The creators of Emmy-winning drama “Shogun” offered tantalizing glimpses into the ambitious scope of the show’s second season during a discussion at the Disney+ originals preview at Hong Kong Disneyland Resort on Thursday, promising unprecedented battle sequences and an unexpected romance alongside the series’ 10-year narrative leap.
Co-creator and executive producer Justin Marks described the sophomore season as both a sweeping love story and an exploration of war’s devastating cost, teasing visual scale that will push beyond what audiences have seen before. “Part 2 is, I would say two things,” Marks said. “Like the first season, I think part two is a really sweeping, beautiful and you’re never going to see a coming, entirely unexpected love story. It’s also a story of war and the cost of war. There are battle sequences that we’re putting together now in part two. I don’t think you’ve ever seen anything like this kind of scale, this kind of tragedy and this kind of humanity.”
The new season will jump ahead a decade from the events that concluded season one, a creative choice that Marks said reflects both the realities of modern television production and an opportunity to rediscover the characters in a fresh context. “This show is going to take us a little while to produce. It’s not coming out one year later, and there’s this thing that drives me crazy when you watch a show that ended three years ago, and you get into season two and it’s like five minutes later,” Marks explained. “We’re trying to use this jump as a way to come back to our characters again for the very first time, to see them, to see what’s changed in their lives over the course of the last 10 years, and to rediscover them.”
The time jump also serves the show’s larger ambitions as what Marks described as “a saga first and foremost.” While the first season centered on agency and power, following “a man intent on bringing about peace from the threshold of war,” the historical reality of feudal Japan’s trajectory means season two will grapple with different themes. “As we know in history, that’s not quite how things turned out for feudal Japan at that time,” Marks noted.
Co-creator and executive producer Rachel Kondo said the connection audiences formed with the first season has given the creative team confidence to venture into more challenging territory. “I think it was surprising to us that the audience was drawn to the story as emotionally and as profoundly as they were,” Kondo said. “What we felt in the audience was that they had lent us the most important things. They lent us their time. They lent us their care, they lent us their attention. It’s really the thing that we take into season two, because it’s what emboldens us.” That trust, she suggested, opens creative possibilities. “If we had people follow us into this land of feudal Japan, maybe they’ll follow us into some deeper, more cavernous spaces.”
Star and executive producer Sanada Hiroyuki, whose performance as Lord Toranaga Yoshii earned him Emmy and Golden Globe awards, spoke extensively about the show’s impact and what lies ahead. “It was a great surprise, big surprise,” Sanada said. “We got a lot of awards, and for me, especially as a producer and as a leading actor, each time I got a award, that was amazing. I could never have imagined shooting in Vancouver a few years ago.”
The veteran actor, who started as a child actor in Japan and has worked for 40 years locally and 20 years in Hollywood, reflected on pouring all that experience into the first season. “Being recognized in this way is a significant point in my life,” he said. “During the awards ceremonies, the faces of all the people involved, my seniors and teachers, appeared in my mind. In a sense, I feel I was able to repay them.”
Sanada emphasized the broader significance of the show’s success for Asian talent globally. “The awards I received are not just for this work, not just for Japanese actors, but they represent opportunities expanding for talented individuals from various countries,” he said. “What was once called a dream can now be achieved if you work toward it. I hope this becomes a message.”
He had encouragement for aspiring actors. “As long as you prepare yourself so you won’t be flustered when your chance comes, by learning language, acting, and physical skills including movement, I believe opportunities like this will come again,” Sanada said. “I think this ‘Shogun’ platform has become an important stage for giving chances to wonderful young talent and introducing them to the world. Please look forward.”
Speaking about working with younger actors, including Asano Tadanobu, who played Yabushige Kashigi in the first season, Sanada said the experience has been enriching. “Working with young actors is always stimulating, and I learn a lot from them as well,” he said. As both an actor and producer on the series, he was able to provide guidance from early production stages, including advising on physical movement, sword techniques and how to sheathe the sword properly. “When good takes were captured, I felt even happier than when I succeeded myself. I worked with a parental feeling of joy,” he said.
When asked what audiences can expect from the new season, Sanada teased surprises. “This is a historical story, but even those who know what happened in history will be freshly surprised and excited by the twists,” he said.
Sanada acknowledged the pressure of following up the first season’s success while expressing confidence in the team. “Of course, I have pressure for Season 2, but we have a teamwork from season one, and we have a lot of great new casts, so I can’t wait to start shooting, and I can use my pressure as strength to create even better season two,” he said. Kondo playfully reminded him to rest and take vitamins, noting that the new season will be demanding. Sanada joked that playing the character 10 years older might allow for a quieter performance.
The production is bringing back two directors from the first season, Kamata Hiromi and Fukunaga Takeshi, while adding new voices including Anthony Byrne, Kate Herron and Marks himself to the directorial roster. Marks praised the new directors’ deep engagement with the show’s world. “Anthony and Kate, these two new faces coming to our show in Vancouver are filmmakers and visionaries in their own right, and came to this show as people who had really immersed themselves in the world of season one and fallen in love with it. We were really touched by that and the insights they had.” The directors are currently in pre-production in Vancouver, building sets for what promises to be a visually ambitious season.
With Season 2 venturing beyond James Clavell’s original novel, Marks emphasized the continued close partnership with the author’s estate. Clavell’s daughter Michaela remains an executive producer on the series and has been deeply involved in every creative decision. “She’s been for us from the very beginning, our muse in this process, someone who really understands her father’s words and has been engaged on every draft, every casting choice, every director choice,” Marks said. “She really has been someone who keeps us honest with the words.”
The creative team began developing ideas for Season 2 during production of the first season, leaning into what Marks described as “the spirit of storytelling from the era in which ‘Shogun’ was written, which is a great serialized saga storytelling of the 70s, where you could just pick up a story and get immersed in 100 different horizontal directions.”
Kondo suggested that working within constraints has actually enhanced their storytelling approach. “I think we discovered that having parameters enhance the story,” she said. “We had so many blockades along the way, COVID, a huge shoot, inexperienced people. We learned to invite parameters. The biggest parameter of all right now for us is this history itself. We have to work within the confines of what has happened and make choices and be discerning.”
Marks credited FX with giving the production creative freedom from the start, including the bold decision to produce the show predominantly in Japanese with subtitles. “They allowed us to make these risks,” he said. “To do this show in the United States, predominantly in Japanese, to allow us to subtitle it in the way that we did. That’s on them, to really give it to us. It was a very courageous choice on their end.” That creative courage extended to allowing the show to explore “poetry and performance and dance contests and all kinds of things” rather than defaulting to more conventional action-driven storytelling.
While the creators remained tight-lipped about specific plot details, Marks acknowledged that the new season will introduce fresh faces alongside returning cast members. “We killed a lot of people” in the first season, he said. “We have some really exciting characters this season, characters that I want to tell you everything about, but cannot. These faces really popped for us, so we’re just so excited to bring our own family together with these new faces and watch them become part of this world.”
“Shogun” Season 1 broke the record for most Emmy Award wins by a series in a single season with 18 statuettes. Sanada became the first Japanese actor history to win the Emmy for best lead actor in a drama. Anna Sawai was also the first actress of Asian decent to win best lead actress in a drama.
So with 14 wins already in the bag going into the Primetime Emmys on Sunday, September 15, the question wasn’t whether Shōgun would break any more records. It was by how wide of a margin Shōgun would smash the previous record—13 Emmys, set by HBO’s John Adams in 2008—to bits.
Shōgun won four more Emmys during the Primetime event: Best Lead Actress in a Drama Series for Anna Sawai, Bead Lead Actor in a Drama Series for Hiroyuki Sanada, Best Drama, and Best Directing. That means the first season of Shōgun cumulatively won a whopping 18 Emmys.
Shōgun‘s wins were historic in more than one way. Anna Sawai became the first actor of Asian descent to win Best Lead Actress in a Drama Series. Hiroyuki Sanada was only the second person of Asian descent to win the Lead Actor category after Squid Game‘s Lee Jung-jae won a few years ago. And most of the Japanese cast and crew members nominated for Shōgun were largely the first Japanese nominees in all their Emmy categories. After so many years of “Oscars so white” trending over and over again, you simply love to see it.
So congratulations to Shōgun! According to the showrunners, two more seasons are in the works, so hopefully there will be many more Emmys to come for that team.
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As Vulture pleaded for last month, the original Shōgun miniseries from 1980 is now available to stream. What a bonfire Eric Vilas-Boas’ words made. You can watch all 5 episodes (and their cool, vintage, slightly too-long opening credits) on Paramount+. It won’t completely tide you over until Shōgun season 2, but it will certainly help. Maybe you can read the book next? Or join the anjinposting group on Facebook.
James Clavell was an executive producer on the 1980 Shōgun series, as his daughter was on the FX series. Richard Chamberlain plays John Blackthorne, much less sweary than Cosmo Jarvis obviously. Playing the role of Yoshi Toronaga, the titular would-be Shōgun, is the legendary Toshiro Mifune. And playing the Portuguese pilot Rodriguez is John Rhys-Davies, a.k.a. Sallah from Raiders of the Lost Ark. Unlike 2024’s Shōgun which used British Columbia to stand in for Osaka and envrions, the 1980 version was filmed entirely in Japan.
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Chris and Andy remember the legendary engineer and producer, Steve Albini, who passed away this week (1:00). They then talk of news that the third season of The Bear will be out this June (13:25) and that Shogun will be getting a second season (18:30). Next, they talk about Disney and Warner Bros. reaching a deal to offer a Disney+, Hulu, and Max bundle (28:44), before diving into their new favorite delight on Netflix: John Mulaney’s quasi-late-night show, Everybody’s in L.A. (36:33).
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According to Deadline, Sanada has agreed to return to the show, in which his character battles to become a military dictator in 17th-century Japan. But sources tell the publication that “other elements are still being worked out and deals are being finalized” in an effort to extend Shōgun, which was only meant to last a single season. Making such a move would throw a compelling wrench into this year’s Emmys race, with the show potentially competing as a drama rather than a limited series. Vanity Fair has reached out to reps for FX for comment.
Adapted from the 1975 James Clavell novel by co-creators Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo, Shōgun has been a runaway hit since its February debut. “Ultimately, the audience gets to decide whether it’s something they want,” FX CEO John Landgraf previously told The Hollywood Reporter, adding that a follow-up would have to be “big and detailed as well as really deep in terms of character and the human condition.” Given its critical acclaim and commercial popularity—the series beat season two of The Bear as the most-watched Hulu premiere ever—it’s clear that appetite for the show is high.
Ahead, a look at everything we know—and have yet to learn—about a potential second season of Shōgun.
Who will return for season 2 of Shōgun?
So far, only Sanada’s name has been mentioned in reports about a possible return to the series. As the actor previously told Vanity Fair, “The novel’s events finish with our [finale], episode 10. If they want to make something more, it’s going to be totally original. Who knows? The model of Shōgun makes it easy to see what happened in real life, and then we can create an original story from then. Who knows? We have history.”
While Sanada has left the door open for a reprisal, the future is less clear for other characters, including Cosmo Jarvis’s Jack Blackthorne. He previously told VF about how difficult it was to leave the role behind at the end of filming for season one. “Blackthorne totally preoccupied and consumed me, and had for so long,” he said. “When it came to the final shot, it was just horrific, because it’s only then that I suppose Blackthorne had to be left behind and all of these adventures had to be left behind. And it was just kind of sad, you know? I suppose in a way it was relieving, but also, then you’re just another unemployed actor, and you don’t know what’s going to come next.”
There are at least a few beloved characters who will not return, as long as the second season follows a linear format. Tadanobu Asano’s Yabushige, who is sentenced to commit seppuku, a noble form of taking one’s own life, by Lord Toranaga in the finale. In the season’s penultimate episode, it is Anna Sawai’s Lady Mariko who meets her death in an act of similar sacrifice.
What will season 2 of Shōgun be about?
Marks confirmed early on that the first season of Shōgun would conclude “exactly where the book ends” and that he and Kondo “tell the complete story of the book” within its 10 episodes. But Clavell did write six books in his Asian Saga, including Shōgun, the third novel in his series. Each installment in the nonlinear sequence explores Europeans in Asia, with each centering on a different time period and location, spanning from Hong Kong to Iran.
If the creators were thinking purely chronologically, the next chapter of Shōgun would be Tai-Pan, the second novel in Clavell’s series, set in 1841 Hong Kong at the last gaps of the Opium War. Sanada’s potential involvement certainly suggests that at least his character would still be present in another iteration—even if the rest of the story assumed more of an anthology feel.
When does Shōgun season 2 come out?
Given that a renewal is purely speculative at this point, there’s no firm release date to share. In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter last month, Marks noted the “long tail of postproduction” on the show, which could prolong the waiting period before a follow-up. “It’s not like a normal TV series, where if we were in a situation like this promoting it, we wouldn’t just be in the writers room already,” he explained. “We’d be on set shooting season two by now.”
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The Midnight Boys are back to give you another jam-packed episode. First, they take a look at the latest Deadpool & Wolverine trailer (11:45). Then, they talk about the beautiful finale of Shogun (26:33) as well as the latest episode of X-Men ’97 (67:06). All before finally talking about some of the goings-on that happened at Van’s birthday party (82:03).
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In the series premiere of Shōgun, Hiroyuki Sanada’s Lord Toranaga, the soon-to-be-exiled regent at the center of the action, is described as “famous for his trickery” by his trusted vassal Lady Mariko (Anna Sawai). Ten hours later, in the last moments of the finale, Sanada sheds the character’s many layers of subtlety and artifice, finally revealing his secret desire to be Japan’s shōgun ruler in the challenge of his gaze, the set of his jaw, and the easy way he wields a katana to dispatch his betrayers. A master of control, Toranaga deftly steers Japan’s various factions — divided among religious and regional lines, and organized behind the country’s Council of Regents — off the path to civil war and into a 260-year era of peace and prosperity known as the Edo period.
These calculations are not dissimilar to Sanada’s role behind the scenes of Shōgun. Six years in the making, including a single day of filming in London in 2019 so FX could retain rights to James Clavell’s novel, the potentially not-so-limited series handed the actor his first official producing credit after years, he says, of unofficial consultant work on Western projects often set in premodern Japan. Sanada ran with the title, encouraging series co-creators Rachel Kondo and Justin Marks to hire crew with expertise in Japanese costuming, set design, hair and makeup, and stunts; painstakingly poring over translations of dialogue with producer Eriko Miyagawa, and ensuring every single episode was cut with an eye toward period-specific accuracy. Shōgun, as a result, centers Sanada’s mammoth performance in front of the camera and also feels indebted to his decades uncredited behind it.
The series cast and crew have spoken at length about your involvement as a producer, popping into scenes to coach actors, give instructions, and maintain Japanese cultural and historical authenticity. When you look back, was there an especially difficult scene that required a lot of work to get right? Episode four, when Toranaga jumps off the boat and Yabushige’s army is waiting, Toranaga makes a speech, and then Yabushige’s samurai start to cheer Toranaga. It was a complicated scene, and also an important scene — showing Toranaga stealing Yabushige’s army and then leaving for Edo. Toranaga knows it’s dangerous to stay. His strategist face needed to show, and that scene is about Toranaga and Yabushige’s power game.
That was a hard scene. It had so many extras, and such controlled timing. I talked with the director and made the plan of what the extras would say and when. I printed out my plan, and me and the master of gestures, Hannojoh, and the samurai movement adviser, Daiki Ishida, delegated to my team to train the extras: “When I say this, you say this, and at the same time.” [Extends his fist, recreating the chanting gesture from the scene.] We rehearsed and rehearsed during lighting, and we finished on time, before sunset.
Of all of your responsibilities as a producer in pre-production, production, and post-production, was a specific phase your favorite? I had so much fun on set. I was there all day, even if I had no shooting as an actor. In the early morning, check the set decoration, extras, costumes. Then call the crew and cast, then start rehearsal, then consult on moving, accent, or intonation. Go to my trailer, put my costume on, or the opposite way: costume first, then checking the monitors with the armor on. Sometimes, I’d go between main unit and second unit, checking the monitor in the car.
I wasn’t in episode nine, but every day I was on set, supporting Anna in dialogue, movement, everything. I’m so proud of her. And Yuki Kura, the young actor who played my son Nagakado, or Hiroto Kanai, who played Omi — how they drew their swords or how they said a line, with each detail, I went, “Oh my goodness, yes, that’s it.” Or Moeka Hoshi, who played Fuji — her emotional scenes, her reactions. It was my first experience as a producer, coming to creation from zero. I had that pressure, of course, and those responsibilities, but watching the actors getting better and better was such a happy moment for me.
You’ve said that as a producer, all that preparation allowed you to be more free as an actor. Was there a scene where you felt most free as Toranaga? The most exciting and tough scene was Hiromatsu’s seppuku. No dialogue, just looking at each other and knowing what the other is thinking. That was challenging, and so dramatic.
In the scene, there are spies everywhere. We have to disguise this perfectly. It was so hard to remember, Don’t cry. But as an actor, it’s hard without the tears. So I tried to show, I’m not crying, I’m angry. [Growls.] More anger was the only way to never cry. It was a tough scene, but it was a very “Toranagi” scene: inside, storm, but outside, calm or anger. That balance was very Toranagi.
I always try to be simple in front of a camera. No technique, no calculation. I feel freedom to just be there as a character, just breathe as a character, and react to others — no more than that. Don’t think about what to do was my stance, and I could be more blank than usual because I prepared everything as a producer. I know Tokuma-san, who played Hiromatsu, so it was easy to communicate. We never talked much; in the morning, “Here comes the day.” “Yeah, let’s do it.” We were just eye to eye.
When I spoke to Tokuma-san, he said when he was told about the scene, Toranaga and Hiromatsu were compared to Paul Newman and Robert Redford in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. That detail really adds a richness to understanding the connection between your characters. Tokuma-san said he took this role just for that scene. The very first day he arrived in Vancouver, we were in rehearsal and the camera test and he came directly from the airport to the studio: “Hiro, let’s talk about that scene. I have a plan.”
Tokuma-san, Justin, and I had a meeting about how we could make this scene better and focus on Hiromatsu. It was a little different at the beginning; there were other samurai who commit seppuku, but that’s not too dramatic. It must be only Hiromatsu — that’s more sad, more meaningful. So we recreated the scene, and on the day we were shooting, we were both ready, like horses at the gate. “Let me out now!”
Sanada in episode eight, “The Abyss of Life.” Photo: Copyright 2024, FX. All Rights Reserved.
Were there any other scenes that changed like that? We changed a lot from episode six to eight. Rachel had a lot of great ideas for the ladies and put those ideas in six, seven, and eight — more detail to explain their emotion and their position in that period. That’s the most important part of this season, featuring the women characters.
The other actors I’ve talked to mentioned they filmed scenes that didn’t make the final cut. Were there any scenes you were sad to let go of? I have nothing. I know the meaning of “edit” — the scissor is the final weapon for direction and very important. Sometimes what they didn’t use makes the drama better. It leaves space for the audience to color.
The translation scenes between you, Cosmo, and Anna are really well-choreographed. I saw an interview with Anna where she talked about how, as a gesture of respect, Lady Mariko wouldn’t look at Toranaga’s eyes and would instead look at your throat. What were some of the gestures that were important in those scenes? Every single movement is important: how to sit, how to stand up, how to walk, how to open the shutter screen, how to pour the sake. How to stand — not like that [slumps downward], but like this [puffs his chest forward]. Show the beauty of the kimono, show the hakama pants at the best angle and move your hips back [stands up, pushes his hips backward]. Everything had to be controlled. Especially for the fighting: How to grip, how to hold, how to move, how to place your footsteps, how to position your head. We had a bootcamp for the young actors and the extras, hundreds of extras, every day for more than four weeks. The girls had to learn the lady-in-waiting movement, how to serve the food, how to serve tea. The guys had to learn how to wear the kimono, sword fighting, archery, long spear, marching correctly. They did a great job, the extras. All the Japanese living in Vancouver, their effort was so great — even in the downpour, all-night shooting, battle scenes. They never gave up.
Do you think that level of authenticity helped the other actors, to know that much about what they’re doing physically? Yeah. Once they learned how to move or how to pronounce, they’re free, and it’s up to them as actors. And we’re checking. If they make a mistake, we never just say, “okay.” The teachers and coaches are on set and I’m watching the monitor. That’s why they can relax — if you make a mistake and no one corrects you, that means you have to be perfect. But we are all watching, so after you learn, you go into your character and into the world.
That’s interesting — you have more freedom if you know someone is there to correct you. Yes. That never happened for me on set in these 20 years. That’s why now, it’s easy to focus on my performance. If I make a mistake, they can check. And also, as a producer, I have a scissor as well. [Laughs.]
What were your responsibilities in post-production? We spent a year and a half in post-production. I went to the studio and watched the first cut. I wrote notes and sent my thoughts to the editors and Justin: “This is incorrect, we cannot use this,” or “This scene needs CGI” or “We cannot show this part; trim, please.” They re-edited, and then check, check, check. ADR was next. We hired Japanese voice actors in L.A. who did all the dialogue for the background extras, and we created the lines. We tried three people for each line of dialogue, then I texted the editor: “Second person, take three. This dialogue, third person, take seven.” After that, we had a Zoom between Tokyo and L.A. where we checked all their dialogue, intonation, and emotion for Japanese classic dialogue. Luckily, we finished all the ADR just before the start of the strike. [Laughs.] After that, we started a VFX check. How far was Osaka Castle from the harbor? Or, this area doesn’t have that kind of tall temple, that’s not history. Or, the roof color looks a little modern. Finally, checking publicity, all the characters’ photoshoots. Sometimes there was too much Photoshop makeup for the geisha girls. Or, “This photo is flipped, please don’t do that,” because the swords are on the wrong side and the kimono is going a different way. Usually the left side of the kimono is on top, and if the right side is, that’s for a dead body at a funeral. It’s the culture of things, so even in design, “please do not flip.” That’s the rule. And then all the video clips, the subtitles for promotion, check, check, check. Everything has to be correct.
What do you think was the most authentic part of the series from a Japanese perspective that would be surprising for Western audiences? The Noh theater scene in episode six. We invited real Noh theater performers to Vancouver. We created the Noh theater set in Osaka Castle, and the real Noh theater company created the original show that Lord Ishido produces using Ochiba and Taiko’s characters. All the traditional costumes were hundreds of years old and brought to Vancouver, and professional Noh actors played the characters. It was a luxury.
How long did it take for them to write the show within the show? Less than a month. The actors from the Noh theater were in Vancouver for a week, doing rehearsal and checking the set — the trees’ height, the background, the floor, where the instrument player sits. We spent two days shooting that scene.
You’ve described yourself as a bridge between the East and the West. As that bridge, was there certain wisdom or advice you gave to the younger actors? Shōgun itself is a big, strong bridge, and they felt that day by day, I think. At the end of shooting, all the young actors were saying, “I want to work on a Western project,” had started learning English already, and tried to talk to the crew in English. They were learning one sentence a day. I’m so happy about that. I want to keep creating this bridge, stronger, longer, wider, and introduce the world to our culture and bring Japanese talent and crew. I believe the door is going to be wide open, more so than 20 years ago.
What has surprised you most about how people have reacted to the show? Rotten Tomatoes, 100 percent. [Laughs.] Now 99 percent, because of somebody. I’d never heard about that. That was the first big surprise. And the Japanese reaction was so good. Some people were saying, “We were waiting for this kind of jidaigeki historical drama,” because it’s hard to make historical dramas this well in Japan. They are trying to get the young audience, and they make it modernized, Westernized, and don’t use classical Japanese ways. Real fans of jidaigeki said, “We were waiting. Thank you, Hollywood.”
Was there any discussion of a second season? We discussed that during shooting. We finished the novel in season one, so no more novel. But we have history, real history, and we know what happened. Tokugawa Ieyasu created the peaceful era for 260 years. Who knows what’s going to happen after we release the finale. Let’s see.
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
Toranaga is based on the real-life Tokugawa Ieyasu, the first shōgun of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Japan’s Edo period lasted more than 200 years, until 1868’s Meiji Restoration revolution transferred power to Japan’s emperor.
A team of gesture experts worked on Shōgun to ensure that members of the sprawling ensemble moved in alignment with Japan’s theatrical customs and social norms for the time period, especially for each character’s gender, class, and role. The team also included technical supervisor Toru Harada and period movement advisor Akiko Kobayashi.
Kazufusa Hosho, the 20th grand master of Japan’s Hōshō School specializing in Noh theater, helped craft the show-within-a-show performance in episode six. He read the script and then composed and created the Noh performance that is held in Osaka Castle at Lord Ishido’s request.
The Japanese term jidaigeki refers to period-piece dramas that are set in the country before 1868’s Meiji Restoration, which ended the Shogunate period.
FX’s historical drama Shogun has easily been the biggest new TV show of 2024 so far. Based on James Clavell’s 1975 novel of the same name, it blends political intrigue and character drama with sweeping set pieces and graphic violence, and has been a hit with audiences. If you’ve wrapped up the show and find yourself yearning for more like it, check out our list of the ten best games like Shogun.
Best Games Like Shogun
James Clavell’s Shogun
This first entry on our list is probably the easiest choice out of them all. Nearly ten years after the first television adaptation of the Shogun novel released, an adaption of the book came out as a video game from Infocom for Amiga, Apple II, DOS, and Macintosh.
Rather than anything action-packed, James Clavell’s Shogun is a heavily text-based adventure game, adhering quite closely to the novel’s plot. You play as John Blackthorne as you crash-land in Japan and come to grips with the complex political landscape, but don’t actually get to have any of the fun yourself.
It was a muted release that was widely panned, and as such it’s impossible to play on any modern systems. That might be for the best, because Clavell himself wasn’t especially interested in it – refusing to contribute creatively and merely signing off on the project.
Ghost of Tsushima
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Next on our list is arguably the closest thing there is to Shogun in video game form. Whether you’re playing the base PS4 version or the PS5’s Director’s Cut, Ghost of Tsushima is a bombastic triple-A blockbuster with boundary-pushing graphics, sharp combat, and a deep story.
You play as Jin Sakai, a samurai in 12th-century Japan. Your home island of Tsushima is under siege by imperial Mongol forces, and it’s up to you and your allies to hold them off and repel the invasion by all means.
If you loved the action in the Shogun series – even if it was few and far between – Ghost of Tsushima will more than deliver on that promise. It’s set several centuries before Shogun, but the themes of vying for power and holding off opposition pressure resonate through both.
Rise of the Ronin
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The newest game on our list, Rise of the Ronin is set in the 19th century, some 300 years after Shogun. It sticks closely to real Japanese history, taking place at the end of the Edo period where opposing forces are battling to either maintain or dissolve the shogunate government structure.
Developed by Team Ninja of Ninja Gaiden fame (more of which we’ll discuss later), swordplay is the focus in Rise of the Ronin. You can pick from various fighting styles, ranging from polearms to twin swords, each with unique skills, parries, and attacks.
For those who like the combat in Ghost of Tsushima but want something more detailed and rewarding, Rise of the Ronin will do the job. Just remember it’s a PS5 exclusive!
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
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Taking combat a step further, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice is FromSoftware’s most recent foray into real-life settings, even if its version of the Japanese Sengoku period is fictionalized. As a ninja called Wolf, you fight through hordes of enemy samurai who kidnapped your former master.
If Rise of the Ronin toes the line of risk-and-reward combat, Sekiro pushes it into all-out punishing. It’s a FromSoft game, after all, so anybody expecting a story-driven narrative adventure will soon get a big shock. The combat is notoriously difficult, ranking among the developer’s hardest games with its incredibly precise parrying time and very low HP barrier for Wolf. It’s not for everyone, but soulslike fans who also enjoyed Shogun will definitely want to give it a try.
Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection
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Rather than picking one specific game in the Ninja Gaiden series, we’ve opted to go for 2021’s Master Collection. This collated the first three HD games in the series onto modern consoles, and is even available on Game Pass for subscribers.
The precursor series to Rise of the Ronin, Ninja Gaiden was a major pioneer of sword-based hack-and-slash gameplay. It’s all about landing the highest combo you can, juggling enemies in the air, and pulling off brutal decapitation moves. The Ninja Gaiden series is much more arcadey than other entries on this list, making it a perfect starting point for newcomers to the hack-and-slash genre.
While Shogun is certainly more focused on story and characters over combat, Ninja Gaiden is an ideal remedy if you finish the series and want a more action-focused narrative.
Like a Dragon: Ishin!
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This remake of the 2014 Japan-only Yakuza game is set entirely in 18th-century Japan. You play as Sakamoto Ryoma, a former ronin now abandoned by his clan and forced to go out on a brutal quest to avenge his father. As a Like a Dragon game, though, it’s not especially self-serious.
Featuring a vast open world, the side activities are what make Like a Dragon: Ishin! stand out from other games on this list. To show how wide the range is, you can sing karaoke, cook noodles, take dance lessons, race chickens, and play poker. There’s plenty to do in the main quest, but losing yourself in these side distractions is all part of the fun.
If you liked Shogun but found it a bit too serious and dark, Like a Dragon: Ishin! is the perfect antidote. Sure, there’s a quest for revenge here, but there’s plenty of silliness as well.
Aragami
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One of the most stylized games on this list, in Aragami you play as the spirit of an assassin sent back to Earth to take out targets. Your abilities allow you to harness the power of shadows, casting illusions to manipulate enemies, transporting through shadows, and summoning weapons out of thin air.
Like a stealthier, more stylish version of Assassin’s Creed, Aragami lets you choose from various methods of dealing with enemies. The diversity of your shadow powers means you don’t always have to cut enemies down with your sword – you can also sneak past or harness shadows to engulf enemies.
It’s not too similar to Shogun in a stylistic sense, but instead a more cartoonish but equally grisly take on Japanese history.
Total War: Shogun 2
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For the strategy fans out there, Total War: Shogun 2 is a perfect accompaniment to the end of Shogun. Without delving into spoilers, let’s just say that it makes an awful lot of sense for the huge-scale conflicts of this game to fill the void left by the end of the series.
Developed as always by long-term developer Creative Assembly, Total War: Shogun 2 is the definitive historical Japanese RTS. You get to pick from various clans – those pro-shogunate and their detractors – to formulate your own forces and head into battle.
If you haven’t enjoyed military strategy games in the past, Total War: Shogun 2 probably won’t change your mind. However, anyone familiar with the genre who loved Shogun will find it the perfect companion piece.
Mafia 3
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Mafia 3 is by far the most surprising game on our list, but hear us out. Unlike the first two Mafia games, where you start off as a lowly grunt and work your way up the ladder, Mafia 3 gives you a bit more of a power trip.
In fact, once you get far enough into the story you can decide which of your rival gangs to side with, and which to do battle against. The crux of Shogun’s narrative is different factions vying for authority in a power vacuum, and Mafia 3 handles that concept really well. Yes, they’re totally different in most ways, but thematically share a hugely common thread.
Assassin’s Creed Red
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The last entry on our list is a bit of a cheat, because Assassin’s Creed Red isn’t even out yet. In fact, it doesn’t even have a proper title – Red is just the working codename, after all. That said, one of the few tidbits of information we have is that it’ll take place in Feudal Japan.
While that’s all we have to go off, we’ve already seen how the Assassin’s Creed series faithfully adapts the time periods it tackles, from Victorian London in Syndicate to renaissance Italy in the Ezio trilogy. We’ve seen how Shogun made feudal Japan a living, breathing world on television. With Assassin’s Creed Red, it should be the exact same thing for gaming.
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With just one episode left in the series, episode 9 certainly went out with a bang. Literally. So everyone is wondering if Mariko died in Shogun because if so, we’ve just said goodbye to one of our favorite characters. Mariko, played so beautifully by Anna Sawa, is based on Akechi Tama, a real-life aristocrat and Christian noblewoman who was killed before the Battle of Sekigahara.
Based on James Clavell’s novel, Shōgun is set in Japan in the year 1600 at the dawn of a century-defining civil war. Lord Yoshii Toranaga is fighting for his life as his enemies on the Council of Regents unite against him when a mysterious European ship is found marooned in a nearby fishing village. Enter John Blackthorne, an English pilot who serves on the Dutch warship Erasmus and becomes the first Englishman to reach Japan.
Initially a prisoner, Blackthorne—most commonly referred to as “Anjin”, which loosely means pilot in Japanese—begins to aid Toranaga in more ways than one and becomes enthralled by Japanese culture in doing so.
Clavell’s 1,000-page novel was turned into 10 episodes for FX and shed light on whether fans would get a second season. “We took the story to the end of the book and put a period at the end of that sentence. We love how the book ends; it was one of the reasons why we both knew we wanted to do it—and we ended in exactly that place,” co-showrunner Justin Marks told The Hollywood Reporter.
“And I’ve been party to this in the past with shows like this, where you build a whole factory, and it only pumps out 10 cars and closes up shop. It’s a bummer. You know, one of our producers wrote a nearly 900-page instruction manual for how we do this show—almost as long as the book Shogun itself. All of this infrastructural knowledge went into it.” Here’s if Mariko dies in Shogun.
Does Mariko Die In Shogun?
Does Mariko die in Shogun? Yes, sadly, our favorite character dies in an explosion in the final moments of the show’s penultimate episode. It’s not in vain, however. She sacrifices her life for Lord Yoshii Toranaga to signal Ishido Kazunari’s corruption and hopefully spark a rebellion.
“It’s such a powerful moment because she’s not only serving her Lord [Toranaga], but she’s also fulfilling her father’s wishes. She’s allowing herself to follow in the footsteps of her father, which is her wish,” Sawai told The Hollywood Reporter. “Her name is currently Toda Mariko, which is Buntaro’s last name, but she says ‘Akechi Mariko’ in her final moment. She is always going to be her father’s daughter, and this is the long, long journey. It’s the long fight [involving her father]. It’s not just about right now.”
That long journey is in reference to her suicidal ideation when she was pregnant with her son, 14 years before the events of the show. But it’s under different circumstances now. Her father, Akechi Jinsai, was a vassal of the then-Japanese ruler, Kuroda. Believing him to be corrupt, her father assassinated Kurodaa and when he was caught, he was forced to kill his entire family because of what the government considered a treacherous bloodline. Mariko begged for her life to be taken as well, but she was forced to live.
Her eventual death is “less about feeling shameful for still living, and it’s more about, ‘I don’t agree with the fact that my father and my whole family had to die, but if that is what happened, then I shall follow their footsteps. I’m going to be with them. I’m part of this whole protest’,” she explained to The Hollywood Reporter. “So that is the meaning behind her will to die throughout the whole show. It’s not that she’s saddened and just wants to die. It’s more like, “I don’t agree with this. This is not right.” And that’s the message that she keeps until her very last breath.”
Is Shogun a true story?
The events portrayed in Shogun and Lord Toranaga are loosely inspired by Tokugawa Ieyasu, who began the Tokugawa Shogunate of Japan in 1603. Historically, he’s regarded as one of the country’s “Great Unifiers”. Ieyasu was the founder and first shogun of the Tokugawa shogunate, which ruled Japan for over 250 years until the Meiji Restoration in 1868. He emerged victorious in the Battle of Sekigahara in 1600, which solidified his control over Japan and allowed him to establish a centralized government.
Under his rule, known as the Edo period, Japan experienced a long period of stability, economic growth, and cultural development. Ieyasu’s policies, such as the strict regulation of samurai and the establishment of alternate attendance (sankin-kotai), helped to maintain control over the feudal lords and stabilize the country.
Shogun, the epic historical series based on James Clavell’s novels, is nearing the end of its story. With things heating up for Toranaga and his followers, episode 9, “Crimson Sky,” is bound to change everything. But when is it hitting Hulu?
Shogun tells the story of Lord Yoshii Toranaga (Hiroyuki Sanada), a lord in feudal-era Japan who fights for the lives of himself and his vassals when a power vacuum leaves a hostile council in control of the country. Along with an English ship pilot named John Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis) and the guarded translator Lady Toda Mariko (Anna Sawai), Toranaga navigates the bloody struggles of the lords jockeying for p0wer.
Crimson Sky approaches
Warning: this section contains spoilers for Shogun episode 8, “The Abyss of Life.”
At the end of episode 8, everything seems like it’s in shambles for Lord Toranaga. His son is dead, and at the end of his mourning period, he and his vassals will surrender to the council so that they can be executed. Blackthorne has finally found the remaining members of his crew, only to discover that they don’t trust him to get them back home. In one of the harrowing final scenes, Toranaga and the others watch as Hiromatsu, Toranaga’s closest friend, commits seppuku to protest Toranaga’s plan to give up.
However, when the episode ends, we find out that Toranaga has something much more complicated up his sleeve. He has intentionally engineered his vassals’ dissatisfaction in order to provoke Yabushige and Blackthorne into an alliance. Did Toranaga and Hiromatsu plan Hiromatsu’s death beforehand, or did Toranaga let Hiromatsu believe that he truly planned to give up without a fight? Either way, Crimson Sky—Toranaga’s plan to attack Osaka—is on.
When does episode 9 of Shogun come out?
You don’t have to wait too much longer to see what happens next in Shogun. Episode 9, “Crimson Sky,” comes out on Hulu on Tuesday, April 16.
After that, Shogun has just one episode left: episode 10, “A Dream of a Dream.” That episode will come out on April 23.
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Let me describe a scenario. You’ve been looking forward to streaming the latest TV masterpiece everyone has been telling you to try. You finally find enough time to take in an hour-long episode and park yourself on the couch in front of the fancy 4K set in your living room. The screen gleams, you press play, and something looks a little … off. The top and bottom of the image seem sort of smeared.Are the edges of the frame out of focus? Did you screw something up in the settings? What’s happening here?
If any of this sounds familiar, don’t bother checking your warranty. As The Outer Limits used to say: There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. What you’re seeing is simply a hallmark of modern prestige TV. To paraphrase Norma Desmond, your screen is sharp. It’s the picture that got blurry. And that blur is by design. Welcome to TV’s era of the anamorphic lens.
Even if you somehow sidestepped every example of this trend until this year, you can’t ignore them now without suffering from FOMO. FX and Hulu’s Shogun is the most acclaimed show of 2024. It’s also one of the blurriest. And no, that’s not an accident. Like every other aspect of the meticulously plannedandproduced 10-episode miniseries, Shogun’s stylized visual language grew out of extensive consideration, conversation, and collaboration.
Early on, those three Cs involved cocreator and showrunner Justin Marks and the duo of director Jonathan van Tulleken and cinematographer Chris Ross, who would work on the first two episodes. When van Tulleken was pitching himself for the position of Shogun’s leadoff director, he put together a lookbook and mood reels that laid out his vision for the show. He took his cue from the scripts, which he says “had a texture … a strong visual voice.” On the page, Shogun “felt really bold and really like [it] had a strong point of view and a strong subjectivity.” Van Tulleken wanted to bring the same quality to the screen. And so, he says, “We started to settle on this idea of how to express this subjectivity, how to express [John] Blackthorne’s disorientation.”
While assembling the look book for Shogun, van Tulleken’s lodestars were movies that felt timeless and daring: The Godfather, Blade Runner, and, in particular, Apocalypse Now. Ross, who had teamed up with van Tulleken on previous projects dating back to Misfits, suggested several Asian influences—including Raise the Red Lantern and the work ofWong Kar-wai, Takashi Miike, and Yasujiro Ozu—as well as recent inspirations such as The Revenant and 2015’s Macbeth.
But both agree on the guiding light: Apocalypse Now, Ross says, was“a huge reference” for them. Francis Ford Coppola’s 1979 Godfather follow-up “has a point of view in its look and a point of view in its lens choice and in its framing, and it’s driven by story,” van Tulleken says, adding, “We really wanted to take some of that and create a world that was sort of intoxicating and also felt dangerous and sometimes disorienting.”
In applying that ethos to Shogun,van Tulleken and Ross adhered to the Japanese concept of wabi-sabi—essentially, that beauty and imperfection are inextricably linked and that one should seek to accept that tension. Shogun, van Tulleken says,is “a journey of acceptance,” particularly for the shipwrecked captive Blackthorne. “Everyone’s kind of a prisoner in the show, be it from culture, be it from their position in society, be it from politics, or literally a prisoner, in Blackthorne’s sense,” van Tulleken notes. The English sailor’s arc reflects “the acceptance of some of that and the acceptance of the things you can change and you can’t.”
Hence the evolution from the Blackthorne in Episode 4, who tramples on the moss in his house’s rock garden, to the Blackthorne at the end of Episode 5, who carefully smooths out the gravel surrounding a stone. Having heard Mariko’s message that “death can come for us at any moment,” and having learned the truth of that through an earthquake and the death of his gardener, he embraces the transience of beauty and life and learns to focus on the things he can control.
For the folks shooting Shogun, van Tulleken says, the challenge posed by wabi-sabi became “How do we take this very perfect thing in the digital cameras we use and also in these beautiful, austere sets and these incredible, rich costumes, and how do we break it so we’re not fetishizing it, we’re not turning it into a fantasy?”
Their answer: anamorphic lenses.
Anamorphiclenses were developed a century or so ago as a means of obtaining a wide-screen image from film and camera equipment with a non-wide-screen aspect ratio. (The lenses themselves horizontally squeeze the image, which is then stretched upon projection.) Compared to standard, spherical lenses, oval anamorphics enable a wider field of view, used in movie formats such as CinemaScope, which arose in the 1950s in response to the threat TV posed to the box office. Anamorphic lenses can capture the full sweep of stunning landscapes instead of lopping off a large part of the picture, but—for better or worse—in close-ups of characters, their shallow depth of field creates a stark contrast between the in-focus subject(s) at the center of the frame and the blurred background around them.
The anamorphic look came to be seen as “cinematic,” but the lenses fell out of favor in the 1990s thanks to the development of formats such as Super 35, which made up for some of the shortcomings of spherical lenses vis-à-vis anamorphics by offering additional horizontal film area. Not only did those newer spherical alternatives capture more of the upsides of anamorphic lenses, but they were also free of the downsides—the image artifacts and distortions that result from anamorphic compression and stretching: namely, elongated lens flare (see the prominent examples in the Playboy Bunny and Do Lung Bridge sequences of Apocalypse Now), an impressionistic, swirly bokeh (background blur), and obvious vignetting (darkened corners of the frame).
Assuming you see those as downsides, that is. In the digital era, van Tulleken says, cameras can be “very clean,” “pitiless,” and “ruthless.” That’s perfect for some projects—say, sports broadcasts—but with others, he says, “you’re trying to break that up” in order to “put an organic feel into that very digital realm.” In other words, wabi-sabi. Couple that desire with the enhanced light sensitivity of digital equipment, which has made it easier to meet the elevated lighting requirements of anamorphic lenses, and you have a recipe for a resurgence.
This impulse isn’t unique to Shogun’s creative team.The cinematographer Neil Oseman says that “ever since cinematography went mostly digital, filmmakers have looked for ways to undercut the clean precision of the images with some unpredictable characteristics. Introducing distortions, lens flares, [and] bowing in the horizontal lines, as many anamorphics do, is one way for cinematographers to achieve that.” Oseman, who blogged about the rise of anamorphic lenses on TV in 2020, says their use “has increased over the last five or 10 years” not only out of a desire for a more cinematic feel, but because “TV networks and streamers allow wider aspect ratios than they used to, so anamorphic lenses are an option where they weren’t before.” (Until about 20 years ago, most TVs weren’t wide-screen.) Anamorphic lenses are more expensive than spherical, but as Oseman notes, “TV budgets are high enough now for these expensive optics to be hired.”
Shogun’s budget was plenty big enough for the production to pair its Sony Venice cameras with Hawk V-Lite and class-X anamorphic lenses, whose bokeh boasts a “really interesting swirl,” according to van Tulleken. (V-Lites were used on the British crime drama Top Boy, an early small-screen anamorphic adopter that van Tulleken and Ross worked on.) As Shogun begins,Blackthorne arrives in a land that seems strange and somewhat barbaric to him. The Englishman seems just as strange and barbaric to those he meets. To capture that mutual alienation, the filmmakers leaned into their tools’ distortive effects. The aperture of a lens controls how open it is; the wider the aperture, the more light it lets in, and the more noticeable the bokeh. Early on, van Tulleken says, “We were wide open a lot on the [lenses] so that we could really have a natural, strong focus falloff behind our characters.”
See, for instance, Blackthorne’s wraithlike crewmates in the premiere:
Or a couple of Blackthorne’s captors looming behind him, before he breaks down the language barrier:
Some shots show basic barrel distortion. Others evince an even more exaggerated fish-eye effect. And then there’s the vignetting, which van Tulleken and Co. opted not to crop out in postproduction. “In some places, to show that Blackthorne alienation and that disorientation, we actually left those in,” the director says.
These choices suited the aesthetic the creators were crafting. Following the leads of Apocalypse Now, Macbeth, and The Revenant, Ross says,“We wanted to be more visceral and more first-person, wanted to put the audience in the protagonists’ shoes. So that led us to think that we would be jumping into their sphere of influence, within 3 feet of the characters’ space.” The background blur encourages the viewer to, well, focus on the foreground characters.
In theory, these anamorphic artifacts can convey character dynamics, too. In some scenes, van Tulleken says, “There was almost a wrestle for who was in control of them, whose scene it was.” Accentuating or masking anamorphic effects depending on the scene or the speaker was one way to “play with those shifting sands of power within a scene, and who thinks they have it and who doesn’t.” Ross adds, “Every scene has a surface story, a surface plot, but at the same time … deep levels of character development and then, in hindsight, some form of revelation, because of betrayal or whatever.” Rewatching Shogun withthat hindsight and dissecting it on a shot-by-shot level might produce epiphanies about why certain scenes were framed the way they were.
This all seems somewhat adventurous, stylistically, for a series FX was making a big bet on. Were there any network notes?
“There was nervousness,” Ross says. “There’s nervousness about everything, which is totally understandable. It’s huge sums of money to spend and an enormous leap into the unknown.” Ultimately, though, “Everyone was super supportive of this idea.” Van Tulleken acknowledges that “different streamers have a different appetite for boldness,” but at FX, he says, “No one ever said, ‘Ah, I think this thing is too much.’ … It was always a sense of: How can we push the show? How can we live up to the ambition of the show? … It was an astoundingly supportive environment to make something in.”
The internet, naturally, is not always so supportive. Shogun, on the whole, has been rapturously received by critics and the public alike. The unorthodox cinematography, specifically, has drawn some measure of praise but also some consternation, judging by various Reddit posts and comments. Some spectators seem to have been alienated (or just plain confused) by Shogun’s visual depiction of its characters’ alienation.
The anamorphic backlash to Shogun and its ilk could be akin to two common complaints about TV: Shows are too hard to hear, and shows are too dark to see. Each of those gripes stems in part from the fact that the conditions under which TV is created differ from the conditions under which it’s consumed. In this case, it’s not that viewers lack the high-end speakers or screens to render a director’s vision faithfully; it might be that the audience lacks the visual vocabulary to grok what the auteur intended. Perhaps this fancy stuff slays with cinephiles, but it leaves the average viewer cold.
One of the problems with Hollywood today is that all the movie editors are now using HDR screens with 1000 nits brightness, and they don’t realize that they are making every movie and TV show way too dark to see.
Van Tulleken is not the kind of creator who claims not to read the comments. “I’ve read all the Reddit,” he admits. And he’s thought a lot about the balance between challenging and distracting viewers.
“You just have to go where you feel the visuals tell you to go,” he says. On Shogun, these decisions were“led by the story” and “came from a very, very well-thought-out philosophy. … And I think if you’re trying to go out there and make something interesting and make something that captures people’s attention, it is impossible to please everyone.” Every viewer “has the right to their point of view,” van Tulleken continues, but “there’s a world where we make the clean show and you shoot it very clinically, and you wouldn’t get the praise.”
Nor would a director like van Tulleken feel fulfilled if he shied away from following his anamorphic muse. “Anything, frankly, that makes people sit up and lean forward and pay attention to their screen, I’m all in favor of,” he says. In his view, it’s better to conduct an experiment that might make some viewers annoyed than to hew so closely to convention that no one feels anything. “Sometimes on set, you feel a little scared doing something, and you don’t know whether that’s failing or succeeding,” van Tulleken says. “But I’m always quite a fan of that feeling of going, ‘God, I don’t know.’ I think it’s better to feel a little bit scared when you’re trying to make some art than the reverse of feeling like, ‘Ah, I know this will work because I’ve seen it a million times.’”
Ross’s sentiments are similar. “Sometimes some people won’t agree with you and they don’t like the aesthetic,” he says. “But if you try to create an aesthetic that everybody loved, then you’d effectively create the image equivalent of Walmart. And although it’s a great shop where you can buy everything you need, you don’t get your bespoke suit from Walmart, you get it from Jermyn Street. You’ve got to fight the fight you feel you need to win in order to create the aesthetic that all of you believe in so strongly.”
Darcy Touhey, a director, producer, and camera assistant who worked as a film loader on Shogun, responded to some Redditors to defend the visuals from accusations of sloppiness—though he does share some viewers’ reservations. Via private message, he says, “It is 100 percent supposed to look like this. It’s incredibly intentional and had to go through a lot of channels in [preproduction] to get approved. So people thinking it’s a mistake are just wrong. Artistically, you could say maybe it’s a mistake. Practically? Absolutely not. … We had like 10-14 monitors at any given time on set. Everyone was seeing what the audience is seeing.”
Lens-wise, however, he has some notes. “I don’t necessarily agree with the decision,” he says. “I think the breathing and the vignetting is very distracting. … Those lenses just looked better when slightly longer, in my opinion.” Touhey believes that on some series, filmmakers may be shooting wide open more than they need to and under-lighting due to digital dependency and inexperience with vintage glass. Van Tulleken confirms that to make anamorphic magic, “You need a great crew, you need a great cinematographer, you need people who really understand those lenses. … You need a great focus-puller. You need a great [camera assistant]. The lenses break, they fall apart. … I don’t think it’s for the casual hand.”
But Touhey also asserts that “people are focused on the lenses way too much when considering the cinematography of [Shogun]. The cinematography shines in this show because of the intense commitment from every department towards realism and authenticity. The sets, both studio and location, were unbelievable. The attention to detail was astounding. … A good show looks good because of every aspect of production.”
Like Blackthorne, Mariko, and most other Shogun characters, I’m torn between competing preferences and loyalties. On the one hand, I admire the audacity and distinctiveness of Shogun’s visuals and the care that clearly went into them. On the other hand, I do find the heavy anamorphic effects distracting, in the sense that some part of my brain fixates on the fluctuations in focus, possibly at the expense of some immersion in the show. (This tendency is probably exacerbated by Shogun’s reliance on subtitles: The text draws the eye to—and, in my mind, kind of clashes with—an often out-of-focus segment of the screen.) Also: I want to see those costumes, sets, and scenery! There are ways to make a series’ cinematography stand out without making some subset of the audience want to pound the tops of their TVs, Fonzie style.
I’m most amenable to the out-of-focus, swirly look when it serves the story, as it does on Shogun. The Gilded Age uses anamorphic effects to draw a distinction between the milieus of “old” New York and “new” New York. Severance does the same to separate the characters’ “severed” lives at Lumon Industries from their outside existence. Homecomingused anamorphics to underline the off-balance nature of the narrative.
Not every series seems to have such clear reasons for straying from TV tradition. Even on streaming series less thoughtful than Shogun, though, directors don’t end up with anamorphic effects by accident. “I think it’s always very considered and deliberate,” Touhey says. “Shows in those budget ranges are doing camera tests well before shooting. They are doing lens projection, etc., to make sure everything is working as intended.” Some series are steering away from sterility; others are pursuing a “cinematic” signifier. “People want TV to be more like cinema now,” Touhey says, “so the use of anamorphic is becoming more prevalent because people associate that with cinema. … I wouldn’t agree again that it’s best for the medium, but it is an easy way to visually say, ‘This TV is more like a movie than TV.’”
In effect, television has adopted a technique that moviemakers pioneered to differentiate film from TV. One wonders whether the anamorphic lens’s association with cinema will last now that this look is becoming ubiquitous on TV. “Part of my job is to make sure that we’re trying to do things that are not just being repeated everywhere,” van Tulleken says. “I’m always taking note of the cinematographers and what is being done in the space and who is making bold directorial decisions. And you’re always [hoping] you’re not aping and [that you’re] progressing the medium.”
The good news is that the more familiar anamorphic effects are, the less off-putting they’ll be. For directors who want to reset the status quo, though, that’s also the bad news. At this rate, a sharp, pristine picture might go back to being the bolder choice. Alternatively, directors could keep cranking the anamorphic meter higher to top previous stunts.
“Arguably, Netflix’s Chilling Adventures of Sabrina took it too far,” Oseman says. “They used Panavision Ultra [Speed Golds] anamorphics for scenes involving magic, which put a Salvador Dalí–esque blur on the sides of the frame. I thought it was a daring choice, but it was very noticeable, and I know it took some viewers out of the story.”
Perhaps that’s happened in Shogun at times, too. Then again, the slight discomfort and disorientation I’ve felt while watching Shogun are what its creators intended. Maybe it’s made me identify with the characters and enriched the experience in ways of which I’m not completely conscious. It’s tough to say: We can’t compare the Shogun we got to a version of the show that’s the same except for flawless footage shot with spherical lenses. What we can say is that the Shogun we got is good. And if the blur bothers some viewers, it can’t be a big impediment: Whether partly because of or partly in spite of the lens selection, people are watching (and largely loving) the show.
If your reaction to the initial lens look was closer to tolerance than love, you’ve probably been relieved to see those effects fade across the season. That, too, was part of the plan. The choices van Tulleken, Ross, and Marks made early on “set up a sandbox that everyone could then play in,” van Tulleken says; inside that structure, subsequent cinematographers and directors have had a lot of freedom to do their own thing. As van Tulleken concludes, “This show has an evolution, it has an arc, and I really believe in the grammar of shots, that they should show the escalating arc of a scene and of a story and a series. … We kept the same anamorphic lenses, we kept the same cameras, but not every scene needed what we were doing.” As Blackthorne learns the language and the lay of the land in later episodes, the disorientation is dialed down.
If you or someone you love is still struggling with the symptoms of TV’s anamorphic phase, at least you know now that you haven’t been hallucinating. Focus (so to speak) on the positive, and practice the eightfold fence. Maybe you’ll suddenly see the wisdom in this wabi-sabi of the screen. And if you still want to break up with blurry shows, don’t feel bad about it. It’s not you, it’s TV.
It’s time to tap into the animation sensation that is Invincible for its Season 2 finale! The Midnight Boys talk about what made the season overall a little different this time around (14:08). Then they tap back into the captivating Shogun and what they think may happen leading into the finale (55:38). And finally, they take on the drama between Storm and Forge in this week’s X-Men ’97 (88:55).
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We are currently living in a time of exceptional television, as very clearly evidenced by the presence of shows like Shōgun on our screens. This is not, however, that specific story’s first time being told the visual medium, as James Clavell’s books have been adapted once before.
Based on the books by Clavell, which are in turn based on real-life events, Shōgun has become one of the most talked about series of 2024. With storylines of epic proportions, riveting dialogue, beautiful cinematography, and phenomenal acting, the show has quickly earned a reputation as one of the best shows currently streaming.
This epic series is not the first time this story has been told. In 1980 Paramount Television also adapted Clavell’s work to create a mini-series of the same title. It was the first American production to be filmed in its entirety in Japan, and only three of the Japanese actors spoke English at the time of filming. It also contained many explicit actions previously considered taboo for American television, including the showcasing of urination, a beheading, and the discussion of sexuality and suicide (Japanese seppuku).
The mini-series was a critical success as well as a commercial success with NBC reporting it was seeing its highest ever weekly ratings. It won numerous awards including three Golden Globes, three Primetime Emmys, and a People’s Choice Award. The success of the 1980 iteration continued the trend of mini-series on American television and is probably a big part of why FX decided to reboot it decades later.
While the modern version is available to watch on FX, Disney+, and Hulu, the 1980 Shōgun appears to only be available by buying the DVD set. Hopefully, with the new series’ extreme popularity, that will change soon.
Laura Pollacco (she/her) is a contributing writer here at The Mary Sue, she has a keen interest in Marvel, Lord of the Rings, and anime. She has worked for various publications including We Got This Covered, but much of her work can be found gracing the pages of print and online publications in Japan, where she resides. Outside of writing she treads the boards as an actor, is a portrait and documentary photographer, and also takes the little free time left she has to explore Japan.
Jo and Rob return to break down the sixth episode of Shogun. They discuss the effective use of flashbacks in this episode, the theatrics behind Toranaga’s political maneuvering, and how the show deftly deploys violence. Along the way, they talk about the growing jealousy that revolves around Blackthorne. Later, they’re joined by Shogun series cocreators Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo to talk about making sure the humor from the novel translated from the page to the screen, the power of Fuji’s reaction shots, why Toranaga was the perfect role for Hiroyuki Sanada to play, and much more.
Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Rob Mahoney Guests: Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo Producer: Kai Grady
The ever-busy Japanese character actor Tadanobu Asano — currently having a moment as one of the stars of Disney’s hit samurai series Shōgun — has joined the cast of Thai director Pen-ek Ratanaruang‘s upcoming culinary thriller Morte Cucina. The actor and director last collaborated two decades ago on the romantic crime film Last Life in the Universe (2003), which was Thailand’s official submission to the Oscars that year and won Asano the best actor award at the Venice Film Festival.
Set in contemporary Bangkok, Morte Cucina follows a talented young female chef named Sao who has a chance encounter with a man who sexually abused her when she was a teen. “Using her talents in the kitchen, Sao sets her plan of revenge in motion — achieving a rather unexpected result,” the film’s logline reads.
The project’s producers are keeping the nature of Asano’s role under wraps for now, but they have revealed that newcomer Thanatphon Boonsang will play the central role of Sao, while Thai stars Nopachai Chaiyanam and Kris Srepoomseth will take two of the male leads. Nopachai previously starred in Pen-ek’s 2011 crime thriller Headshot, which premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival.
Morte Cucina is co-written by Pen-ek and Kongdej Jaturanrasamee (Hunger, Faces of Anne). It’s Pen-ek’s first feature since his noir crime thriller Samui Song in 2017. Veteran, Asia-based cinematographer Christopher Doyle, best known for his collaborations with Wong Kar-wai, will lens the film.
Morte Cucina will be produced by Soros Sukhum of 185 Films (which recently produced Netflix’s Thai thriller Hunger) and Asia-based producer Conor Zorn, with Manuel Chiche from Joker Films and Alexandra Hoesdorff of Deal Productions co-producing. Goodfellas (formerly Wild Bunch) is handling international sales, aside from North America, which CAA is representing.
The film is expected to go into production in April, with the filmmakers targeting a premiere at a major European festival next year.
Nagakado’s impulsive act not only breaks societal rules and goes against combat protocol, but it heralds a destruction of the established order. Photo: Katie Yu/FX
Spoilers follow for the fourth episode of Shōgun, “The Eightfold Fence,” which premiered on FX and Hulu on March 12.
Strict etiquette, rigid ceremony, and a pervasive understanding of how to behave dictate everything in Shōgun. This is a world of genteel courtliness, in which regents exchange bows and endearments by day and send killers after one another by night in demonstrations of calculated, personal violence. There is an honor and order to all this that must be maintained for the system to function. And in the thrilling, nauseating, transformative final minutes of “The Eightfold Fence,” all of that decorum is literally blown to pieces.
For most of Shōgun’s first four episodes, political maneuvering is the narrative priority. Yes, a man is boiled alive, bandits’ throats are slit, and a three-way battle breaks out between feuding regents’ convoys in the middle of the night. Yet far more screen time is devoted to Lord Yoshii Toranaga (Hiroyuki Sanada) tricking the Council of Regents and its leader, Lord Ishido Kazunari (Takehiro Hira), into delaying their impeachment of him; the regents bickering over what to do about shipwrecked Londoner John Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis) and the Protestant threat he poses to the country’s Catholics, converted by Portuguese missionaries over the years; and Lady Toda Mariko (Anna Sawai) serving as Blackthorne’s translator and sharing his intentions and plans with her liege lord, Toranaga. At some point, Toranaga will make his move, but probably not from the little fishing village of Ajiro, where so many of his allies are hiding out, and certainly not for weeks or even months.
Until then, nearly everyone in “The Eightfold Fence” thinks they have time. Time to prepare: Mariko tells Blackthorne that Toranaga expects it will take six months for the pilot “Anjin” to train the Japanese army in “foreign tactics,” in particular how to use the cannons Toranaga claimed from Blackthorne’s ship, the Erasmus. Time to strategize: Lord Kashigi Yabushige (Tadanobu Asano), who is playing both sides of the Toranaga-Ishido rivalry, is increasingly irritated by Toranaga’s absence from Ajiro and unsure of how to prove his loyalty to Ishido, who believes Yabushige helped Toranaga escape Osaka. And time to approach a future death in the heavily ritualistic and honor-driven way that is customary to this culture in this time: Yabushige considers going to Osaka to turn himself in, knowing that the regents will, worst-case scenario, at least let him commit seppuku; Lady Usami Fuji (Moeka Hoshi) agrees to be Blackthorne’s consort for six months but plans to kill herself afterward to join her husband and son in the afterlife.
The cannon attack, though, interrupts this sense of nebulous Hereafter to ground the story in a fatal now. It’s in character for Toranaga’s son, Yoshii Nagakado (Yuki Kura), to start a war to prove himself; in all their father-son interactions, Toranaga is chastising Nagakado for his hotheadedness. It’s also in character for the scheming Lord Omi (Hiroto Kanai) to trick Nagakado into recklessly acting outside his own self-interest if it could actually benefit Omi and his uncle Yabushige. Shōgun lays the constitutional groundwork for the scene well, but there’s no way to anticipate what the final moments of the episode will actually look and sound like — how visceral, how sensorial, how graphic.
When Nagakado turns the cannonballs against Ishido’s messenger, Nebara Jozen (Nobuya Shimamoto), and his samurai, the projectiles and chain shots rip through bodies and upend the performative civility with which the regents are supposed to treat one another. Horses and people are split into pieces. Blood spurts out of where some limbs used to be, while bone sticks out of other parts. The precise aim that the cannons had previously exhibited while smashing far-off targets during training is just as effective on the living, scattering corpses haphazardly on the ground, the camera capturing the askew angles found in death. Exploding cannons and agonized screams are the soundtrack of a polite society being ushered into a new, more indiscriminately brutal age, one that Nagakado meets with foolish confidence, Omi with a nefarious grin, Blackthorne with outsider confusion, and Yabushige and Mariko with informed despair.
This raising of stakes could never have happened if Blackthorne hadn’t landed in this country, if he hadn’t brought these more advanced weapons with him, and if his very Protestant presence (and the information he shares with Toranaga about Portuguese claims on Japan) hadn’t helped spark a bitter religious conflict. The “eightfold fence” that Mariko told Blackthorne the Japanese build within themselves to guard their secret feelings from the outside world is rendered useless here; the cannon attack is too shocking, the danger it brings to Toranaga and his allies too dire, for anyone here to hide their reactions to it. To understand the impact of the episode-closing cannon attack, a more suitable comparison than the eightfold fence can be found in an earlier scene. As Mariko explained to Blackthorne after the Brit experiences his first earthquake — to the practically shrugging Mariko, “a baby”; to him, an amazing shock — “Death is in our air and sea and earth. It can come for us at any moment.” Think of Yabushige’s repeated drafting of his final will and obsession with pinpointing the moment that separates life and death: The likelihood of cataclysmic shifting has taught the Japanese that, to a certain degree, they “control nothing” — even with all the rites and traditions they use to exert some power over the unknowable, the possibility of random death is a constant.
And yet: Random death by geological happenstance isn’t the same as random death by surprise massacre. “This is not how samurai fight. You’re savages, all of you,” Jozen yells before Nagakado cuts off his head, and his shock is not necessarily at the treachery of this strike; we’ve seen ambushes, abductions, and assassination attempts in Shōgun already. But all of that violence goes on at night or behind closed doors — nowhere as brazen as on a battlefield in the middle of the day, with no announced terms, and without the approval of one’s liege lord. Nagakado’s act not only breaks myriad societal rules and goes against combat protocol, but it heralds a destruction of the established order; there’s no intimacy, no comparison of merit or speed or skill, to a cannonball offensive lodged from hundreds of yards away.
Toranaga was aghast at Blackthorne using the word belongs when describing how the Catholics consider Japan, and here we see the explosive impact of foreign interference, how an invention and ideology from another place can be more infectious than an invasion. In “The Eightfold Fence,” that friction turns combustible, serving both as a warning about breaking with tradition in a place so steeped in it and as a step forward into the next phase of the Shōgun story. War is coming! But more broadly, change is coming, and that may prove even more destructive.
Shogun, the epic series based on Jame Clavell’s novel series from the 1970s, is now streaming on Hulu and FX. However, the series is streaming on an American network for an American audience. Does that mean it’s in English, or is it subtitled?
Shogun takes place in Japan and has a largely Japanese cast, but an international focus doesn’t always mean that a show’s dialogue will be in another country’s native tongue. For example, the miniseries Chernobyl, which aired on HBO in 2019, takes place in Russia and Ukraine, but it was filmed in English. Different filmmakers make different choices when it comes to what language a series will be filmed in.
So how subtitles-intensive is Shogun?
The Japanese characters in Shogun, along with some of the non-Japanese characters like Portuguese missionaries, all speak in Japanese in the show. Their dialogue is subtitled for English audiences.
However, some of the show’s dialogue is in English—even when the characters are presumably speaking other languages. For example, the series begins on a Dutch ship, and many of the characters (both foreign and Japanese) speak Portuguese. All of these scenes are rendered in English.
Why? It’s not clear, but you could chalk it up to the fact the story is partly told from the perspective of John Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis), an English pilot who arrives on the coast of Japan aboard a derelict Dutch vessel. As Blackthorne is captured and eventually taken under the protection of Lord Yoshii Toranaga (Hiroyuki Sanada), he interacts with various characters. Blackthorne acts as an audience surrogate, taking in his new surroundings as he tries to stay alive.
If you’re able to read subtitles, it’s worth listening to the Japanese cast members’ original performances. However, if you need an English dub, then Hulu offers that option. It’s right next to the “Episodes” tab in the show’s main menu.
New episodes of Shogun drop on Hulu and FX every Tuesday at 10 p.m. Eastern.
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Experience the epic drama of Shogun, set in feudal Japan. Based on James Clavell’s bestselling novel, the 10-episode series is set in 17th-century Japan and follows Lord Yoshii Toranaga’s fight for survival when a mysterious ship triggers civil war. Created by Rachel Kondo and Justin Marks, the show boasts an acclaimed Japanese cast, including Hiroyuki Sanada, Anna Sawai, and Cosmo Jarvis. With political intrigue, thrilling action, and rich historical detail, Shogun is a must-watch cinematic masterpiece.
The show’s executive producer Justin Marks talked about the significance of black ship and said “The black ship served as the lifeline for trade between Japan and its neighbouring regions, as direct diplomacy between Japan and China was limited. Acting as intermediaries, the Portuguese and Spanish facilitated the exchange of Japanese silver for Chinese silk and vice versa. For Blackthorn, the Black Ship embodies his mission—to disrupt Spanish and Portuguese Catholic trade. His fixation on the ship drives much of his actions throughout the story, guiding his path with unwavering determination.”
Shogun also stars Tadanobu Asan, Hiroto Kanai, Takehiro Hira, Moeka Hoshi, Tokuma Nishioka, Shinnosuke, Yuki Kura, and Fumi Nikaido. Justin Marks is the executive producer and showrunner along with Michaela Clavell, Edward L. McDonnell, Michael De Luca, Kondo and Hiroyuki Sanada.
The show has been streaming on a leading OTT platform since February 28 with new episodes coming every Tuesday.