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  • Phillies injury updates: When will Bryce Harper, Kyle Schwarber, J.T. Realmuto and others return?

    Phillies injury updates: When will Bryce Harper, Kyle Schwarber, J.T. Realmuto and others return?

    The Phillies didn’t fly to Chicago without their rehabbing sluggers, and that’s a good sign for a lineup that has been decimated by (minor) injuries over the last few weeks.

    Somehow, the Phillies improved to their most games above .500 so far this season with a win against the Cubs on Tuesday night, doing it without three of their best hitters in Bryce Harper, Kyle Schwarber and J.T. Realmuto. They did it with Michael Mercado filling in for not one, but two injured fifth starters in Taijuan Walker and Spencer Turnbull.

    So what’s the latest on these five key injured players?

    Bryce Harper, 1B

    The Phillies’ first baseman and NL MVP candidate jogged Tuesday at Wrigley Field, and manager Rob Thomson told reporters that his hamstring was improving (via MLB.com). He said a return before the All-Star break was possible. The soonest Harper is permitted to suit up after his 10-day IL stint is July 9.

    Kyle Schwarber, DH

    With a “very very mild” strain to his groin, the Phillies home run savant is also expected to be back at plate very close to his July 9th eligible return date.

    J.T. Realmuto, C

    Perhaps the most promising news from Tuesday was that Realmuto took batting practice with his teammates on the north side of Chicago. It was the first time he was spotted hitting since he got surgery on his right knee back on June 12. He also participated in other drills. His expected return was about a month, which could land him back behind the plate just after the All-Star break, though he seems ahead of schedule based on what was seen at Wrigley.

    Taijuan Walker, SP

    Walker never looked like himself this season, and he’s currently dealing with a few injury issues ranging from a sore shoulder to a blister on his right index finger. Walker will be out until at least the All-Star break, and his return timeline seems a little more murky than his teammates. His recovery depends on when he is able to grip and throw without pain.

    Spencer Turnbull, SP

    Finally, Turnbull, who was called upon to replace Walker but left with a strain to his lat midway through his latest stint on the mound. The injury was given a six-to-eight week recover timeframe — a  length that would also likely require a rehab assignment. August seems likely as a target for Turnbull.


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  • No Need to Stress About the Phillies Fifth Starter – Philadelphia Sports Nation

    No Need to Stress About the Phillies Fifth Starter – Philadelphia Sports Nation

    If there’s been one consistent complaint about this Phillies team in 2024, it’s been the fifth starter.

    Taijuan Walker has been a failed experiment since he signed with the club before the 2023 season. Walker was 15-6 with a 4.38 ERA in 31 starts last year, which was nothing to sneeze at. The issue, especially with the fans, came playoff time and the time since.

    Manager Rob Thomson decided not to use the veteran right-hander, which isn’t uncommon in the playoffs. Many teams opt to use a three-man rotation come playoff time to try to gain an advantage over the opposing team. However, Thomson decided not to use Walker at all, even in the bullpen, causing a little bit of controversy.


    The 31-year-old has dealt with injuries all season and is currently on the 15-day IL.

    The Phillies turned to Spencer Turnbull to replace Walker in the rotation.


    Turnbull started the season in the starting rotation

    and pitched very well while Walker was making his way back from injury. He was moved to the bullpen once Walker was healthy before returning to the rotation on Wednesday against Detroit.

    Turnbull left Wednesday’s game against the Tigers after three innings in which he threw 36 pitches due to right shoulder soreness. The right-hander is at risk of landing on the IL as well.

    The Phillies have been one of the top teams in baseball all season, with little holes on the roster. People look at outfield depth and the fifth starter when assessing the Phillies’ biggest needs moving forward into the second half of the season.


    It’s time to stop worrying about the fifth starter.


    Most teams would love to be in the Phillies’ position with four top pitchers in the starting rotation in: Zack Wheeler, Ranger Suárez, Cristopher Sánchez, and Aaron Nola. People don’t usually expect a fifth starter to be dominant or even that valuable to a team’s overall success.

    The Phillies will be fine with Walker as the fifth starter moving forward when he returns from injury. They’ll be fine if Turnbull needs to take over the fifth starter spot down the line. They’ll even be fine if they need to opt for the ever-so-popular bullpen game when the fifth spot in the rotation rolls around.

    Whoever’s pitching on the fifth day won’t be relevant come playoff time. The Phillies will likely use a three-man rotation again, anyway.


    You know a team is good when everyone is complaining about a fifth starter.

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  • Phillies quick hits: Homestand begins with series win over Cardinals

    Phillies quick hits: Homestand begins with series win over Cardinals

    Over the course of an 162-game regular season, even the greatest baseball teams experience adversity at some point. For the 2024 Phillies, riding high through 50 games or so, that adversity finally struck when the team struggled in a six-game west coast road trip, winning only two out of their six games against the Colorado Rockies and San Francisco Giants.

    The team returned home for a six-game homestand before it departs for a two-game set against the New York Mets in London, and got right back to their winning ways. Here is what jumped out from their three-game series against the St. Louis Cardinals:

    Back of bullpen flexes muscles in series opener

    The Phillies have had one or two weak links in their bullpen at most points of this season — which is the case for just about all clubs every season — but what is much more important than who a manager’s least-trusted bullpen weapons are is who their most reliable options are. Phillies manager Rob Thomson has the remarkable luxury of utilizing three different relief pitchers who would be the no-doubt-about-it closer for the majority of major-league teams.

    That was never more evident than during Friday night’s 4-2 victory over St. Louis. Aaron Nola threw 6.1 innings of two-run ball, only allowing three hits. Nola was at 96 pitches and could have tried to complete the seventh inning, but because Thomson has three horses, he decided to not take any chances. Thomson needed eight outs from his three highest-leverage relievers, and they did the job without allowing a single runner to reach base.

    First was Matt Strahm, who in 2024 — his first full season as a relief pitcher after being forced into an unplanned starting role at the beginning of 2023 — has been the best left-handed reliever in baseball by just about any metric. Despite not having a triple-digit fastball in his back pocket, Strahm has become a master at striking out hitters, and he has done so with impeccable command. He constantly pounds the strike zone and 

    Up next was José Alvarado, who went from being demoted to Triple-A to the most dominant left-handed reliever in just a few months during 2022 and has since established himself as a mainstay at the back of Thomson’s bullpen. The hard-throwing southpaw had a disastrous Opening Day in 2024, allowing five earned runs in 0.2 innings pitched. But since then he has been lights out.

    While Alvarado’s strikeout numbers have normalized a bit in 2024 — for the prior year and a half or so, they were outrageous; this season they are simply very good — the flamethrower has still done an outstanding job pitching in almost exclusively high-leverage situations. Alvarado has kept right-handed hitters in check, while left-handed hitters are essentially automatic outs against him right now.

    Alvarado went onto make a true web gem Sunday night:

    The ninth inning belonged to Jeff Hoffman. In 2022, the Phillies’ front office and pitching coaches found a diamond in the rough in Andrew Bellatti, who gave them solid innings as a middle reliever and occasional setup man. Last season, as Bellatti’s production waned, an even more impressive scouting success became apparent in the signing of Hoffman. Initially signed to a minor league deal, Hoffman became Thomson’s most relied-upon right-handed reliever by the time the 2023 Postseason was underway — and the former first-round pick, just a handful of months away from hitting free agency as a coveted arm, has gotten even better in 2024.

    In addition to the best starting pitching rotation in the majors, the Phillies have the best bullpen trio in baseball with Strahm, Alvarado and Hoffman. It is a recipe for success all summer long, and it is certainly a recipe for success in October.

    Edmundo Sosa’s revenge

    When Edmundo Sosa caught the final out of the 2022 National League Wild Card Series at Busch Stadium in St. Louis, the Phillies poured out of their dugout and rejoiced a playoff series victory. But it had to have been a bit sweeter for Sosa, who had been traded by the Cardinals to the Phillies just a few months earlier. Sosa fell out of favor in St. Louis, was shipped to Philadelphia and instantly became a key bench contributor for Thomson’s club.

    Since Trea Turner went on the Injured List, Sosa has not just been a viable replacement: he has been so good that the team may consider moving him to the outfield — where he has very rarely played during his professional career — once Turner returns from injury just to keep his bat in the lineup.

    On the first pitch of his first at-bat of the series, Sosa demolished a slider that Cardinals starting pitcher Miles Mikolas left over the middle of the plate. It landed onto Ashburn Alley, a true rarity these days. Sosa absolutely obliterated this ball, the longest home run of his major-league career:

    When the Phillies acquired Sosa back in 2022, it seemed like a minor move. But he kept finding ways to help the team through its playoff run. Now, someone once believed to have the ceiling of a platoon player is making a strong case that he needs to play on an everyday basis.

    Finally, some right-handers

    Because of the makeup of the Phillies’ lineup and roster, there is a certain way opposing teams are going to attack them: showing them as many left-handed pitchers as humanly possible. With Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper entrenched in the top three of the order and Bryson Stott and Brandon Marsh in the middle of it — with right-handed alternatives like Whit Merrifield and Cristian Pache largely struggling at the plate this season — it makes sense to challenge them in that way.

    Entering Saturday, the Phillies had 784 plate appearances against left-handed pitching in 2024 — the second-highest total belonged to the Miami Marlins at just 722. Some of it is bad luck, but some of it can certainly be attributed to teams identifying their best chance of limiting Thomson’s high-powered lineup.

    In the Giants series, southpaws started all three games for San Francisco. But, in a change of pace that the Phillies surely welcomed, they faced three right-handed starters in the series against the Cardinals: the struggling Mikolas, a star in Sonny Gray and grizzled veteran Lance Lynn. They are expected to face right-handers in at least the first two games of their upcoming series against the Milwaukee Brewers, if not all three.

    The biggest winner here is Marsh, who may have speculated struggles at times due to a lack of consistent at-bats. Marsh’s production against left-handers has gone from bad in 2022 and 2023 to worse in 2024, and Thomson has frequently opted to play Merrifield or Pache in left field when his team is facing a lefty. 

    While the cries for Marsh to see more consistent playing time have some merit, it is awfully difficult to blame Thomson for not wanting to start the fan favorite outfielder against southpaws. In 46 plate appearances against left-handed starting pitchers in 2024, Marsh is slashing .129/.196/.175, striking out 20 times and drawing just four walks. 

    In any case, truly playing on an everyday basis — even for just one homestand — could be quite helpful for Marsh. However, the 26 year-old outfielder left Sunday’s game after suffering a right hamstring strain rounding second base.

    Taijuan Walker hit hard again

    Since returning from the Injured List and making his 2024 regular season debut on April 28, Walker has been the lone weak link of the Phillies’ starting rotation. The veteran right-hander’s ERA was 5.51 entering his second start on ESPN’s “Sunday Night Baseball” this season, and it only grew in the series finale. Cardinals manager Oli Marmol’s lineup was aggressive, and were rewarded with plenty of hard-hit balls.

    In the first inning, Walker allowed three balls to be put in play, and all three of them were hit at an exit velocity of at least 103 miles per hour — including a two-run home run by Cardinals slugger Nolan Gorman that came off the bat at 108.6 MPH. In the third inning, Walker put the Cardinals’ leadoff man on with a walk before allowing another two-run shot — this one hit by Alec Burleson at 105 MPH. In addition to allowing plenty of hard contract Sunday night, Walker also struggled with command. 

    Walker’s final line Sunday: 5.0 innings, five hits, four runs (all earned), five strikeouts and three walks on 93 pitches (56 strikes). As has often been the case during his Phillies tenure, he received good run support, ultimately receiving a no decision. With seven starts and 37.2 innings now in the books, Walker’s ERA is now 5.73. 

    As Burleson rounded the bases following his no-doubt homer, a noteworthy portion of the crowd began chanting “we want Turnbull,” in reference to Spencer Turnbull, who dazzled as the team’s fifth starter for the first month of the season in Walker’s absence before being moved to the bullpen once the veteran was activated.

    After Ranger Suárez was forced to exit Saturday’s game after just two innings, Thomson turned to Turnbull for bulk innings. The 31 year-old right-hander, who initially struggled in his transition to a relief role — Turnbull had never appeared in a major-league game out of the bullpen before 2024 — threw three lights-out innings, allowing no runs, hits or walks while striking out six. 

    It remains to be seen if the Phillies will be willing to pull the plug on Walker in the starting rotation — it would be difficult to do in the second year of a four-year, $72 million contract. All evidence that exists to date suggests Turnbull is this team’s fifth-best starting pitcher.

    The big questions remains: how long is Walker’s leash going to be?


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  • The Phillies Have a $77M Problem – Philadelphia Sports Nation

    The Phillies Have a $77M Problem – Philadelphia Sports Nation

    The Phillies have a Taijuan Walker problem.

    The veteran right hander signed a 4-year $77M contract in the 2022 offseason and has been a problem ever since. Despite leading the team with wins a season ago, Walker pitched to a 4.38 ERA and was left off the postseason roster all together due to some really bad outings down the stretch. This prompted Walker to like a few tweets that criticized Rob Thomson for a couple different decisions against the Diamondbacks in the NLCS. This isn’t something that is normal for this particularly close group.

    Walker came into the season this year with a pretty big dip in velocity consistently sitting at 89-90 mph before he was placed on the IL with a shoulder injury to start the season. This let Spencer Turnbull take the reigns and he was phenomenal. At the time of Walker’s return Turnbull led the league in ERA but was still taken out of the rotation. Since returning from the IL Walker has pitched 32.2 innings and has an ERA of 5.51 and a 5.29 FIP all while sporting the same velocity dip we saw in the spring.

    After allowing four earned runs in five innings pitched on Sunday night against the Cardinals, the questions regarding the team’s decision to move Turnbull out of the rotation in favor of Walker are not going away. It’s very possible that Walker is just not good anymore. He’s been through a ton of injuries, especially early in his career. For a team that has excelled at developing pitchers in recent years, the fact that they can’t fix Walker is very concerning.

    It’s no secret that Turnbull should’ve never left the rotation, it’s strictly because of salary. It sets a bad precedent for a team that is in win-now mode and tells Turnbull that no matter how well he plays he has no chance at keeping a spot in the rotation.

    The Phillies need to find a way to get out from under the Taijuan Walker contract soon, preferably at the trade deadline. It’s time to get Turnbull back in the rotation.


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  • The Phillies’ 2024 rotation is 2011 levels of dominant

    The Phillies’ 2024 rotation is 2011 levels of dominant

    The Phillies’ starting pitching has stormed out of the gate as one of the best in baseball in the early part of the season. 

    Between Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Ranger Suárez, Cristopher Sánchez, and a resurgent Spencer Turnbull, the five-man rotation has been shutting club after club down, racking up strikeouts in bunches, eating up innings, and even flirting with no-hit bids. 

    They’ve been dominant, which has helped push the Phils to a 15-9 start and compensated for points where the bats and bullpen were searching for their footing. 

    And they’ve been so dominant, in fact, that maybe it isn’t too far-fetched to compare the 2024 rotation so far to the last truly assembled Philadelphia powerhouse: the four-ace lineup of Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels, Roy Oswalt, and Joe Blanton from 2011. 

    Wheeler, Nola, Suárez, and Sanchez – after his three-inning, five-run setback Tuesday night in Cincinnati – have each made five starts, while Turnbull has been through four and will likely make his final one on Wednesday night before moving to the bullpen to make way for Taijuan Walker. 

    Using those as the barometer, here is how the Phillies’ 2024 starting rotation compares to that of the 102-win 2011 club at the same point in the year:

    2024  GS  W-L  ERA  IP  CG  SO  HR 
    Wheeler, R  1-3  2.30  31.1  38 
    Nola, R  3-1  3.16  31.1  26 
    Suárez, L  4-0  1.36  33.0  32 
    Sanchez, L  1-3  2.96  24.1  28 
    Turnbull, R 2-0  1.23  22.0  22 
     2011 GS   W-L ERA   IP  CG SO  HR 
     Halladay, R 3-1  2.41  37.1  39 
    Lee, L  2-2  4.18  32.1  39 
    Hamels, L  3-1  3.13  31.2  34 
    Oswalt, R  3-1  3.33  27.0  21 
    Blanton, R  0-1  5.92  24.1  17 

    Numbers via baseball-reference

    And by that point, the 2011 Phils were 16-8, were well on their way to the best regular season in franchise history, and were heavy World Series favorites the whole way through – you know, until that damn squirrel had something to say about it…

    Anyway, a few other points…

    • If you’re wondering where Vance Worley is in the 2011 table, he didn’t come into the picture until the end of April, when Blanton went on the injured list and the Phillies looked to him to take on the fifth-starting role upon his call-up – a role he ended up pitching well enough in to hold on to for a good while. 

    • Suárez has taken a massive leap as the third starter so far this season and has been so dialed in that he’s on a 25-inning scoreless streak, the longest such streak for a Phillies starter since…Cliff Lee in 2011 (per MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki)

    That calm and effortlessly cool composure on the mound sure looks familiar, too.

    • Complete games feel like a rarity anymore when not considerably all that long ago, it wasn’t surprising at all to see someone like Halladay go the full nine. Suárez has pitched one of the just four complete games so far in 2024. 

    • Wheeler’s record right now isn’t ideal, but a lack of run support through his first three starts, some rotten luck, and a grand slam on his part against the Pirates on April 14 didn’t do him any favors. He bounced back in a major way though with a scoreless 7.1 innings against the White Sox last go around that he was also pushing a no-hit bid for. 

    • A notable difference in the makeup of the 2024 rotation compared to 2011, other than that 2024 isn’t as star-studded of a group: Only Wheeler and Turnbull are the arms in the current rotation who were brought in from the outside. Nola, Suárez, and Sanchez are all homegrown. 

    With 2011, Halladay was acquired via trade; Lee through trade, trade away, then sign back; Blanton through trade; and then Oswalt through trade. Hamels was the only homegrown talent there up until Worley joined him for a bit. 

    The Dave Dombrowski-led Phillies of today do spend a lot of money, but they’re built from within a bit more than most would think at face value. 


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  • The Tables Have Turnbulled – Should Spencer Turnbull Remain a Part of the Rotation into the Summer? – Philadelphia Sports Nation

    The Tables Have Turnbulled – Should Spencer Turnbull Remain a Part of the Rotation into the Summer? – Philadelphia Sports Nation

    We’re just 16 games into Major League Baseball’s 2024 regular season, and the Philadelphia Phillies, currently 8-8, are in a state of flux.
    Like most other teams in baseball, the Phillies are still figuring things out–Johan Rojas maintains a tenuous hold over center field, the bullpen runs hot and cold, the offense has been spotty, and the starting rotation has been surprisingly bolstered by the back end.

    Aside from Bryce Harper’s revelatory performance at first base, the defense has been atrocious, Kyle Schwarber has been uncharacteristically contact-happy (12 out of his 15 hits have been singles), and the officiating has been subpar, to say the least. At home, fans are ranting and raving at the television with each game, still seemingly unaware that 147 of them remain to be played. It’s April. We’re all still figuring this out. 

    Fortunately for the Phillies, the schedule makers have given them some cushioning to ease their early-season growing pains. On Monday night, they open a three-game set against Colorado, currently 4-12, followed by another three against the lowly White Sox, currently 2-13. Both series will be played at home. Their schedule becomes marginally more difficult as they make their way West, first with a four-game series in Cincinnati before landing in California to face the Padres and ending the month in L.A. against the Angels. 

    As it turns out, one of the more pleasant surprises of this young season is also one of the more immediate challenges that the team faces regarding roster construction. 31-year-old right hander Spencer Turnbull has filled in admirably for an injured Taijuan Walker, his performance impressive enough that some are calling for him to replace Walker in the rotation upon Walker’s return to the big league roster in the next few weeks. In just three starts, Turnbull has injected a shot of energy into the Phillies’ rotation–posting a 1-0 record and 1.80 ERA with 16 strikeouts in 15 innings. This past week, Turnbull contributed to a dominant stretch by the bottom three pitchers of the starting rotation, in which Cristopher Sanchez, Ranger Suarez, and himself compiled 23 strikeouts in 22 cumulative innings across four starts with a combined 1.63 ERA. 

    Three of the groups’ four allowed runs, however, came in Saturday’s game against Pittsburgh. Although the Phillies saved face with a strong 4-3 comeback win, Turnbull had his first down start of the year, allowing three earned runs on four hits and four walks in just four innings. Throughout the start, Turnbull struggled to find the zone, and without command of his six-pitch arsenal, he was largely ineffective. 


    So what does this mean? Should the Phillies give up hope on Turnbull?

    Or is the wily right-hander still a long-term option at the back end of the rotation


    The answer is somewhere in the middle. Thus far, Turnbull has been a great little surprise and everything that a team could want out of a number five starter: someone who can give them a strong, solid 5-6 innings every fifth day. But Turnbull is not Taijuan Walker. There are a few important distinctions to be made. 

    One, Taijuan Walker is in the second year of a four-year, $72 million contract. With a higher paycheck comes increased expectations. Walker is meant to be a number four pitcher and not the fifth starter in a five-man rotation, a solid innings eater with the upside of something greater. Something akin to what the Phillies wanted Zach Eflin to be if they thought he could stay healthy for a full season. 

    There is also the issue of arm health. Although Walker has been sidelined with a shoulder issue and has another three to four starts left in his rehab, he did throw 172.2 innings last year. Turnbull, who has struggled mightily with arm injuries in the past five years, threw just 31 innings in 2023. As a general rule of thumb, pitchers aren’t recommended to increase their inning total from more than 30-40 per year, thus capping Turnbull’s potential innings at around 100. 

    The possibility of keeping both Turnbull and Walker in a six-man rotation upon Walker’s return is enticing but not likely this early in the season. Although ostensibly the idea makes perfect sense–limiting the innings on all of the pitchers early on should make things easier–the team found out last year that it wasn’t necessarily conducive to success: Zack Wheeler pitched remarkably better on four or five days rest compared to six. 


    Turnbull’s mere presence as a positive starting option, however, is perhaps the best kind of problem that the Phillies could have. The season is a long one, and one of the starting pitchers, invariably, will go down with an injury at some point in 2024. Having Turnbull as a replacement option or even as the sixth man in an extended rotation in, say, July or August could be invaluable. Even as the long man out of the ‘pen, Turnbull could prove his worth. 

    Walker will get the nod when he returns from rehab, and he should. After not making an appearance in last year’s postseason, one would imagine that he has something to prove. The Phillies are paying him to be a long-term, viable starter, and they have to see if he can do just that. However, if Walker struggles for an extended period of time–his velocity never picks up, he’s not consistently pitching past the fifth inning, etc.–then the leash should not be long.


    Because $74 million or not, only one thing matters to the Phillies at the end of the day: who gives them the best chance to win.
    That should be the deciding factor in who takes the mound every fifth day. 

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