a newly rerecorded version of the song for his 1986 film of the same name. This helps explain why Robin sends it out to her sweetheart, Vickie (Amybeth McNulty), and why Vickie is styled to resemble Molly Ringwald.

    Robin also plays Michael Jackson’s 1972 cover of “Rockin’ Robin,” a hit for singer Bobby Day in 1958. The track provides both Robin’s DJ name and her theme song, though she’s not the first Stranger Things character to get a song of their own. The opening scene serves as a reminder of the role played by the Clash’s “Should I Stay or Should I Go” in the lives of the Byers boys, and Lucas’s bedside vigil for Max finds him playing Kate Bush’s “Running Up That Hill” on repeat. (It’s a great song, but isn’t it possible that even those in a coma could get sick of hearing it after a while?)

    Finally, Stranger Things probably deserves some credit for waiting this long to feature Diana Ross’s “Upside Down,” a last-days-of-disco hit written by Chic’s Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards that topped the charts in September 1980 and soundtracks the closing credits of this episode. It came out after Ross starred 1978’s The Wiz, Sidney Lumet’s film version of the Broadway musical that transplanted The Wizard of Oz to an urban setting. Robin is correct in calling the movie a “flop-a-rooni”; Hollywood used its dismal box-office performance to dramatically dial back the production of films with Black talent for years. But The Wiz wasn’t Ross’s first big-screen venture. She’d previously starred in the Billie Holiday biopic Lady Sings the Blues and the 1975 drama Mahogany.

    Lucas’s Hi-Top Fade
    In case you’d forgotten the Stranger Things timeline has moved into the late 1980s, check out Lucas’s hair. He was a little ahead of the curve last season when he started sporting the short-on-the-sides, tall-on-top hairstyle synonymous with late-’80s hip-hop and is still something of an early adopter in 1987 — the style’s high-water mark was 1988, when it figured prominently in music videos by, among others, Big Daddy Kane and Kid ’N Play (though as a budding basketball star, Lucas might also have been looking to the late-’80s NBA for inspiration). It’s a bold choice but one that makes sense: The events of Stranger Things have emboldened our heroes to stop caring what everyone else thinks and to be themselves, some by antagonizing bullies, others by trying on mold-breaking new looks.

    Coca-Cola Classic
    In 1985, the Coca-Cola Company introduced a new formula that proved famously unpopular. “New Coke” figured into Stranger Things’s third season (which inspired a brief revival), but it took only three months in real life for the old Coke to return as the rebranded Coca-Cola Classic, the name seen on the can in this episode.

    Jake the Snake
    The season premiere introduces an ill-fated snake named Jake. While it’s possible that he’s just called Jake because the name rhymes with snake, it seems highly likely that Jake is named for Jake “the Snake” Roberts, a wrestler then enjoying his first wave of popularity after making a splashy WWF debut in 1986. As his nickname suggests, Roberts made a trademark of bringing snakes to his matches. Though retired as a performer, Roberts remains active in the wrestling world despite a series of health problems.

    Rainbow Brite
    Holly’s room is filled with items designed to appeal to ’80s girls, including images of the Care Bears and a poster for Don Bluth’s 1986 animated feature An American Tail. That Holly also likes Rainbow Brite, a Hallmark-created franchise that debuted in 1984, doesn’t seem especially surprising or even all that relevant. But hold on a second: What’s the premise of Rainbow Brite, again? As depicted in the animated 1984 prime-time special Peril in the Pits, it concerns a cheerful, colorfully attired girl named Rainbow Brite whose adventures take her to a dark underground land called “the Pits” (a place where things are kind of upside down, if you will). Is this foreshadowing? Is there any chance Holly will befriend a flying horse this season?

    ABBA, “Fernando”
    ABBA’s 1976 hit, which plays as the Demogorgon invades the Wheeler house, recounts a conversation between two aging revolutionaries as they recall a decisive battle. It doesn’t take a lot of effort to connect its lyrics to the events of Stranger Things 5, which has already started to feel like Hawkins’s Last Stand. But that’s in the song’s English- and Spanish-language versions: The original Swedish lyrics are about a lovelorn guy named Fernando. Since ABBA is sort of active again, maybe the group can rework the words once more for the show. Can you hear the Eggos, El-ando? That doesn’t quite work, does it?

    Peanut Butter Boppers
    Gone but not forgotten, these lunchbox-friendly snacks were essentially globs of peanut butter rolled into tubes and surrounded by candy. (Its crunchy-on-the-outside, gooey-on-the-inside structure will later provide a crucial bit of inspiration for Steve.) Yet because they were marketed as wholesome snacks by Nature Valley, they didn’t seem like junk food despite varieties with names like Fudge Chip and Cookie Crunch. Though an immediate hit, Peanut Butter Boppers didn’t survive past the ’80s, though Nature Valley’s site includes a recipe that empowers nostalgic snackers to make their own. Their inclusion here doubles as an homage to Joel Schumacher’s 1987 film The Lost Boys, in which they also make an appearance.

    Flux Capacitor
    To work a scheme of their own, Robin and Will exploit Joyce having been too busy for the past few years repeatedly saving her family/the world from the dark forces of the Upside Down to take the time to watch the 1985 blockbuster Back to the Future. Come on, Joyce. Priorities! Thankfully, she still has two years to catch up before the release of Back to the Future Part II in 1989, and though we’ve yet to see it this season, Hawkins’s Family Video is presumably still in operation. In fact, the chain hung in there longer than most video stores. It was ultimately undone by the COVID-19 lockdown and shuttered its last outpost in 2021.

    Lowrey’s Beef Jerky
    These days, beef jerky mostly comes in plastic bags, but it wasn’t always so, as Hopper’s can of Upside Down survival snacks reminds us. Though less ubiquitous now than in 1987, Lowrey’s still sells jerky in cylindrical packages that resemble those used for tennis balls, though the packaging has changed.

    Play-Doh Creepies
    Despite the name, there’s nothing particularly creepy about Play-Doh Creepies. The sets provided molds kids could use to create little reptilelike animals (or, as the packaging dubbed them, “colorful critters”). Still, the inclusion of Creepies may not be accidental — we don’t yet know what Dr. Kay is up to, and we’ve certainly seen the Upside Down spit out its fair share of weird beasts over the years.

    Tiffany, “I Think We’re Alone Now”
    Holly wasn’t alone in loving Tiffany in 1987. Born Tiffany Darwish in Norwalk, California, Tiffany attempted to break into country music and appeared on Star Search before recording her eponymous first album at the age of 14. Released in June 1987, Tiffany’s first single, “Danny,” stiffed, but the unusual gambit of touring shopping malls from coast to coast helped turn the album’s second single into an inescapable hit. A cover of Tommy James and the Shondells’s 1967 hit “I Think We’re Alone Now” made Tiffany a star thanks in part to a squeaky-clean, parent-friendly image that offset the song’s slightly naughty lyrics. (Though in this context, lines like “There doesn’t seem to be anyone around” take on a more sinister cast.) Changing tastes, legal squabbles, and the poorly received 1989 follow-up, Hold an Old Friend’s Hand, made Tiffany’s moment at the top short-lived, but she’s still hanging in there, continuing to record and tour while taking the occasional acting role and reality-show appearance.

    David Bowie’s READ Poster
    In 1985, the American Library Association kicked off its popular ongoing Celebrity READ Campaign, a series of posters featuring famous faces encouraging kids (and everyone else) to read books. The first READ poster featured Bill Cosby, but Stranger Things has opted to spotlight a less problematic star: David Bowie. Issued in 1987, the poster finds a barefoot Bowie dressed in a letterman jacket and reading Fyodor Dostoevsky’s The Idiot. Bowie was an avid reader and his list of 100 favorite books features an eclectic mix of fiction and nonfiction including everyone from Dante to Fran Lebowitz. Dostoevsky, however, didn’t make the cut.

    Garbage Pail Kids
    G.I. Joe
    Pee-wee’s Big Adventure
    Masters of the Universe
    Transformers
    Derek Turnbow’s room doubles as a dumping ground of ’80s pop-culture items — it’s almost as if the show’s production designers used it to squeeze in all the references that wouldn’t fit into the rest of the show. Or maybe it’s not; maybe every item could reflect another aspect of the series. What are the wildly popular, controversially tasteless Garbage Pail Kids if not Cabbage Patch Kids from the Upside Down? Who are our heroes if not scrappy G.I. Joes standing up to Vecna’s Cobra Commander? (The key role played by Derek’s G.I. Joe lunchbox in the fourth episode only underlines this.) Along with G.I. Joe, both Transformers and Masters of the Universe were media properties that began as toy lines; like Holly’s beloved Care Bears and Rainbow Brite, they benefited from Reagan-era deregulation of the FTC that allowed the once-solid boundaries between programming and advertising to get extremely blurry. The Pee-wee’s Big Adventure poster suggests Derek has good taste but also brings to mind Pee-wee’s rival, Francis (Mark Holton), another rich boy with all the toys money can buy.

    Ghosts ’n Goblins
    Hang-On
    Derek’s room also includes an abundance of video games. He can be seen enjoying Ghosts ’n Goblins, the first entry in an ongoing franchise in which characters in a fantasy kingdom have to defeat a variety of, well, ghosts ’n goblins (and other foes). One lucky (or spoiled, depending on your outlook) first-generation gamer, Derek even has a full-size arcade game in his room: Hang-On, a 1985 racing game from Sega. Notable for its 16-bit graphics, it was part of the first wave of titles that would help the industry recover from its 1983 downturn.

    A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
    The gang’s booby-trapping of the Turnbow house may at first seem like an anachronistic homage to Home Alone, which wouldn’t hit theaters for another three years. It’s not: Stranger Things has been laying the groundwork for this moment from the start by dubbing one of its heroines Nancy, a name she shares with the protagonist of Wes Craven’s A Nightmare on Elm Street. Stranger Things owes quite a bit to Craven’s film, a debt the show tacitly acknowledged by bringing in Robert Englund, who originated the role of the dream-invading serial killer Freddy Krueger, for a part in the fourth season. In the film, Nancy outwits Krueger by drawing him into the real world, where he encounters a series of obstacles she learned to make after checking out a book titled Booby Traps & Improvised Anti-Personnel Devices from the local library. (Bowie would undoubtedly have approved.)

    Tom Waits
    As an experienced Midwesterner, Robin knows to dress in layers when the seasons change, so beneath her Star Trek–inspired sweatshirt she sports a Tom Waits tee. Waits had been around since the early ’70s and quickly won fans with his Beat-inspired songs of life on the scuzzy side delivered in a raspy voice. In the ’80s, Waits started to take his music in a more experimental direction with a string of classic albums that included Swordfishtrombones, Rain Dogs, and, in the Stranger Things 5 year of 1987, Frank’s Wild Years. Robin seems like she’d be a big Tom Waits fan. In real life, Maya Hawke’s co-star Winona Ryder is a big Waits fan, even wearing her own T-shirt featuring him for her recent Hot Ones appearance.

    The Sword in the Stone
    Not expecting the military police to show up and take their daughter away, the Miller family is enjoying a quiet night watching The Sword in the Stone, a 1963 Disney film that had just hit home video in 1986. One of its most famous scenes is a duel between two wizards, which seems relevant to this episode’s climactic moments.

    Walden Two, by B.F. Skinner
    Max’s cave refuge contains a variety of knickknacks assembled seemingly at random and a copy of Walden Two, a science-fiction novel in which the psychologist B.F. Skinner depicted his idea of a utopian community. This seems to be there mostly to confirm, as she insists to Holly, that Max is living in a prison. Nobody reads Walden Two by choice.

    The Chords, “Sh-Boom (Life Could Be a Dream)”
    Max begins her tour of 1959 Hawkins accompanied by the Chords’ 1954 doo-wop hit “Sh-Boom.” Like most doo-wop classics, it serves as easy shorthand to say, “Hey, it’s the 1950s!” But the whole “Life could be a dream” element takes on added meaning given Max’s current situation.

    The Great Escape 
    Not only does Robin have great taste in music, her knowledge of classic film allows her to help dream up a plan to rescue Hawkins’s imprisoned children. (All that time in the video store apparently paid off.) Released in 1963, the John Sturges–directed The Great Escape features a star-studded cast led by Steve McQueen that includes James Garner, Richard Attenborough, James Coburn, and Donald Pleasence. They play inmates of a World War II P.O.W. camp who hatch an elaborate breakout plan involving, as Robin describes it, a system of tunnels. To drive the point home, this episode’s soundtrack features a snippet from Elmer Bernstein’s catchy theme song.


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  • ‘Stranger Things’ Lets It Rip to Kick Off Its Final Season

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    The conclusion to Netflix and the Duffer Brothers’ pop culture phenomenon Stranger Things begins with an epic first volume that’s now streaming for your binging pleasure.

    Action and horror propel the return to Hawkins in volume one as our heroes race to find Vecna (Jamie Campbell Bower), hoping to vanquish him once and for all. In the time since the Upside Down ripped open in season four, Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown) has been training with Hopper (David Harbour) to strengthen her powers. Seeing Eleven’s growth into a strong as hell young woman from her early days throwing bullies off her friends is such a joy. Clearly, that’s thanks to Eggo waffles.

    Meanwhile, the non-superpowered, led by Nancy (Natalia Dyer) and Joyce (Winona Ryder), unite in pursuit of Vecna. This time around their HQ moves out of the Wheeler basement and into the town radio station operated by Robin (Maya Hawke) and Steve (Joe Keery), who use their show, “The Squawk,” to relay secret messages through the station’s needle drops and otherwise government-sanctioned yapping.

    It’s a delight to see Hawkins’ heroes use the resources available to them to not just prepare for battle against the Upside Down but also to evade the martial law stronghold on their town. Everyone in the cast shines with their skills we’ve seen develop over the past few seasons, and everyone gets a standout moment as the anti-Vecna campaign builds.

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    Dustin (Gaten Matarazzo) uses radio signals to hack into the lines being used by the government base in the Upside Down, guiding Hopper’s clandestine search for Vecna with the help of Steve’s van, which has been transformed into a mobile radio station. Mike (Finn Wolfhard), Lucas (Caleb McLaughlin), Erica (Priah Ferguson), and Will (Noah Schapp) also support using the web of tools from the station; it’s almost as if the town has become a real D&D table to play on, which is a really clever payoff to how it all began with the kids in the basement. All of this moves the action at a breakneck pace and is matched by the horrors of the Upside Down that are intent on preying on Hawkins.

    The Demogorgons are back, and Vecna’s foot soldiers begin to collect children for his mysterious new plan by ripping through anything and anyone that stands in their way. The threat gets too real when Holly Wheeler (now played by Nell Fisher) is lured by Vecna, appearing with his normal Henry face to warn her the monsters are coming, and it’s so creepy to see Bower play up his charms, which are very Mister Rogers meets Freddy Krueger. It’s an awesome concept that really digs into that Amblin kid adventure feel but also dips into an ’80s horror tone, harkening back to early Wes Craven and John Carpenter.

    The frights feel real, and the situations are horrific with no holds barred. When the Demogorgons come to collect Holly at the Wheeler house, it’s a bloodbath and a declaration of war against Nancy and the gang’s efforts to catch Vecna.

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    And that’s just the Upside Down threat; the government is also there to make things difficult for everyone. It’s still after Eleven, who’s being painted as the fall guy for the horrors. She can’t show her face in Hawkins; officials are combing the town for her to take her to the base now run by Dr. Kay (Linda Hamilton). The iconic ’80s action heroine is a stone-cold baddie, and frankly we’d be okay with her taking us captive any day.

    Kidding—sort of—but her presence here is very welcome. The Duffer Brothers enlisting Hamilton as their final season antagonist is so inspired, and while she’s not in volume one as much as we’d hoped, Dr. Kay really gets established as the main obstacle to finding Vecna first. The government seems to be picking up where Dr. Brenner left off, and the motivations behind the search for Eleven suddenly become clearer. It’s such a powerful message that really speaks to the overarching themes of how we only have our communities to count on for our protection, because, well, those in power might just be seeking more dangerous ways to try and further their control.

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    The Duffers and producer Shawn Levy have enlisted some great filmmakers for this season to really capture the cinematic scope of Stranger Things for its final outing. Frank Darabont’s work on the show this season is primed to be some all-time great television, and the Duffers’ feature-length closer to the first drop of episodes really raises the stakes.

    But it’s really the relationships that solidify Stranger Things as a true pop culture beast. The younger cast has grown up before our eyes, and the power of their love for one another has helped make the show one of the most compelling sagas of this generation. We want to see everyone Eleven cares about be okay, but we also know things can’t be wrapped up neatly if Vecna has his way. Imagining the horrors that could potentially befall Steve’s pretty head (not to mention his co-pilot, Dustin) feels just as stressful as ever. But the core friendship between Will, Mike, Lucas, and Dustin is what really ties Stranger Things together, and we can’t wait to see how their campaign against the Upside Down ends.

    Stranger Things 5 Volume One is now streaming on Netflix. The remaining episodes arrive December 25 and 31.

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  • The 4 ‘Stranger Things’ Episodes the Duffers Suggest You Rewatch

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    It’s been a long, long wait, but the fifth and final season of Stranger Things is almost here. Stranger Things season five debuts on Wednesday evening with four episodes making up the first of three parts of the show’s big finale. And, if you’re like us, you’ve been preparing for months. We’ve been recapping all four seasons of Stranger Things, going back to July. But, if you haven’t been quite as on top of things, the Duffer Brothers are here to help.

    The Duffers are the creators of Stranger Things, and in a new interview with the Hollywood Reporter, they have given the four key episodes they think fans should rewatch before season five. If, of course, you can’t just watch everything. “If you’re going to rewatch anything, I would definitely rewatch those early seasons because it really is about tying [everything] back to seasons one and two,” Ross Duffer said. “[Those] are the seasons we referenced the most, because we really wanted this to be circular and to come full circle. There are a lot of mysteries we set up and then intentionally did not answer in those early seasons.”

    But if you can’t watch even the first two seasons in the next 48 hours or so, here are the four episodes the Duffers recommend:

    • “Will the Wise” from Stranger Things 2, episode four
    • “The Spy,” also from Stranger Things 2, episode six
    • “The Massacre at Hawkins Lab” from Stranger Things 4, episode seven
    • “The Piggyback” from Stranger Things 4, episode nine

    That last one, being the most recent episode, is the only one that we can understand without even asking. As for the others?

    “Season two is when we really started to build out the mythology and started to dive into everything, and how this was going to be an ongoing [series],” Matt Duffer said. “That’s where we started to really plant the seeds for the mythology, and I think probably that’s why that is as relevant as it is. Season four is also highly relevant—’Massacre at Hawkins Lab’ is a good one.”

    “That [episode] starts unveiling some of the Upside Down mythology and starts giving some answers, and, of course, all the stuff with Henry (Jamie Campbell Bower) and Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown) continues to resonate throughout season five,” Ross Duffer added. “Those are some good ones to revisit.”

    If you want to rewatch those episodes, head over to Netflix and do that. You can also read our recaps for season one, season two, season three, and season four here.

    Stranger Things 5: Part One debuts at 8 p.m. ET on November 26. Part Two arrives on December 25, and the finale hits on December 31.

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  • ‘Nobody Wants This’ Season 2 Remains Atop Netflix Weekly TV Rankings; ‘The Witcher’ Viewership Declines As ‘Stranger Things’ Creeps Back Onto Charts

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    Turns out, a lot of people want Nobody Wants This.

    Season 2 put up another 9.4M views in its first full week on Netflix, from October 27 through November 2, placing it in first among English-language TV. Viewers were also revisiting Season 1 last week, boosting it to No. 7 on the weekly rankings with 2.4M views.

    The Season 2 performance is slightly down from the first season, which was at around 26M views through its first 11 days. The second season is currently sitting at around 18M for that same interval, which is still strong despite the notable drop off.

    The Witcher came in at No. 2 on the English TV rankings with 7.4M views for Season 4’s opening weekend. The latest eight episodes, which landed on Netflix on October 30, introduce Liam Hemsworth as Geralt of Rivia, taking over from Henry Cavill. It’s worth noting that this is a sharp decline from Season 3’s 15.2M views in the first four days of release.

    Third place on the weekly rankings went to Season 9 of Selling Sunset with 4.2M views, while Boots continued to perform well with 3.7M views, good enough for fourth place.

    Although new episodes of Stranger Things won’t debut until the end of the month, audiences are already preparing, it seems. Season 1 snagged tenth place on the English TV charts with 1.8M views. It’s likely that this trend will continue as the premiere date for Stranger Things 5 Vol. 1 nears.

    Netflix’s most-watched TV show of the week was actually a Danish thriller, The Asset, which debuted atop the non-English TV charts with 11.3M views.

    On the film side of things, Kathryn Bigelow’s A House of Dynamite took No. 1 again with 31.6M views, a jump from the just over 22M views it managed in its first three days.

    Judging by the amount of HUNTR/X costumes on Halloween, no one will be surprised to learn that the hugely popular animated film Kpop Demon Hunters is still putting up monster numbers. It came in second place among English films last week with another 14M views, marking its 20th week in the Top 10.

    Morbid curiosity continued last week with two serial-killer related offerings among the Top 10. In films, the documentary Aileen: Queen of the Serial Killers, about Aileen Wuornos, a rare woman serial killer who murdered seven men between 1989 and 1990, came in at No. 3 with 10.1M views. Among series, Monster: The Ed Gein Story hung onto sixth place with 2.8M views.

    Also in film the Colin Farrell and Tilda Swinton-starrer Ballad of a Small Player debuted at No. 4 with 6.9M views.

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  • Will Stranger Things 5 Flip the Script Upside Down?

    Will Stranger Things 5 Flip the Script Upside Down?

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    When she first started shooting Stranger Things, Millie Bobby Brown was 10 years old playing Eleven. The 20-year-old actress is now married (into the House of Bon Jovi, no less), and the fifth and final season of the Netflix show still hasn’t dropped. The long wait isn’t because the Duffer brothers couldn’t figure out how to wrap up all the loose ends — in fact, the series creators told Variety in 2022 that fans shouldn’t expect to wait another three years since they already had an initial outline for the last installment of the show. But it was one of many projects across the industry that faced unexpected delays due to the double Hollywood strikes in 2023. Filming finally started on January 8, 2024.

    Finn Wolfhard recently hinted to Us Weekly that season five is “huge” and contains “a lot of action sequences,” and other cast members have similarly talked up the scale of what we can expect. Here’s everything we know, including which familiar and new faces are in the cast, what details we’ve gotten about the “full circle” plot, and whether there’s a release date yet.

    Not yet. But on July 15, Netflix celebrated Stranger Things 5 hitting the halfway point of filming by giving us a glimpse of the cast in costume on set in a behind-the-scenes video. We’re assured that the wait will be “100%” worth it and that season five feels even bigger than season four. It’s not like they could say it’ll be a letdown that feels smaller, but we’ll take it.

    The majority of the cast. If you need proof, check the black-and-white photo Netflix shared to mark the start of production in January. Millie Bobby Brown, Finn Wolfhard, Noah Schnapp, Gaten Matarazzo, Caleb McLaughlin, Sadie Sink, Maya Hawke, Jamie Campbell Bower, David Harbour, Winona Ryder, Joe Keery, Amybeth McNulty, Charlie Heaton, Brett Gelman, Natalia Dyer, and Priah Ferguson are all pictured.

    Joseph Quinn is notably not in the shot, but he seemingly hasn’t ruled out the possibility of returning. “Nothing’s impossible,” he told The Hollwyood Reporter when asked in June 2024 about popping up in season five. “I don’t know,” he added, pointing out that he might have a “sly smile” on his face.

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    Four of ‘em so far, yup. Netflix announced in 2023 that Linda Hamilton would be the latest ‘80s icon to star in the ‘80s-set show. In July 2024, Netflix confirmed that Nell Fisher, Jake Connelly, and Alex Breaux are also playing new characters.

    Matt Duffer told The Guardian in 2023 that season five will be like season one “on steroids.” As you might recall, by the end of season four, Vecna got the Upside Down to start bleeding into Hawkins. With the gang all back in town, Matt said that we can expect to see Eleven and the boys interacting more like they did when we first met them. Ross Duffer also suggested to Collider in 2022 that the final installment will be “coming full circle back to season one.” He added that he expects that to happen with several character arcs, including Will, whom Matt identified as “a big part and focus” of the final season. “We’re starting to see his coming of age, really,” Matt explained. “Which has been challenging for a number of reasons, some of which are supernatural. But you’re starting to see him come into his own.”

    Meanwhile, if you’ve still got burning questions about the Upside Down, you’re in luck. The Duffers previously told Tudum that they wrote 25 pages about the mysterious dimension’s mythology during season one. The duo teased during Geeked Week in 2022 that questions answered by that lore document will translate to “big reveals” that are “really going to affect what season five is about.” (So perhaps it’s not surprising that Matt previously confirmed to Collider in 2022 that this season will primarily take place in Hawkins and the Upside Down.)

    Oh, and yes, we’re getting a time jump. Was there ever any doubt?

    It’s not a full press tour yet, but we’ve been getting little details in interviews throughout the year. Finn Wolfhard told Us Weekly on November 1 that season five will include “a lot of action sequences.” According to Wolfhard, the season will be “intimate,” but also “huge” in scale — a contrast he’s also teased in other interviews. He also echoed the Duffers’s full-circle comments by telling The Hollywood Reporter in March that the show is returning to “a lot of the dynamics of season one,” including some “leader Mike” moments.

    During a Happy Sad Confused podcast live special in October, David Harbour said that as someone who can be “very critical” of Stranger Things, he thinks the season five finale is the best episode of the entire series. He added that cast members started crying halfway through the table read for it. “Then about the last 20 minutes, it was just uncontrollably crying, waves of different people. Noah Schnapp being my favorite,” he said.

    In June, Jamie Campbell Bower reflected on iHeart’s I’ve Never Said This Before podcast that while he found season four’s plot easy to follow, he struggled to keep up with what was happening this time. “If you thought last season was nuts, this season is just out of control, wild, like, it’s bonkers. It really, really is,” he said, per The Hollywood Reporter. “It’s bigger. It’s just completely insane. It’s completely insane.”

    Meanwhile, Joe Keery said in February on The Movie Dweeb podcast that “good, good things” will happen for Steve.

    Eight, which Maya Hawke described to Podcrushed in July as “basically, eight movies.” If that wasn’t clear enough, she added, “The episodes are very long.” That seems to align with Matt Duffer’s July 2022 appearance on the Happy Sad Confused podcast, when he said he expected the season-five finale to have a runtime of at least two hours, per The Wrap.

    For now, Stranger Things has shared the first couple lines of the script for the first episode, which already has a confirmed title: “The Crawl.”

    As of publication time, no and no. If July was a true halfway point in filming, then it seems like shooting could wrap in January 2026. But there’s also post-production time to consider after that. As soon as we hear any official confirmation, we’ll come running up the hill to update this post.

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  • ‘Stranger Things’ Season 5’s First Episode Now Has An Official Title

    ‘Stranger Things’ Season 5’s First Episode Now Has An Official Title

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    On November 6, 1983 , Will Byers went missing in Hawkins, Indiana. The boy simply vanished. His friends were mystified. His mother in a panic. Nobody knew where Will had gone, and many suspected the worse. What nobody expected was that the boy had been taken by a monstrous Demogorgon into a mysterious and terrifying alternative plane called the Upside Down.

    That date has since become Stranger Things Day, and on Stranger Things Day you can usually expect a tidbit of new information about the show, or some other fan service.

    I completely forgot that yesterday was Stranger Things Day, so I’m a bit late to this news, but even if it’s just a tiny tidbit of new info about the next season, it’s still fun.

    The first episode of Stranger Things 5 finally has an episode title, and it raises some interesting questions and inevitably will lead to plenty of fan theories and speculation.

    The official Stranger Things Twitter account shared a picture of the first page of the screenplay for the very first episode of the show:

    Chapter One: The Crawl, written by the Duffer Brothers, is the somewhat ominous sounding title for the Season 5 premiere.

    Fans are speculating that the ‘crawl’ refers to dungeon-crawling, which you often do in Dungeons & Dragons and other roleplaying games. In D&D, a dungeon crawl is where a band of adventurers heads down into some kind of cave or maze or dungeon and fights monsters and solves puzzles and springs traps and eventually fights some kind of boss before escaping with whatever loot and treasure they found along the way.

    Of course, all the best titles for TV shows have a double (or triple!) meaning, and this could be the case with Stranger Things as well. Granted, many of the show’s past episode titles have been pretty straightforward (not much to glean from The Hellfire Club other than it’s the name of the D&D club Eddie ran—RIP—and the name of Stranger Things 4’s opening episode).

    If this is about a dungeon crawl, we could see our heroes return to The Upside Down in the very first episode of the show, which the show’s creators say “is more really like Part 2 of Season 4.” That makes sense. There can’t really be a time-jump as some speculated, because the demonic world is spilling over into the real world in the Season 4 finale.

    Filming of Stranger Things 5 begins in 2023, so you can add it to the list of shows—from House of the Dragon to Rings Of Power—not returning until at least 2024.

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    Erik Kain, Senior Contributor

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  • Millie Bobby Brown Reveals Why She’s Scared To Begin Filming ‘Stranger Things 5’ Following ‘Enola Holmes 2’ 

    Millie Bobby Brown Reveals Why She’s Scared To Begin Filming ‘Stranger Things 5’ Following ‘Enola Holmes 2’ 

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    By Melissa Romualdi.

    Millie Bobby Brown explained why she is afraid to return to the set of “Stranger Things” for the fifth and final season.

    During a Q&A session at the New York City premiere of “Enola Holmes 2”, which Brown stars in, the actress revealed that her “deep-rooted fear” actually stems from her titular character in the film.


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    Brown’s character, Enola, who is the younger sister of the famous fictional detective, Sherlock Holmes (Henry Cavill), often breaks the fourth wall to talk to the audience, which she told Today, feels like “vlogging on YouTube all day long.”

    “While filming, I had a dream that I was on the set of ‘Stranger Things’, and I couldn’t stop looking at the camera,” she explained. “And now, I have this deep-rooted fear that now I will never stop looking at the camera. So now, I’m so obsessed with it.”


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    Brown, who found fame on the beloved Netflix mystery series, still has time to hopefully get over her fear as the streamer previously revealed that “Stranger Things 5” is expected to begin shooting in 2023.

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    Melissa Romualdi

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