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  • How Quentin Tarantino Bent Los Angeles to His Will to Make ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’

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    The following is excerpted from The Making of Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, (Insight Editions, out October 28).

    “Rick, how are you doing with getting Hollywood Boulevard for me?” Quentin asked his location manager, Rick Schuler. “I’m doing well,” Schuler replied.

    Quentin looked at his first assistant director, Bill Clark, and looked at Schuler. “Doing well” was not going to cut it. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was a Los Angeles story, a Hollywood story, and it needed to be filmed in Los Angeles. It needed Hollywood as a backdrop. He wanted to convert Los Angeles back to 1969 — “You know, literally street by street, block by block.”

    Jay Glennie’s The Making of Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood

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    Schuler had been in discussion with the California Film Commission for weeks. Under Quentin’s gaze, he admitted, “Well, I think I’m 80 percent there.”

    “Rick, if there’s anything I can do to help you out, I’ll be willing to do that,” Quentin replied.

    Production designer Barbara Ling was also anxious to know what it was she was going to be working with. Schuler had been asking the Hollywood powers that be, responsible for the economic success of their city, to shut down eight blocks.

    “They had been, like, ‘Eight blocks? No way!’ and had said no a hundred times,” Ling recalls. “I also remember, eight blocks was freaking out the producers budget-wise.”

    Schuler had an idea how he could utilize the filmmaker’s extraordinary enthusiasm and will to best use. He had an idea he wanted to run by Bill Clark: Schuler had a meeting with the Hollywood neighborhood council. Would Quentin be willing to address them — just talk about the project? Talk about the movie, what Hollywood meant to him? It could help get things over the line.

    The day of the meeting, Schuler sprung it on Quentin and Clark that he wanted to make the filmmaker the surprise star act of his pitch and have him come in at the end. Nobody on the council would know he was there beforehand.

    “For whatever reason, Rick thought it would be best if he kept Quentin a surprise to the council members,” Clark says.

    But what was Schuler to do with Quentin in the meantime? Of course, you hide a two-time Oscar-winning writer-director in a windowless broom closet with his trusted first A.D. It is going to be only for a few minutes, right?

    Quentin took one seat, Clark the other. “I tried to keep QT entertained as best I could so he wouldn’t become irritated by sitting in this little room for so long,” Clark recalls. In the main hall, Schuler was trying to work out when he would be seen.

    When his turn on the agenda finally arrived, after he’d had a chance to warm up the panel and explain the needs of the production, Schuler said there was somebody else who wished to say a few words. “When Quentin walked in, their jaws just went straight to the floor,” Schuler recalled. “He had been hiding in the closet for nearly an hour, and I had no idea if he was going to be pissed at me! But he looked at me and I nodded, and he started talking. Without notes, he explained to them that he was brought up in Hollywood. He now owned a theater in the neighborhood. He is doing a movie about Hollywood and celebrating Hollywood and needed their backing and support.”

    The 15-strong panel’s mouths were still agape as Quentin took his leave, followed by Clark and Schuler. Summoned back later in the day, Schuler received the news he had been hoping for: unanimous approval to shut down Hollywood Boulevard. Quentin’s petition had won the day.

    Barbara Ling and her production design team could now go about transforming Hollywood back to how it was in 1969. During their early exploratory chats, a line from Quentin resonated with her: “Imagine an 8-year-old boy lying in the back of his parents’ car. Well, the movie is his point of view.” It was this line, sparse in creative detail but evocative, that spurred her on to bring Quentin’s vision to the screen. The race was on.

    To re-create the Hollywood Boulevard of his youth, Quentin wanted realism as far as the eye could see. Movie star Rick Dalton (Leonardo DiCaprio) and his stunt double, Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt), had to drive a length and take the viewer back to ’69. Eight blocks would see them fine. However, for eight blocks, a discussion was needed.

    At all times, Quentin wanted for his partners — those who have financed the movie — to make back their investment. It is a matter of pride that he brings his movies in on time and on budget. And so, when producer David Heyman broached the idea of cutting back from eight blocks to a financially manageable three, he was expecting pushback from an auteur director who would stop at nothing to have his vision brought to the screen unimpeded.

    “But, do you know what?” Heyman says. “He was dreamy, just dreamy. There were challenging moments — some bits were not easy — but he was like a teddy bear. I wish all directors were like Quentin.”

    Taking over city blocks, whether three or eight of them, comes at a cost, and liaising with the various business owners did not come cheap. “There was a feeling that if you mentioned Quentin’s name, then everybody would open up, give you access,” Schuler says. “But these locations see Quentin’s name and Sony as the studio, and then you have Leo and Brad driving down Hollywood Boulevard, and their thinking is there is money in the pot. It always comes down to money. That caused friction with the budget.”

    “It was a location-heavy show, I know, but the money leaving the production offices was huge,” production manager Georgia Kacandes adds. “The fees had to be negotiated down.”

    Like Quentin, Barbara Ling was a child of the city. She got it. Ling was older than Quentin. She had used fake IDs to enter many of the clubs and bars Quentin had written about. She had hitchhiked along the winding streets of L.A. She was an Angeleno. Her excitement matched that of Quentin, who could not wait to get going. He wanted to smell the Hollywood of 1969. From the get-go, Ling knew that Quentin wanted to replicate 1969 for real — none of this fake digital nonsense, it had to be all in camera. If Rick, Cliff and Sharon were there, you’d best believe that they were really there. “I don’t ever want to be standing in front of a greenscreen or a bluescreen ever, Barbara!”

    “Good!”

    This chimed with Ling, who had come from a world of theater. You had to be able to touch it. Yes, she got it.

    “But the sad thing with Los Angeles is that they just can’t stop ripping things down!” she laments. “L.A.’s just a very nonpreservation town, unfortunately. But the exciting thing with Quentin is, he wanted the locations practical. Look, he had no problem with using visual effects to erase something that was not in keeping with the era. CGI helps you create downward: You can make a street go longer, but when it comes to close-up, I just think it fails.”

    “Ultimately, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was so well-received, and a lot of that was due to everything being practical,” Ling says. “Careers were dumbed down a bit by CGI — particularly, CGI in foreground. You can just tell you can’t touch that building. You can walk by it, but you can’t touch it.”

    Leonardo DiCaprio was transported back in time. “I have driven up and down Sunset Boulevard my whole life,” he says. “To go to school, my mom would drive me, and I saw the changing of Los Angeles. During the late ’70s, I would deliver comic books with my dad on Sunset. We’d go to head shops — bong shops — and this kind of thing. People were wearing tie-dye.

    Rick and his driver, Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt), at Musso’s bar.

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    “Well, what Quentin did was so spectacular,” the actor adds, marveling. “He redressed those blocks. I mean, that was a monumental moment and a great historic cinematic memory for me. No CGI — every fucking storefront was transformed. It was like I was a kid again.”

    DiCaprio, knowing that his dad would get a kick out of seeing Hollywood transformed, invited him and his wife down for the day. “My dad has long white-gray hair and is still a hippie, right?” he says. “So I told him and his Sikh wife to come down: ‘Just wear your normal clothes — you’ll fit right in.’ “

    Pulling onto Sunset, Rick’s mood is not lifted at the sight of the town he calls home being overrun by swarms of “fucking hippies!” Pitt, driving, brought the car to a stop at the junction.

    “That’s my dad right there — my dad and my stepmom,” DiCaprio told him. Pitt laughed, and they waited to get the nod to pull out onto Hollywood Boulevard. DiCaprio looked at a smiling Pitt and said, “No, no, that is my dad.”

    “Ha-ha! Yeah, right,” his disbelieving co-star replied.

    “Brad, I’m not joking! It’s my dad. He’s right there. I invited him down because he fits right into 1969.”

    “Wait — you’re fucking serious?”

    “Yes, that is my father right there. Hey, Dad!”

    “Hey, Leo!”

    A giggling DiCaprio turned to his disbelieving driver.

    “Ha! See, I told you!”

    Booth speeds down Hollywood Boulevard.

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    Sharon Tate (Margot Robbie) is running errands across Hollywood, including picking up a first-edition copy of Thomas Hardy’s Tess of the d’Urbervilles for Roman Polanski from the Larry Edmunds Bookshop. This is Quentin paying homage to a real-life event, having learned that Sharon gifted a copy of the book to Roman shortly before her death.

    “Oh my goodness, Quentin had every shop redesigned, and that really was a bookshop I walked into, and then I got to touch the Maltese Falcon statuette,” Robbie says, marveling. Seen in a bookshop reminiscent of the one Humphrey Bogart’s character visits in another John Huston classic, The Big Sleep, the statuette was designed by Fred Sexton for The Maltese Falcon. Its owner? Leonardo DiCaprio, who bought it at auction in 2010.

    Margot Robbie walking on the streets of Hollywood was proving quite the draw, but no matter who the star is in a Quentin Tarantino movie, the director is the biggest draw. Crowds were forming. When permission to film in Hollywood was granted, a prerequisite with such a high-profile production on the city’s streets was safety. Clark and Schuler set about hiring a collection of production assistants — essentially, people with charisma who knew how to engage with others and make sure they were paying attention. Bicycle barricades were put in place, and when Clark called, “Switch sides,” a hundred people effortlessly shifted from one side of the road to the other. It helped that the PAs had a secret weapon in Quentin Tarantino.

    Cinematographer Bob Richardson (seated) tracks Margot Robbie, as Sharon Tate.

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    “It worked like a charm,” Clark says, laughing. “Quentin is amazing because he turned to the crowd and spoke with them just back and forth a little bit,” Schuler says, marveling. “It came naturally to Quentin. He loves making movies, and to him it was evident that the crowds that had turned up to watch him work loved movies, too. After speaking with them and signing a few autographs, he simply said, “I’ve got to go back to work — I’d really appreciate if you were quiet.” Silence prevailed.

    Hey, Mark, would you ever be interested in my filming here sometime?”

    “Hey, Quentin, of course— whatever you need. Just let me know.” Quentin was at the counter bar at Musso & Frank Grill, one of his favorite watering holes since he was a young kid. This particular evening, he was enjoying a martini with Christoph Waltz.

    A few years later, Mark Echeverria, Musso & Frank’s COO, received an email from location manager Rick Schuler explaining that he was working on a project with Quentin that involved taking Hollywood back to 1969, and that Quentin wished to shoot a portion of the movie in Musso & Frank. Schuler explained further that, of course, there would be no need for any alterations to the restaurant. It would remain the same.

    “That’s the beauty of Musso & Frank,” Echeverria says. “Our restaurant has not changed, and hardly anything had to be done to revert our restaurant to 1969.” Ling concedes from a production design perspective there wasn’t a lot to do. “Oh, they’re pretty iconic interiors,” says Barbara. “I mean, we had to change the cash registers and things like that. Tina Charad came in and reproduced all the menus from 1969.”

    “Ultimately, I made my recommendation, and that was we should support Quentin,” Echeverria recalls. “I explained how the movie was on brand and of the respect Quentin and Rick had showed us by coming so far in advance. It was, for me, a no-brainer.

    “Most of our bartenders and employees have a personal relationship with Quentin, as he has been such a regular, and it was more of shooting something with a friend — but, yes, ultimately, we all knew the magnitude of what was going on.”

    DiCaprio and Tarantino prepare a scene in Rick Dalton’s home.

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    Three years after Frank Toulet opened the doors to his restaurant on Hollywood Boulevard in 1919, Joseph Musso joined the operation, and the now-famous grill, with its red leather booths, mahogany bar and first public phone booth, quickly became the go-to place for celebrity Angelenos — a real home away from home for the likes of Charlie Chaplin, Clark Gable, Marilyn Monroe, Frank Sinatra and Elizabeth Taylor, who mixed cheek-by-jowl with such literary giants as F. Scott Fitzgerald, Ernest Hemingway, Dorothy Parker and John Steinbeck. The same year Toulet and Musso joined forces, Buster Keaton used the restaurant as a location for his film Cops. It would quickly become a favorite location for filmmakers, and Quentin knew he wanted his name associated with its illustrious past.

    After Rick’s meeting at Musso & Frank with his agent (Al Pacino), Cliff drives the actor back home to his house on Cielo Drive. Rick sets about fixing himself a drink or eight, and his neighbors, Roman and Sharon, leave for a night of fun with the fun people of Hollywood.

    Rick Dalton (Leonardo DiCaprio) meets with his agent (Al Pacino) in a scene shot at Musso & Frank Grill.

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    Cliff is in his Volkswagen Karmann Ghia, heading home. His smooth, almost sensual, and yet authoritative gear changes see the stuntman treat the bend in the road as though it is a tight turn on a racecourse to be navigated. Accelerating out of Cielo Drive, the small car propels down the road, leaving behind the acrid stench of burnt rubber in the night air.

    A decorated war veteran, Cliff understands risks, and what would be for some a ponderous journey home from work takes him no time at all — all befitting a stuntman who knows how to handle a car at speed. Quentin, as ever, wanted to see his actor’s face in the shot.

    “There was no way Brad was going to let somebody else behind the wheel,” cinematographer Bob Richardson insists. “That was never a question from Brad. I’m betting he was doing 50 — he was just flying down there. We had a camera mounted behind him, and the camera car was struggling to keep up with him. Look, Brad was fully in control, but he was fast.”

    “OK, no problem for Brad to be driving,” Quentin’s longtime stunt coordinator Zoë Bell agrees, “but Brad is one of the leads, and so one of the things that I fought for was that we had at least a square. That is four stunt drivers who flank Brad. They’re moving in and out so if he fucks up or one of the precision drivers does — precision drivers are basically extras who are qualified drivers, but I cannot speak of their skill — if one of those precision drivers fucks up or Brad’s brakes fail, a couple of stunt drivers can come together in a pincer and nudge a car to a stop. They’re always alert. They have those instincts.

    “It is hard to place, to justify, the cost on this,” Bell says. “Brad is a lead actor, one of the stars of the movie. You’re obviously thinking of Brad’s safety, but also, if anything happens to him, it will have consequences for Quentin, the production, and blow back on me. No, I wanted everything covered.”

    The stunt coordinator may have been looking out for Brad, but his speedy driving in the Karmann Ghia nearly caused a casualty. “I nearly drove over Zoë — thankfully she has calisthenic reflexes,” laughs Pitt.

    If Cliff was going to get on the freeway, then Quentin would need a freeway for him to get onto. Schuler had to pull in some favors from his friends at the California Highway Patrol. He had worked closely with them organizing access for the movie CHiPs, and he scooted up to Sacramento for another round of negotiations.

    “I told them that we wanted to shut down the Hollywood freeway and the 101 freeway and showed them the two exits,” Schuler recalls. “I explained to them that we needed to have rolling breaks — rolling breaks are the cops holding the traffic — between the hours we needed, slowing things down in both directions, so it was limited.”

    Quentin would be asked if the trucks and cars whizzing by Brad Pitt were CGI.

    “No, no, fuck no,” he would insist. “Those motherfuckers were all real.”

    Pitt, as Cliff Booth, lies back in his character’s Volkswagen Karmann Ghia.

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    Brad was just buzzing that he had a once-in-a-lifetime experience “to cruise down Hollywood Boulevard with no traffic or speed limit! And in a cool car. Well, it is a Q.T. film, so it is never gonna be a shit box!”

    It is very clear what I said, what I asked for. What is to interpret? So how come we are not doing it?” First A.D. Bill Clark had heard similar refrains from Quentin over the years, but here, he was truly saddened. His director had a shot in mind, and he needed a suitable location to make it a reality — and it was proving elusive.

    “Look, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is the only movie I have written where I started with the end,” Quentin explains. “I thought, ‘What if Mr. Indestructible was over at his actor’s house and that actor lived next door to Sharon Tate, and Tex and the girls went to that house instead?’ And then the line came to me: ‘Those hippies sure picked the wrong motherfucking house that night.’ I thought it was a neat idea,” he adds. “But to pull it off, we had to be able to do two things: We had to have the scenes in the front and the gates to the neighboring house to the side. You had to have a sense of the two houses together, and I had to do the shot in the backyard on Rick and his pool, and then the camera goes down into where you see Sharon and Roman drive away, and then I needed that last shot.

    “That shot was in my head from the get-go, but we just weren’t finding what I needed, and I am not being shown what I am having in my head,” Quentin recalls. “We had to find two houses whereby we could pull it off. I was trying to make something work from what I was being shown.”

    “Quentin got very close to begrudgingly making a compromise,” says Clark, “and I wasn’t happy about that because ultimately, the movie was going to suffer. It is Quentin’s job to be dissatisfied and to push us. He was getting flustered with the places we were seeing — nothing was right.”

    Location scouting is a long and arduous trek. You have to put in the hard yards to find the pearls. But the houses the team was viewing were not getting any better — they were getting worse. Clark decided to take matters into his own hands and get back on the road. He gave cinematographer Bob Richardson a call.

    “Let’s make it happen, White Devil!”

    This attitude typified why Quentin likes Bill by his side. “That’s Bill,” Quentin says. “He says to Bob, ‘We’re not finding what Quentin wants. Well, we know exactly what Quentin wants, so let’s start driving around the Hollywood Hills until we find the fucking houses we need.’ “

    Clark resorted to poring over Google Maps and satellite views. He knew that it was going to call for a cold scout, requiring them to just knock on doors. So after another busy wrap on yet another scouting day, he and Richardson, maps on laps, set off.

    During two days of intense driving, they pulled into a cul-de-sac off Laurel Canyon. There was a frisson of excitement. They saw a gate. They saw a house with a drive. Turning to Richardson, Clark said, “That’s a cool house.” And then the front door opened to reveal a woman bringing out a trash can. They hopped out of their car, and Clark quickly made the introductions.

    “Hey!” Bill called out. “Hi! This is Bob, and I’m Bill.”

    Explaining who they were and what they were up to, they asked whether she owned the house. “Yes,” she replied. “My renters are moving out, and I’m just clearing things up.” The levels of excitement just went through the roof.

    “You’re kidding!”

    If she was renting out the house, then they could rent it on behalf of Quentin Tarantino, right? Turning, they spied the gates to the neighboring property. “What’s up with those gates?” “Oh, that guy used to be an actor. They’re really nice people. They’re away on vacation right now.”

    Fuck!

    Looking though the woman’s door, they spotted a swimming pool. Clark and Richardson looked at each other and asked the silent question: “That’s Rick pool, right?” The pair could not contain themselves, and they obtained an invitation to have a look around the house.

    Facades along three blocks of Hollywood Boulevard were replaced to take L.A. back to the ’60s. The Larry Edmunds Bookshop, the Pussycat Theater and Peaches were all re-created.

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    Quentin could see his final shot taking shape. Clark and Richardson wanted to get inside the neighbor’s property. Ling wanted to get inside, and you’d best believe that Quentin wanted to see what was behind those gates and up that drive.

    “Look, it is as I often say,” Clark proclaims. “God is a Tarantino fan.”

    As they were all thinking about the possibilities of the location, up drove a BMW into the cul-de-sac. Schuler’s years of location scouting told him that this dude was a player in their forthcoming story.

    Pulling up alongside the minivan Schuler and Quentin sat in, the owner of the BMW rolled down his window, and Schuler did the same. Now, both participants in the drama could see into each other’s vehicles. BMW Dude, spotting Quentin, of course recognized one of the town’s favorite sons.

    Schuler began his spiel: “I’m here with Quentin Tarantino, and I’m interested in your house. Can we talk about the new Quentin Tarantino movie?”

    “Sure!”

    The automatic gates opened. It was Hollywood — of course they did.

    Excerpt text and images © 2025 Insight Editions. Provided courtesy of Insight Editions & The Story Factory, from Jay Glennie’s The Making of Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood (out Oct. 28).

    ***

    The Making of the Making of

    How author Jay Glennie earned Tarantino’s approval — and the exclusive right to tell the behind-the-scenes stories of all the director’s films.  

    Jay Glennie’s The Making of Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood

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    “I was saying to Q last night that these books are written for two people, me and him,” Jay Glennie says over Zoom from his home office in rural England, a cattle shed stacked floor-to-ceiling with movie history books. “My assumption being that if we both got a kick out of it, somebody else will as well.” Q in this instance refers to Quentin Tarantino, with whom Glennie has been toiling away for hundreds of hours on a new coffee table book on the making of 2019’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, from which the adjoining article is excerpted. 

    The final product, published by Insight Editions in the U.S. and Titan Books in the U.K., arrives everywhere books are sold on Oct. 28. The 500-page volume is brimming with costumes, props and set photos, new interviews with Tarantino and the cast — established A-listers like Leo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie, as well as future ones like Mikey Madison, Austin Butler and Sydney Sweeney — and behind-the-scenes anecdotes from the production team. 

    It’s all woven together with 170,000 words of accompanying text by Glennie, a humble cinephile who has gained an international reputation as the Cecil B. DeMille of “making of” movie books. It was one of those — 2019’s One Shot: The Making of The Deer Hunter — that drew the admiration of Tarantino. “Jay’s book brought back to me the way my dear departed friend Michael Cimino’s picture has — since the day of its release — held a significant place in my heart and memory and has been my barometer for artistic achievement inside the Hollywood studio system and memory,” the director writes in his intro to the new book.

    “So we’ve got emails going, and we’re on a Zoom, a few bottles of wine consumed either end, and next thing you know, I’m booking a flight to Los Angeles,” Glennie recalls of his first conversation with the director. “Suddenly we’re doing 10 books together.” 

    The Making of Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood features a “9” on its spine. Nine more books are planned, one for each of Tarantino’s films — including his still unannounced 10th and (allegedly) final project. The next installment, about the making of Inglourious Basterds, is already nearing completion, while the next three in the series are slated to be Django Unchained, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. — SETH ABRAMOVITCH

    This story appeared in the Sept. 18 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. Click here to subscribe.

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  • Maxxxine: What Ryan Murphy Wishes He Could Do

    Maxxxine: What Ryan Murphy Wishes He Could Do

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    Over the past decade, Ryan Murphy has positioned himself as the “go-to” for all things campy/pop culture-oriented. More than that, all things “retro” pop culture-oriented. Hence, “vintage”-favoring shows from the “Murphy factory” that include Feud, Pose, Hollywood, Halston, American Crime Story, Dahmer and, lately, just about every season of American Horror Story. It’s the latter series, still arguably his most well-known, that has lately favored returning to the Decade of Excess. Namely, AHS: 1984 and AHS: NYC. And yes, a considerable amount of his work has included the dissection of the Hollywood machine, its mercilessness and its tendency toward sexism, racism, cultism and all the other bad isms. Case in point, AHS: Hotel, which also frequently sets its stage in an Old Hollywood setting and showcases Richard Ramirez as a character (as is also the case in AHS: 1984).

    All of this is to say that Murphy has been infiltrating, for some time, the same themes and time period that Ti West’s Maxxxine—the third film in a trilogy that rounds out X and Pearl—explores through the same horror/slasher-tinged lens. Except that Maxxxine achieves what Murphy only wishes he could do. Never quite “landing the plane,” so to speak, on most of his projects. The ideas are there, sure, but not the artful, satisfying execution required to make them as great as they could be. And, speaking of landing planes, as we join Maxine Minx (Mia Goth), formerly Maxine Miller, in “Tinseltown, California” six years after the bloodbath (or Texas Pornsaw Massacre) that ensued while she was just trying to make a skin flick in the middle of nowhere, we see that she’s got herself a little job at a titty bar near the L.A. airport called The Landing Strip. Only Maxine isn’t working the pole so much as going into a back area for “Flight Crew Only,” where all the pornos are filmed.

    This is where she goes after auditioning for her first “proper” movie, a horror sequel called The Puritan II. An audition she knows she nailed, and told all the girls waiting outside in the casting line as much, too. That they all might as well go home. Of course, that’s the thing about Hollywood: every aspiring actress is hungry, hot and convinced they’re better than all the other girls she’s competing with. But Maxine is “different,” as they say. Special. That once-in-a-blue-moon kind of actress with “it” factor (or “X” factor, in this scenario). A star. Indeed, the word “star” and what it means in Hollywood is immediately addressed at the beginning of Maxxxine with a title card touting the Bette Davis quote, “In this business, until you’re known as a monster, you’re not a star.”

    Maxine is already a monster waiting to sacrifice herself to the Hollywood beast, it’s just that most people don’t know what she’s been willing to do in the past in order to quite literally make it. Not even her best friend and the only guy in town not trying to fuck her (as he says), Leon (Moses Sumney). To be sure, apart from her agent, Teddy Knight, “Esq.” (Giancarlo Esposito), there are few other people in Hollywood that Maxine can count on (and maybe it says something that only two men she trusts aren’t white). Sure, she has “coworkers,” like Amber James (Chloe Farnworth) and Tabby Martin (Halsey, who isn’t exactly “L.A. enough” for this movie), that she occasionally commiserates with, but, by and large, Maxine is out there on her own. And with the specter of Richard Ramirez (night)stalking the plot (just as Murphy would have it). For it’s 1985, the height of his murderous rampage, and news reports urging L.A. residents to stay vigilant and avoid going out late at night are constant.

    Maxine doesn’t seem to mind though, convinced she’s already dealt with a psychotic killer once before, so what’s another to her? When she tells Tabby she can “handle herself” walking home, Tabby ripostes, “Said every dead girl in Hollywood.” Tabby is also the one to point out that she supposed Elizabeth Short a.k.a. the Black Dahlia never would have become famous if she hadn’t been killed, so maybe it isn’t such a bad thing. You know, for publicity.

    That Ramirez’s crimes were fueled by his dogged belief that he was Satan’s “foot soldier,” put on this Earth to carry out vicious and brutal murders in the name of the Dark Lord only adds to the near-boiling-point sense of moral panic that was simmering in America in the eighties. As West himself remarked, he wanted to “embrace the darker side of eighties movies. A lot of people think of eighties movies and think of John Hughes or they think of leg warmers and big hairdos and things like that, but that’s not all the eighties was. And so, to set a story in Hollywood, I really wanted to embrace the absurdity that is Hollywood and contrast that there’s this incredibly glamorous place…but then there’s a sleazy, darker underbelly. And 1985 in particular was a very unique year because there was a lot of moral outcry in the States about the type of movies that were being made, the type of music that was being made, and also in the summer of 1985, there was a serial killer, a satanic serial killer, in Los Angeles that they couldn’t catch, and the way that they were trying to advertise and trying to get people to help find him was by putting him in the news and newspaper, so hopefully that, by sort of making him famous, people would help find him.”

    Undeniably, notoriety-based fame was becoming more and more of a “thing” in the latter part of the twentieth century, as not-so-talented people still wanted to secure what Andy Warhol dubbed their fifteen minutes of fame. So why not get it through more nefarious means? At the beginning of the movie, West wields archival footage of the day, ranging from Ronald Reagan saying that America’s glory years aren’t behind it to Twisted Sister’s Dee Snider giving a speech at a Senate hearing about labeling “offensive” music with what would eventually become the Parental Advisory sticker. In another clip, a mother complains about buying her daughter the Purple Rain album, only to realize too late that something as explicit as “Darling Nikki” was on it. The overarching motif? Parents of the eighties were appalled by a world increasingly unconcerned with not only desensitizing their children, but making them grow up far too fast. Sexualizing them far too fast.

    In a decade like the 1950s, many believed it was “easier” to protect their children from the dangers of falling prey to “Satan” and “sin.” And, sure, maybe it was in terms of “salacious” content being far less dense at a time when TV and “rock n’ roll” music were still in germinal, analog stages for dissemination. But that didn’t mean those children who wanted to “seek out” trouble couldn’t still find it anyway. Like Maxine herself, who, despite being a preacher’s daughter, found her way toward “transgression” in spite of all her father’s indoctrination. And yes, Ernest Miller (Simon Prast) is once again featured prominently via a home movie from 1959 at the beginning of Maxxxine. A clip that smacks of Bette Davis as Baby Jane interacting with her own father in What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? It is in this early “movie” of Maxine that she first gloms onto the mantra, “I will not accept a life I do not deserve.” Imparted to her by Ernest, the fire-and-brimstone televangelist (a so-called profession that would ramp up in the eighties).

    Ernest’s specter is as prominent as Ramirez’s, which is to be expected considering X ended with him proselytizing about his daughter’s wayward existence. How she was taken from his “loving home into the hands of devils.” In 1979, those devils might have been pornographers, but, in 1985, it’s Hollywood in general, itself no longer abashed about being the biggest pornographer in the game, selling sex onscreen in order to compete with all the other media and mediums that had come about since its Golden Age. And right there in the center of it all on Hollywood Boulevard is Maxine Minx herself. For, in addition to working at The Landing Strip, she also works nights at a peep show called Hollywood Show World. A woman willing to do “whatever it takes.” But her interests are increasingly focused on the “prize” of “real” stardom. Which is why she’s over the moon when the director of The Puritan II, Elizabeth Bender (Elizabeth Debicki), casts her as the lead.

    Bender (whose last name could very well be a nod to John Bender [Judd Nelson] in The Breakfast Club) knows she’s taking a big gamble on Maxine, and that, as she tells her, “Hollywood is prejudiced against artists.” The machine, instead, prefers to keep churning out the things they know are safe, and will keep audiences from being outraged. And, in 1985, audiences are outraged amid the moral panic that’s sweeping the nation. So outraged that they’re willing to show up outside the studio and picket against its “filthy” content. Including fare like The Puritan II. That everyone is well-aware of Maxine’s porn background only adds fuel to the fire. Nonetheless, Elizabeth can sense both a hunger and a star quality in Maxine that she’s willing to stick her neck out for—even though it could mean that neck being positioned on the chopping block if Maxine fucks up.

    Unfortunately for both women, this is the exact moment when Maxine’s grisly night in Texas comes back to haunt her, with a private investigator going by the assumed name of John Labat (Kevin Bacon) threatening Maxine and her big break with a duplicated tape of the porno she made while staying in the guesthouse at Howard (Stephen Ure) and Pearl’s sequestered farm. But more than that, Labat knows how to pin the crime she committed on her. This, obviously, takes her mind off what it needs to be on, which is becoming the character in The Puritan II, a horror flick that takes place in the 1950s. Because, in true Ti West meta fashion, Elizabeth tells Maxine that she wants to really say something with this movie, that though the fifties seemed like this idyllic, picturesque time in America, the truth was that it was just as seedy as people think it is now.

    This echoes West’s sentiments about people in the present still romanticizing the eighties as a better, more “innocent” time despite all the unseemly behavior going on just beneath the surface. Which is exactly why West brought up the ultimately wholesome nature of John Hughes movies as a major emblem of the decade, belying the fact that this was a time of horrific serial killings, the advent of AIDS, systemic discrimination as buttressed by the Reagan administration and the next wave of political scandals mired in sex/infidelity-related shaming (see: Gary Hart and Donna Rice). To this end, although not a Hughes movie, St. Elmo’s Fire has a constant running appearance in Maxxxine, always displayed on the movie theater marquee near Miss Minx’s apartment. And then, of course, the John Parr theme, “St. Elmo’s Fire (Man In Motion),” plays on the radio as Maxine drives the streets of L.A. Funnily enough, that would also be the summer that David Blum branded this group of young actors frequently known for appearing together and/or in John Hughes movies as the “Brat Pack.”

    With West creating a parallel, in many ways, between the 1950s and the 1980s, it bears noting that, when the fifties came to a close, it was as though that thinly-maintained veneer of “politesse” started to crumble in the next new decade. This couldn’t have been better exemplified than in the release of Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho in September of 1960, the same year a “heathen Democrat” like JFK was elected president. In contrast, the eighties commenced with one of the most conservative presidents since Eisenhower. Elizabeth reminds Maxine that there was moral outrage in those Eisenhower years, too. The kind of outrage that transferred easily onto Psycho, an unheard of kind of film in that era. Elizabeth adds that Hitchcock was of course vindicated and further hailed as an artistic genius once the shock and furor surrounding the movie died down. As a result, the film “set a new level of acceptability for violence, deviant behavior and sexuality in American films, and has been considered to be one of the earliest examples of the slasher film genre.” With Janet Leigh paving the way for an actress like Jamie Lee Curtis to parlay her own career into a “respectable” one after starring in 1978’s Halloween. And yes, as soon as Maxine gets the part, she goes to the video store where Leon works to ask him to name five movie stars who got their start in horror. He rattles off Jamie Lee Curtis, John Travolta, Demi Moore and Brooke Shields before Maxine interjects, “Maxine Fucking Minx.” Marilyn Chambers is mentioned in this exchange, too, and 1985 was a big year for her in terms of getting arrested (in San Francisco and Cleveland, respectively) for “promoting prostitution” and “performing lewd acts” in a public place.

    In any case, it’s Maxine’s way of telling Leon she’s on her way to the top, that everything is finally falling into place. Save for this unpleasant little “Nightstalker” of her own. And not just the Buster Keaton lookalike (played by Zachary Mooren) from Hollywood Boulevard whose junk she ends up crushing with her boot when he tries to attack her with a knife in an alleyway (this and many other elements reminding viewers of the Quentin Tarantino style—with Once Upon A Time in Hollywood being the most obvious of his films to compare Maxxxine to). No, there’s some other sinister force at work trying to hold her dreams back because that force itself finds her to be the sinister one. The “sinful,” “godless,” “amoral” monster further contributing to Hollywood’s grotesque power. Its chokehold over so many other “young girls” (though, in Hollywood, young tends to be the age of twenty and under) willing to do anything to get a place in the spotlight.

    Just six years ago, Maxine was still that girl, telling Wayne (Martin Henderson), her “producer” boyfriend who orchestrated their film shoot, “I want the whole world to know my name. Like Lynda Carter or some shit.” And yes, Wonder Woman (or rather, someone dressed as her) does make a cameo on Hollywood Boulevard in Maxxxine. With such callbacks to the other movies in the X universe also being notable—for example, when, standing on Theda Bera’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Maxine puts her cigarette out on it. This, of course, is a nod to the alligator in Pearl being named Theda, for Pearl lived her own youth during the heyday of the silent movie star’s reign. What’s more, her subtle presence in the film is of importance because she was considered an scandalous sex symbol of the then-new medium called film. Other connections to non-X trilogy movies go back to John Hughes yet again, with a scene toward the finale of Maxxxine opting to soundtrack her red carpet arrival with New Order’s “Shellshock,” which also features prominently in the Hughes-penned Pretty in Pink as Duckie (Jon Cryer) rides his bike obsessively near Andie’s (Molly Ringwald) house and follows her to Iona’s (Annie Potts) apartment in Chinatown.

    “Knowing” references such as these are also in keeping with the Ryan Murphy style, but something about the way West employs it doesn’t feel quite as self-congratulatory (perhaps a euphemism for masturbatory). Case in point, the Judy Garland allusions not just in the coroner (Toby Huss) “quipping” to Detective Torres (Bobby Cannavale) that “two homos cruising each other near Judy Garland’s grave” found the latest pair of bodies with pentagrams engraved on them (sometimes a signature of Ramirez), but also in the costuming Maxine wears at the end of the movie as her character in The Puritan II. Although Elizabeth gushes that she looks like a “Hitchcock blonde,” her dress is decidedly Dorothy Gale-coded. She’s finally made it to Oz and she “never wants it to end.” Not like movies themselves do.

    And even if “the wizard” might turn out to be disappointing, Maxine can handle the skin-deep nature of things that only seem real in Hollywood. Like the Psycho house itself, a set she runs to when trying to escape the clutches of the persistent Labat. When she opens the front door to keep running, there is nothing actually there—nothing actually inside (save for her hallucination of the elderly version of Pearl). All there really is to it is the façade. This also being something Elizabeth comments on to Maxine when taking her for a little ride/pep talk in one of those studio golf carts for the first time: how Hollywood can make something appear so real that the illusion is almost the exact same as the real thing. Begging the question: who cares what’s real, anyway? Not when it’s about how the images and illusions make a person feel.

    At the beginning of X, Wayne said to everyone in the car, “No ma’am, we don’t need Hollywood. These types of pictures turn regular folks into stars. We’re gonna do it all ourselves.” To a certain extent, that’s what Maxine has been doing all along—everything herself, whatever it takes. But in the end, she still needs the approval of the Hollywood Establishment in order for her hard work to be recognized in a mainstream setting. Through all The Neon Demon-esque debauchery/macabre competition, and the onslaught of faux moral outrage, she proves what Pearl never could: “I’m a star!” (Or, as Maxine says in the mirror, “You’re a fuckin’ movie star!”) And, as an added cherry on top, she even gets to see Lily “Emily in Paris” Collin’s chopped-up body roll down a staircase.

    So, to quote the Maxine of X after she finally offs Pearl and then snorts some cocaine in celebration: “Praise the fuckin’ Lord.” Jesus was on her side rather than that of the moralists, after all. And yes, Maxine Minx definitely needs to play Mary Magdalene at some point in her career. No, make it the dual role of Mary Magdalene and the Virgin Mary à la Goth playing Maxine and Pearl.

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  • The Fall Guy Blows Up Tom Cruise’s Braggadocio and Quentin Tarantino’s Tributes to Stuntmen

    The Fall Guy Blows Up Tom Cruise’s Braggadocio and Quentin Tarantino’s Tributes to Stuntmen

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    As far as movies that acknowledge the importance of stuntmen (because no one thinks of this as a profession for stuntwomen, clearly), the only one of mainstream note—up until now—has been Death Proof (unfortunately for Drew Barrymore, The Stand In doesn’t qualify). The Quentin Tarantino-directed film that was part of 2007’s Grindhouse double feature (which commenced with Robert Rodriguez’s Planet Terror), wherein Kurt Russell plays the part of Stuntman Mike (and there is actually some play for a stuntwoman in the form of Zoë Bell). Like David Leitch’s The Fall Guy, Death Proof delights in its cleverness and meta-ness, but in a way that isn’t, shall we say, quite as fun. Though Tarantino surely thought that “sweet revenge” ending was all the fun any audience could want. But screenwriter Drew Pearce seems to be aware that they want something more than “Tarantino cleverness”—they want some fucking Ryan Gosling “hey girl”-style romance peppered in. With a dash of Tom Cruise roasting thrown into the mix, too. And that’s exactly what they get. 

    Starting from the beginning, Gosling as Colt Seavers delivers on both ingredients, with one of the first scenes consisting of Colt being told that Tom Ryder (Aaron Taylor-Johnson, making better movies than his wife at the moment), “the biggest action star on the planet,” wants to speak with him. The name alone is already a dead giveaway that this is a major troll on Cruise, who has often boasted about doing his own stunts. This includes declaring one of the bigger stunts in Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning (namely, driving a motorcycle off a roughly four-thousand-foot high structure) to be “far and away the most dangerous thing I’ve ever attempted.”

    Cruise’s long-running insistence that he does all his own stunts was parodied as far back as the 2000 MTV Movie Awards, during which a segment centered on Cruise’s supposedly nonexistent stunt double was featured, with Ben Stiller playing “Tom Crooze,” the stuntman in question. Presented as a behind-the-scenes documentary, even John Woo appears in it to say, “Tom Cruise does most of his own stunts. So he doesn’t really need a stunt double. But we make good use of the other Tom Cruise.” Meanwhile, The Fall Guy makes good use of both Tom Cruise (jokes) and the actor that’s clearly based on him and his ego: Tom Ryder. What’s more, seeing as how Pearce is credited as coming up with the story for Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation (the fifth installment in the film series), the amount of Tom Cruise-related wisecracks feels particularly pointed. Almost like Pearce is putting him in his place for having such arrogance. To that point, we see what happens to Colt as a result of his own so-called hubris (that is, in Tom Ryder’s estimation, who never, never wants to be overshadowed—least of all by his stunt double).

    Although Gosling has previously starred in movies heavy with action (including Drive), this is his first proper “Hollywood action movie” (even if action-comedy). One that, incidentally, pokes fun at the Hollywood action movie (complete with an over-bloated third act). And yes, it’s surprising that it took Gosling this long to become an action hero (in lieu of his usual anti-hero) considering this was the boy compelled to bring steak knives to school and throw them at classmates thanks to inspiration from First Blood. The sense of homage in general to action movies past is a constant presence in The Fall Guy as well, whether including scenes of famous stunts from classic movies, mentioning that stunt work doesn’t qualify for having an Oscar category despite being the backbone of most major films or simply quoting action movies in general. This last form of reverence for the stuntman being an ongoing bit between Colt and his friend/stunt coordinator, Dan Tucker (Winston Duke).

    Indeed, the first thing Dan quotes to Colt is Rambo—specifically, “It’s not about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.”  This is meant to serve as motivation for conquering his fear of getting back in the proverbial saddle for “stunting.” For, by this point in the movie, the audience has been flashed with the title card “18 Months Later.” As in: eighteen months after Colt embodied the literal meaning of being a fall guy by plummeting from a twelve-story building and botching the stunt by landing right on his back. Moments after the fall, viewers see him being rushed to the hospital on a gurney as he gives the crew his customary “stuntman’s thumbs up” to indicate he’s fine. 

    But, of course, he’s not fine at all. No longer a stuntman, but an emotionally stunted man who has lost all sense of identity in the wake of realizing, in a very humiliating way, that he’s not invincible at all. The shame of the incident prompts him to cut off all communication with everyone he knew from that part of his life, even Jody Moreno (Emily Blunt, coming for Emma Stone in terms of onscreen chemistry with Gosling). The camera operator with directorial ambitions who became as sweet on Colt as he is on her over the course of working on many film productions together. 

    Having descended into the depths of “normalcy” after hanging up his kneepads, Colt has become a valet at a restaurant called El Cacatúa del Capitán (and yes, later a cockatoo will figure into the plot, along with an attack dog named Jean-Claude who only responds to commands given to him in French). It is Tom Ryder’s go-to producer, Gail Meyer (Hannah Waddingham), that manages to track Colt down and call his new phone number to lure him to the set of a movie Ryder is currently working on called Metalstorm (something that looks a lot like a sendup of Dune, and even Edge of Tomorrow…an action-alien movie that Emily Blunt co-starred in with, you guessed it, Tom Cruise).

    The project is already (down) underway in, where else, Sydney (a place that must be offering a lot of tax breaks lately if we’re to go by the recent rash of films shot there, such as The Invisible Man, Thor: Love and Thunder and Anyone But You). Although Colt is initially quick to rebuff Gail’s request to come and assist her with keeping Tom in line, he can’t help but respond positively to the dangled carrot (or “sexy bacon,” in this case) of her insistence that Jody, who has been hired as the director, expressly asked for him to be the stuntman. 

    Seeing an opportunity to right the wrong he did by ghosting her, Colt hops on the next plane, greeted promptly by facial scans from the set’s resident “effects person,” Venti Kushner (Zara Michales). When Colt asks why there’s suddenly all these bells and whistles, Venti informs him that they’re taking the scans so they can seamlessly computer-generate Tom’s face onto Colt’s face for any stunt scenes. Colt replies, “Like a deepfake situation? If you get a chance, turn me into Tom Cruise.” Oh my, Leitch and Pearce are really overestimating Cruise’s sense of humor about this sort of thing. An actor whose ego has steadily ballooned since he started out in the 80s, the decade when the TV series, The Fall Guy, originally aired. Because, yes, of course, it’s a movie based on a TV show (as LL Cool J once meta-ly complained at the beginning of Charlie’s Angels upon seeing the opening credits for T. J. Hooker: The Movie, “Another movie from an old TV show”).

    This is something that Leitch and Pearce give a nod to via a post-credits scene focused on two cops played by Lee Majors and Heather Thomas (a.k.a. the stars of The Fall Guy). In the series, Lee Majors’ Colt is also a bounty hunter on the side (which is where that element comes into play for the movie) and Thomas’ Jody is a fellow stuntwoman whose last name is the more anglicized Banks instead of Moreno (and no, there is nothing about Blunt that makes her look like a Moreno). 

    As for being “upgraded” to director in the movie version, Jody is also given the chance to shine as a singer, with a lengthy karaoke scene providing her with the occasion to belt out Phil Collins’ “Against All Odds” (granted, Mariah Carey delivers a possibly superior cover on Rainbow). Blunt kept right on singing for her cameo in Gosling’s monologue on SNL, during which the two duetted a parody version of Taylor Swift’s “All Too Well” (a song that features prominently in the movie). In their version of the song, they explore letting go of the characters that made them part of two of the biggest blockbusters of Summer 2023, Barbie and Oppenheimer (so yes, Barbenheimer did manage to reanimate in 2024 by way of Blunt and Gosling working together). 

    In something of a missed opportunity, SNL didn’t opt to include a sketch of Gosling as a stuntman. But that’s fine, one supposes, for Gosling is no stranger to playing a serious stunt performer instead, having also done so in Drive and The Place Beyond the Pines (the set where he and Eva Mendes would translate their onscreen romance into an offscreen one). What’s more, it probably would have been too much for Gosling to play Tom Cruise in one of the sketches (for whatever reason, choosing to play Beavis was more important). Because even in the promo interviews for The Fall Guy, Gosling and Blunt still find time to rib Cruise. Case in point, when Gosling admits to IMDb, “I have a fear of heights,” Blunt replies, “Who doesn’t? Who doesn’t have a fear of heights?” “Tom Cruise,” Gosling says without missing a beat. But, for the most part, the duo keeps the focus of their interviews on having a deep respect and appreciation for what stunt people do. “It’s a love letter to the stunt community,” Gosling reiterates in an interview for MTV. Blunt adds, “They risk their souls, their bodies, their lives for us to make us look cool.” Gosling then concludes, “They risk more than anyone… You can’t separate the history of film [from] the history of stunts.”

    History that continues to be made with The Fall Guy, which just secured an entry in the Guinness Book of World Records for showcasing the most cannon rolls (eight and a half) ever performed in a film (executed by stunt driver Logan Holladay). It also happens to be the kind of laugh-a-minute film not seen since The Lost City (a movie that Argylle attempted to heavily emulate with less success). And that’s hard for someone like Tarantino, the only other person with as much well-documented “love” for stuntmen, to compete with, even when he also paid homage to the stunt community in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood via Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt). A character who, in addition to Stuntman Mike, doesn’t exactly make for the best representation of the “average” stuntman.

    Funnily enough, Leitch would also enlist Pitt for the lead in Bullet Train, a far less intelligent (read: not intelligent at all) action movie than what the director has on offer here. Thus, whatever “bad mojo” he was suffering from in 2022 (*cough cough* a bad script), he seems to have recovered from it as nicely as Colt Seavers after his massive, back-breaking fall…with more than just a little help from Pearce and a leading man as charismatic as Gosling and his “tousled just so” coif.

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    Genna Rivieccio

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  • With ‘The Fabelmans,’ Julia Butters Reaches New Hollywood Heights

    With ‘The Fabelmans,’ Julia Butters Reaches New Hollywood Heights

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    She has yet to reach high school, but 13-year-old Julia Butters is already building the career of any actor’s dreams. At the age of 10, she stole scenes opposite Leonardo DiCaprio in Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time…in Hollywood. It was on that set where Butters would first meet Steven Spielberg, who cast her as a proxy for his eldest sister in his memoir film, The Fablemans

    “I saw Steven walking around the valet [at Universal Studios]. I waved to him through the window, he waved to me, and I was freaking out,” Butters tells Vanity Fair during a recent Zoom. “That was my only interaction with Steven Spielberg ever, and I thought, ‘Oh, my God, that’s the closest I’m ever going to get to him.’” 

    Her prediction didn’t age well. Just a handful of years later, Spielberg and Tony Kushner’s script, emblazoned with the Amblin Entertainment logo, came her way. “I was so excited,” Butters says. “I remember just being like, ‘Don’t blow it. You gotta try your best. You gotta try your hardest. We have to make this worth it.’ And it turned out to be worth it.”

    After securing the role of Reggie, inspired by Spielberg’s real-life sister Anne, Butters had just one question: “Is there a monkey in this movie?” The actor had watched Spielberg, a 2017 HBO documentary about the legendary filmmaker, which recounts the time his mother spontaneously brought a pet monkey home. “I had this joke on set where that was what made me want to do the movie,” she says. “That was the deal—if there was a monkey, I would work on it.” And how was it sharing the screen with an orangutan? Says Butters, “Crystal was such an incredible actress.”

    Spielberg’s love of his sister is clear throughout The Fabelmans, shown through details and observations too specific to be made up—from her likening the family’s Northern California move to being “parachuted into the land of the giant sequoia people” to asking when “Sammy” plans on making movies with roles for girls. Although often in the periphery, Reggie’s protectiveness over her mother, Mitzi (played by Michelle Williams), breaks through. During a camping trip, she shields her inebriated mother, dancing by the fire in a transparent nightgown, from prying eyes. And after learning of her parents’ split, she observes that it must be difficult for their mother to be “loved by someone who worships” her as their father does. 

    “She feels a responsibility to be kind of the mother of the family while her mom is out playing and dancing and having fun and living life,” Butters tells me of Reggie. “Her mother has such a way about her—this innocence, it’s like a breath of fresh air. She feels youthful and young and happy. She just radiates such a glow. Reggie really wants to protect that and keep that fire lit.”

    Butters, who plays Reggie from ages 13 to 16, grew similarly attached to her onscreen Fabelmans family—Williams as free-spirited mother Mitzi, Paul Dano as by-the-numbers father Arnold, fellow sisters Natalie (Keeley Karsten) and Lisa (Sophia Kopera), and Gabriel LaBelle, who plays the Spielberg-inspired character of Sammy. “We all built a safe space where you can say what’s on your mind if you’re feeling anxious or sad or happy,” Butters says. “And I think that was really important with such an intense set,” adding of her younger costars, “We were all geeking out over the fact that we had made our dreams come true, working with Steven.”

    When I ask Butters if she had jitters about meeting the real-life Anne, who would, after the period depicted in the movie, go on to cowrite and produce Big, starring Tom Hanks, she pauses. “I get nervous about everything, so that’s kind of a funny question.” Butters, who played a kid with obsessive-compulsive disorder on the ABC sitcom American Housewife, says she struggles with her own anxieties, which made their own appearance on the set of The Fabelmans.

    One day, a scene involving Reggie and Sammy quickly bantering while washing dishes was placed in front of Butters, who was in the thick of schoolwork, just 30 minutes before it was meant to be filmed. “I was having trouble getting it out on set,” she remembers. “I got super anxious because I was on a Steven Spielberg set and I really wanted to do the best I could. So of course when I couldn’t get it, I got frustrated with myself. And I beat myself up to the point of shaking.”

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