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  • RHOC’s Emily Simpson Reveals the “Rudest Bravolebrity,” If Shannon Should’ve Accepted Alexis’ Olive Branch, and Questions Heather’s Jeans-Gate Apology, Plus If Tamra is Projecting Her Drinking Habits Onto Shannon

    RHOC’s Emily Simpson Reveals the “Rudest Bravolebrity,” If Shannon Should’ve Accepted Alexis’ Olive Branch, and Questions Heather’s Jeans-Gate Apology, Plus If Tamra is Projecting Her Drinking Habits Onto Shannon

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    Emily Simpson labeled Vicki Gunvalson as the “rudest Bravolebrity” while appearing on Thursday night’s episode of Watch What Happens Live.

    While also addressing Alexis Bellino‘s olive branch to Shannon Beador, 60, her jeans-gate drama with Heather Dubrow, 55, and Tamra Judge‘s apology to Ryan Boyajian, 46, the 48-year-old Real Housewives of Orange County star threw some shade at the OG of the O.C. and at John Janssen, 61.

    “It would be Victoria Gunvalson. I love Vicki, but she can be really rude to other people,” Emily admitted on the October 3 episode of WWHL after being asked who was the rudest Bravo star.

    As for Alexis’ olive branch, which she extended on Thursday night’s RHOC, Emily proclaimed, “No,” when asked if she should’ve accepted it.

    She also didn’t think that Shannon should have softened her “you’re not invited [to London] text.”

    “I feel like she did soften it. I feel like there was a first draft … [She should’ve gone] harder!” Emily stated.

    Looking back at how Alexis kicked Jennifer Pedranti, 47, and Katie Ginella, 40, out of her house, seemingly “shooting the messengers” after they spoke about their upcoming trip across the pond and mentioned John’s lawsuit against Shannon, Emily didn’t think she had a right to be mad at the ladies.

    ”I say no. She needs to be mad at herself,” Emily suggested.

    Regarding her drama with Heather, who had her bring her own jeans to her fashion show, causing Emily to be triggered due to her issues with her weight, Emily clarified that she was not trying to blame Heather for anything when she brought it up at a group event.

    “I was trying to speak from my heart about how I felt. I wasn’t trying to place blame anywhere. But it just went haywire with Alexis being there,” she explained.

    Although Heather ultimately apologized, Gina Kirschenheiter, 40, wondered if her words were genuine or calculated. And Emily seemed to have questions as well.

    “I felt like she was saying what she thought that she should say,” Emily noted, adding that she “never” thought Heather intended to hurt her.

    That said, Emily didn’t appreciate her shady confessional, in which Heather mentioned that her dress was “tight.”

    “I was really taken aback by that because I felt it was a hit, an unnecessary hit and it actually just proved my point, that I’m upset because people say things about me and then you took a hit and said something about me,” she shared.

    Moving on to Tamra, Emily was asked if her co-star was deflecting her own drinking habits onto Shannon.

    “I don’t think so. I know Tamra off-camera and Tamra doesn’t drink a lot off-camera. I think that’s why she doesn’t hold her alcohol well, is because she doesn’t drink all the time,” Emily reasoned.

    As for the recent drama surrounding Tamra’s claims against Ryan, and her apology for suggesting he had stolen from a Los Angeles Dodgers player, Emily said she did not think Tamra was truly sorry for what she said about Ryan or Jennifer.

    Also mentioning Jennifer, Emily said it was “probably Jenn” who annoyed Shane Simpson most, although she also stated that he “likes Jenn.”

    She then hinted that she’s seen red flags in Alexis, 47, and John’s relationship but wouldn’t say what they were, explaining, “I don’t want to get sued.”

    Also on the live show, Emily said that Alexis was the co-star who would have the hardest time passing the bar and reacted to a fan who wanted to know why John gave a statement to PEOPLE magazine about his breakup with Shannon if he was truly a private person.

    “Why does he do anything he does? Why does he go on the red carpet? Why does he go to [WWHL]? Why does he show up at everything? I don’t know,” she replied. “Mr. Private Person is very public.”

    Later on Thursday, amid the WWHL: After Show, Emily was asked how she felt ahead of filming on the reunion.

    “I think it’s gonna be very intense. I think there’s gonna be a lot,” she admitted. “I don’t feel like I’m in the hot seat, but I definitely have opinions about everything, which I will feel free to insert at all times.”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18 airs Thursdays at 9/8c on Bravo.

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  • Jennifer Pedranti Suggests Eddie “Tried to Stop” Tamra From Exposing Ryan Gambling Allegations, Shades Tamra’s “Crocodile Tears” & Claims “Trash” Tamra Had No Problem With Ryan “Before Cameras Went up,” Plus Live Viewing Thread

    Jennifer Pedranti Suggests Eddie “Tried to Stop” Tamra From Exposing Ryan Gambling Allegations, Shades Tamra’s “Crocodile Tears” & Claims “Trash” Tamra Had No Problem With Ryan “Before Cameras Went up,” Plus Live Viewing Thread

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    Jennifer Pedranti claimed Tamra Judge had no problem with her fiancé Ryan Boyajian “before cameras went up” on Real Housewives of Orange County, and she suggested that her husband Eddie “tried to stop” her from exposing the recent allegations against Ryan, who was purportedly accused of being involved in a gambling scandal. She also shaded Tamra’s “crocodile tears.”

    Last season, Tamra went after Ryan on camera, making several derogatory claims about his character. In response, Ryan did a podcast interview to defend himself and made a few accusations against Tamra and Eddie in the process.

    In a preview for the upcoming episode, shared by @therealhousewiveszone on Instagram, Tamra confronted Ryan for “talking mad s**t” about her as a “mom” and Eddie as a “businessman” on the podcast.

    Ryan said he feels “validated” in “everything I said” based on how Tamra and Eddie treated him last season.

    Ryan denied that he ever talked badly of Eddie as a businessman, and he said he was Eddie’s friend until Eddie claimed somebody told him that Ryan goes after married women.

    “Why would I make that up?” asked Eddie after Ryan claimed it didn’t happen.

    In a confessional, Tamra declared that Ryan indeed goes after married women, and she claimed that Jennifer was married when they first got together.

    Jennifer reacted to the clip on her Instagram Stories.

    “Can we PLEASE link the podcast from last year,” asked Jennifer, referring to Ryan’s past interview. “This woman [Tamra] for an ENTIRE year drug my man’s name through the MUD. Remember BEFORE cameras went up she never had ONE problem with Ryan (#neededastoryline).”

    “She has over a million followers and her own podcast and TRASHED Ryan regularly. He went on ONE podcast and spoke his truth,” she went on. “How ironic that she TRASH talks people on the regular and if ONE person says anything back it’s crocodile tears or drunk slurring her words.”

    Jennifer then suggested that Eddie “tried to stop” Tamra “SEVERAL times” in the scene before she brought up Ryan’s allegations.

    “And after she STUMBLED out of Katie’s home yelling FALSE STATEMENTS the guys had a very civilized conversation,” said the star. “We just had to take the trash out so that could happen.”

    Image credit: @Jennifer.pedranti/Instagram

    RHOC Live Viewing – This is also the live viewing thread for tonight’s new episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18, so feel free to comment and chat as the new season airs at 9/8c on Bravo.

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  • Jim Bellino Says Alexis is Being “Used” for Main Storyline on RHOC and Not Paid for It, Addresses If She “Staged” John Janssen Romance, and If They’ll Last, Plus Shades Cast and Bravo’s Depiction of Men

    Jim Bellino Says Alexis is Being “Used” for Main Storyline on RHOC and Not Paid for It, Addresses If She “Staged” John Janssen Romance, and If They’ll Last, Plus Shades Cast and Bravo’s Depiction of Men

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    Jim Bellino believes Alexis Bellino made the wrong move when she agreed to return to The Real Housewives of Orange County as a “friend.”

    During an interview with Kelly Dodd, 48, and Rick Leventhal, 64, days ago, Jim, 62, said he believes Alexis, 47, who is currently engaged to Shannon Beador‘s ex-boyfriend, John Janssen, 60, was “used” for a storyline as he reacted to claims of Alexis and John’s romance being “staged,” threw shade at Bravo, and more.

    “I believe in being all in … If Alexis is going on the show, I think she should’ve been one of the housewives, which she was offered that role,” Jim noted on Patreon’s The Rick & Kelly Show. “To be a friend I don’t agree with because she’s got her toe in the water and frankly, you became a housewife and got used for that role without getting paid for it. That’s just my honest opinion. She should’ve dove in and done it all.”

    According to Jim, Alexis would have made five times as much if she’d signed on in a full-time role.

    “It’s a lot more money. Times five. I believe Alexis is a very important part of the show this year and didn’t get paid for it,” he stated. “Had I been consulting her, I would’ve advised her differently. And I did tell her, ‘Do the whole show.’ I personally believe through her wardrobe, makeup, everything, she lost money.”

    “You need to make sure you get paid,” he added, admitting that he didn’t “agree with” Alexis’ decision to return.

    Because Alexis returned to the show just as she embarked on a romance with John, who had dated Shannon in previous seasons, many accused her of “plotting” her comeback. But Jim doesn’t believe that’s the case.

    “To be very clear — and I was a witness to this because Alexis called me — before she ever met John Janssen, she was asked to be on the show,” Jim clarified. “It just so happened she met John Janssen after she agreed to be on the show and that all morphed. Was it a benefit to Bravo? Was it a benefit to Alexis’ storyline? Yes. It was. But Bravo benefited more than anybody.”

    Jim also said Alexis’ relationship with John was simply an “amazing coincidence” before joking that it was producers who set the two of them up at A Restaurant last year.

    “I wouldn’t be surprised,” he laughed. “I’m joking by the way. Alexis really did struggle with the decision of being back on the show or not. She went back and forth and back and forth.”

    Although Alexis was unsure of returning, Jim said he doubted she regretted the decision, saying, “My gut would say no.”

    “I think she likes when things play out publicly. I’m not saying this was intentional. I believe they authentically met at A Restaurant. I believe that it was a perfect scenario for the show and by the way, let’s clear it up right now so nobody ever asks me this question again: Do you believe that relationship was staged?’ One hundred percent no. I believe that relationship authentically happened through happenstance of them meeting and it’s just a cause and effect that it was the perfect scenario. And once again, as usual, Bravo wins,” he stated.

    Alexis and John certainly have their doubters. And, as Jim shared, he doesn’t know John’s intentions.

    “I really don’t. The verdicts out. Alexis is aware but naive at the same time. We’ll see. That’s to be determined — for all of us to watch,” he noted. “If I was flipping a coin, I think it’s 50/50. She has a good heart. Her intentions are 100 percent pure.”

    Speaking of the current cast of RHOC, Jim said he felt sorry for Ryan Boyajian, 47, the fiance of Jennifer Pedranti, 47, who faced the wrath of certain cast members, namely Tamra Judge, 57, after he was linked to the $16 million MLB scandal involving Los Angeles Dodgers player Shohei Ohtani, 30.

    “I have my own opinion of how Bravo depicts men. I feel sorry for [Ryan Boyajian], who’s with [Jennifer Pedranti], I think they’re really cool people. It’s a no-win for him though,” he said. “And we don’t know, which is why you don’t find a lot of quality men agreeing to do the show anymore. He is a quality man.”

    Jim also took issue with the fact that most of the women of RHOC aren’t actually housewives — and some don’t even live in Orange County.

    “I don’t understand why Tamra living in Big Bear and [Heather Dubrow] living in Beverly Hills has any relevance to Real Housewives of Orange County. I think Real Housewives of Orange County should be about Real Housewives of Orange County,” he stated. “How many housewives are married and living in Orange County? Alexis is divorced. Heather is in Beverly Hills. Tamra is in Big Bear. I believe [Emily Simpson] is a real housewife in Orange County. [Gina Kirschenheiter]’s not married. I think two out of the seven are Real Housewives of Orange County.”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18 airs Thursdays at 9/8c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC Star Tamra Judge Admits She’s a “Problem” When She Drinks, Says She’s Done Protecting Shannon and Reacts to Vicki’s “Black Heart” Comment, Plus Alexis’ Video Reveal, and Paps Drama

    RHOC Star Tamra Judge Admits She’s a “Problem” When She Drinks, Says She’s Done Protecting Shannon and Reacts to Vicki’s “Black Heart” Comment, Plus Alexis’ Video Reveal, and Paps Drama

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    Season 18 of The Real Housewives of Orange County might be a turning point for Tamra Judge. While some fans give her credit for bringing the other ladies’ drama to the forefront, others feel she’s more of a bully. This has caused a ton of backlash for the RHOC veteran online. Now, the Two Ts In a Pod co-host is opening up about her own drinking and admitting that she’s a bit of a problem when she partakes too much. Plus, she discusses the drama from this season.

    As fans know, Tamra has talked a lot about Shannon Beador‘s DUI this season. In fact, she even went as far as to call her out at a dinner party in an episode earlier this season. This led to fans online discussing Tamra’s drinking habits.

    Recently, Tamra sat down to have a conversation with Decider. They started by discussing Tamra’s relationship with Shannon and the backlash she has gotten for bashing her. Tamra said, “I know her better than anybody. I have been there for her. I have kept her secrets. I have lied for her. I have done everything to protect her for so many years, and I just can’t do it anymore.”

    They then discussed Jennifer Pedranti, who says that Tamra is a problem when she drinks. Tamra explained, “Oh, I am a problem when I drink. I’m an asshole when I drink. I just say whatever I feel like saying. I don’t lie. That’s one thing. But I just say the things that are deep down inside.”

    Tamra then went on to say that she slowed down her drinking after filming a certain scene for this season. She said, “I rarely drink the rest of the season. I mean, I didn’t have to run my car into a house to say, ‘You know what? I need to stop drinking.’”

    Tamra also discussed Vicki Gunvalson, calling her evil and saying she has a black heart. She said, “I would say as far as the Vicki situation, I have done nothing to Vicki. I have been there through her lying about cancer, through [her ex-boyfriend] Brooks [Ayers], and through [her ex-fiancé] Steve [Lodge].”

    She continued, “And I’ve cried on the phone with her for many, many years. We’ve gone through issues with kids and marriages and divorces and grandchildren. I am sick to my stomach that she would go to that extent to say such horrible things about me.”

    They then discussed the videos Alexis Bellino threatened to release. According to Tamra, “I do think that she probably — John will never release those videos, I don’t think. I think that they will be brought up at the reunion. And I think that Alexis will probably tell everybody what’s on them, and I think everybody’s going to be shocked. I’ve heard, and it’s bad.”

    Of course, it’s now being said that the ring camera footage shows Shannon almost running over John Janssen‘s daughter. 

    The interviewer then asked Tamra about getting annoyed at Alexis for constantly talking about Johhny J. Tamra responded, “Well, I don’t know. I mean, they seem very much in love. It’s going on a year now, and we just poke fun at her because we’ve seen Alexis in past years, and whoever she’s with, she’s very into and very supportive of her man, and I respect that of her.”

    She continued, “But we went on this trip to not talk about any of that stuff. And I clearly say in the car — which I don’t think they showed — ‘Guys, my Big Bear house is zero drama. It is called My Happy Place. We do not talk negatively at the cabin.’ And it just came up. It just came up. But I love seeing Alexis giggle and laugh. Her giggle is infectious, and she’s funny, and there’s so many other things she talks about, but they just haven’t shown it.”

    Tamra also responded to the idea that she’s changing Emily Simpson for the worse. She explained, “I was totally shocked with this narrative that I am turning Emily into an asshole. Emily’s a very smart woman. She’s educated. She’s an attorney. She has her own opinions. Me and Emily do not have powwows talking about how we can possibly be b**ches to people.”

    She added, “And I took offense to it, and I thought, ‘Wow, Gina, that’s what you think of me. You think that low of me that [you think] I’m going to go persuade people to be mean.’ It was just a couple of episodes [ago when] she was yelling at Jenn to pay her bills and calling her a squatter. So who taught you how to be a b**ch? So it’s very confusing. It just wasn’t okay with me.”

    Tamra also discussed the belief that Gina Kirschenheiter set Katie Ginella up regarding the Heather Dubrow pictures. She said, “Well, first of all, it was because of what Katie had been telling me. Katie told me that basically months before we started filming, Katie and Gina became friends, and Katie gave Gina this information, and Gina said to her, ‘You need to bring that up. If you get cast on the show, you need to bring it up because Heather — it would be so great. And it would be so funny. Heather would think it’s funny.’”

    She continued, “She was just pushing for Katie to be on the show. She was calling each one of the cast members trying to sell us on Katie. And we’re like, ‘Okay, but we don’t do the hiring, but whatever. That’s fine.’ Then when Katie does say it, Gina got questioned at the golf tournament, and I think somebody said, ‘Well, Gina, you know about this. You were sent the text messages confirming that Heather called the paparazzi.’”

    Tamra added, “And she suddenly couldn’t use her phone, didn’t know why it wouldn’t turn on and was like, ‘I got to go.’ And she acted very suspicious. So I’m like, ‘It looks like she set you up.’ So we’ll see. We’ll see what happens though.”

    Fans can watch RHOC on Thursday nights on Bravo and stream the episode the next day on Peacock. 

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  • RHOC Star Jennifer Pedranti Shares Update With Ex After Divorce, Talks Least Supportive Costars and Drama With Gina & Tamra, Plus Insists Fiance Ryan is Innocent Amid MLB Gambling Scandal, Says Alexis & John Janssen Have ‘Real Love, & Live Viewing Thread

    RHOC Star Jennifer Pedranti Shares Update With Ex After Divorce, Talks Least Supportive Costars and Drama With Gina & Tamra, Plus Insists Fiance Ryan is Innocent Amid MLB Gambling Scandal, Says Alexis & John Janssen Have ‘Real Love, & Live Viewing Thread

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    Season 18 of The Real Housewives of Orange County recently returned, and fans have quite a bit to devour. Among the storylines from the show that made headlines was Jennifer Pedranti‘s fiance, Ryan Boyajian, being linked to a massive gambling scandal.

    As was previously reported, filming for the season picked up after it had concluded in order to catch the goings on with the situation. Now, she’s opening up about the scandal, the issues with Gina Kirschenheiter, Tamra Judge, and more. 

    As fans know, Jennifer joined RHOC during the show’s 17th season. This means she’s still a fairly new housewife, but she is expected to dominate much of this new season due to the gambling scandal, which involved money being wired illegally to multiple accounts and then laundered through casinos. Jennifer and Ryan started dating in 2020. 

    Recently, she sat down with Housewives Nightcap from Access Hollywood and discussed RHOC, the gambling allegations against Ryan, and much more. 

    She starts by discussing how this season is different than her first. She says, “There was a lot that went on in my life, like, I’m telling you, I think everything that could happen to a person probably happened in this last season of filming.”

    Regarding what made season one difficult, she says, “Season one was hard because my friendship with Tamra was very difficult, and Tamra is a very strong personality, so I was navigating that and finding a new normal within a friendship.”

    She goes on, “Season two is hard because my real life really got shaken up and it affected me, it affected my kids, it affected my relationship, it affected my ex. I mean truly, like, everything kind of got pulled out from under me, and I lived it on camera. “

    However, she also says that navigating the drama on camera was an afterthought to how she and her family were going to handle it. 

    The topic of Jennifer being evicted from the home that Gina helped her get also came up, and she said she understood why Gina was upset. She also says she believed she was doing all she could. 

    Regarding her drama with Gina, she says, “I understand her side. The thing that’s hard for me is I’m not a woman who would take down another woman’s career. I respect Gina’s career and I respect what that girl has done at her young age.”

    The conversation then turns to Jennifer finalizing her divorce from ex-husband William Pedranti. When asked how she’s feeling, Jennifer responds by saying, “Wow, that took four years.  Unfortunately, I have no communication with my ex, and so it’s hard, it’s hard. I’m so grateful that it’s finalized.”

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    She then said that being married to her ex made her and Ryan feel tethered to the past. She also hopes that she and Ryan can now be friends with her ex-husband. 

    Regarding the gambling scandal, Jennifer had this to say about why she’s sticking by him, “I would stick by him through anything. I know Ryan, and I communicate about everything, so this was not like some bomb that dropped on Ryan and I. We’ve been going through this with our best friends for a long time.”

    She then says, “You just have to give it time. Ryan’s not involved in it.”

    Jennifer also expresses that she felt guilty over her stardom “shedding light” on him for something he didn’t do. 

    Regarding how she felt about some of her castmates meeting and discussing the situation, she says, “I met with Katie and Gina, and they had concerns; anybody would, but you know what they did? They sat me down, and they’re like, girl, what the heck is this guy doing? Are you okay? Are your kids okay?”

    She goes on to say who she didn’t hear from.

    “I did not hear from Tamra, and I didn’t hear from Emily, but Tamra doesn’t surprise me. Emily, I would have liked to have heard from, but I didn’t.”

    She then talks about how this changed things for her and Ryan. 

    “When it printed, we were like, oh my gosh. It was like we were on the biggest high and then the lowest low, and we had to just come back together and say we know the truth, we’re good.”

    The interviewer asked for her take on the Shannon Beador and Alexis Bellino situation. She says, “I can’t.” She goes on to say that Alexis and John Janssen have real love, and she believes they will go the distance. However, she also supports Shannon. 

    Regarding Tamra, Jennifer says, “Tamra and I were in a great spot, like, we were really moving forward and even so much we wanted the guys to move forward.”

    She continues, “Tamra does what Tamra does, and you’ll have to see it.”

    RHOC Live Viewing – This is also the live viewing thread for tonight’s new episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18, so feel free to comment and chat as the new season airs at 9/8c on Bravo.

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  • Gina Kirschenheiter Dishes on “Awkward” Dinner With RHOC Cast, Divide Within the Group, and Alexis Bellino's Potential Return

    Gina Kirschenheiter Dishes on “Awkward” Dinner With RHOC Cast, Divide Within the Group, and Alexis Bellino's Potential Return

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    Gina Kirschenheiter recently attended a group dinner with her Real Housewives of Orange County castmates. And, while appearing on Melissa Gorga‘s podcast last week, she opened up about the “awkward” event.

    While also sharing her thoughts on Alexis Bellino, 47, joining the cast for season 18, Gina, 39, spoke to the Real Housewives of New Jersey star, 44, about the cast dinner, which was arranged by Heather Dubrow, 54, noting that when it came to the seating arrangements, there was a clear divide.

    “We were all actually able to meet up for a holiday dinner. The full cast from last year,” Gina revealed on the December 14 episode of On Display With Melissa Gorga. “It was a couple of weeks ago.”

    Although Heather didn’t end season 17 on the best of terms with the RHOC cast, Gina said she gives her co-star a lot of credit for keeping the ladies united — “no matter what.”

    “Even during the time when it was like everybody was mad at Heather, Heather is so good at always being like, f*ck it, I’m still going to be the connector,” Gina explained. “She’s always putting us on like a group text even if it’s super awkward for some people and they aren’t talking, and she’s like okay girls, why don’t we get together for the holidays, I think we should have a holiday dinner. And I love her for that, but also it feels like sometimes maybe we shouldn’t all get together.”

    Looking back at their group meal, Gina admitted that there were two separate groups.

    “It’s good that we were all sitting at a table, but I’ll be honest, it was literally like there were two different dinners going on,” she shared. “It felt like it was me, [Tamra Judge], [Emily Simpson], and Heather at one table. And then [Taylor Armstrong], [Jennifer Pedranti], and [Shannon Beador] at the other table. It was very awkward. It was like awkward as f**k.”

    Despite the dinner being uncomfortable, Gina said group meals are something she and her RHOC castmates should make a habit of doing.

    “It’s such a nice thing, it’s in the right spirit… It’s very professional,” she noted. “It is something we should be doing. We should have some level of camaraderie about our own franchise.”

    As for Alexis, who went public with her romance with John Janssen, the ex-boyfriend of Shannon, 59, earlier this month, Gina confirmed they’ve only met once.

    “I had never met her, and then I think just at just like BravoCon… then at that after party that was happening… I met her and said hi to her, but I never interacted with her beyond that,” she revealed.

    And while Alexis has been facing rumors of a RHOC return for months, Gina said she hasn’t heard anything official quite yet.

    “I don’t know anything that’s happening, but I have a feeling we’re going to see her for this season,” she teased.

    Filming is expected to begin on The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18 sometime in early 2024.

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