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  • Shannon Beador Says She Knows Identity of Mystery Blogger on RHOC Finale as Jeff Lewis Reacts and Denies It’s Him

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    Shannon Beador addressed her mysterious phone call with the anonymous source who accused Tamra Judge of leaking storylines to bloggers. Jeff Lewis then reacted, and he denied that he was the caller.

    In the season finale of the Real Housewives of Orange County, an unnamed man spoke with Shannon, Gina Kirschenheiter, and Jennifer Pedranti. The man revealed pivotal storylines involving Tamra (which, according to Andy Cohen, he wouldn’t have heard unless Tamra or Gina leaked it). After the finale aired, some fans speculated that the caller sounded like Jeff, who’s friends with both Tamra and Shannon.

    On Jeff Lewis Live, a fan asked Shannon about the mysterious caller in the season finale.

    “They distorted his voice, which I understand. But, Jeff, I wish they would have [shared] at the bottom — to protect his identity — [that we] changed his voice,” said Shannon, via @itsabravoworld on Instagram.

    “So you all know who it is,” said Jeff.

    “People were saying it was you,” said Shannon.

    “But it wasn’t me,” said Jeff. “But you know who it is?”

    “I know the person’s name, because I spoke [to him],” she said.

    “Oh, but we don’t know them?” asked Jeff. “I wouldn’t know him?”

    “No,” said Shannon. “It’s just a civilian.”

    “Somebody trying to get famous,” Jeff responded.

    “No, you guys,” said Shannon. “I don’t think he is trying to be famous, or else he would have said, ‘I’ll come and film or I’ll come to your reunion.’ I don’t think that’s the case … He didn’t want to be discovered, but he knew some information, [and] it was like, whoa.”

    At the reunion, Shannon said that, according to the caller, Tamra feeds storylines to content creators who then protect her on social media.

    In March 2025, another source addressed the situation in an interview with In Touch.

    “Tamra Judge has been cited as being the No. 1 source for production leaks to the media and attempting to get bloggers and reporters to write defamatory and damaging stories about her castmates. She then goes and accuses others of doing it,” the source claimed at the time. “Chances are if Tamra is pointing her finger at you about something, it’s because she is trying to deflect from the fact that she is the one behind the scenes actually doing it … [She] keeps a folder on each member of the cast and she has spent hours researching the internet looking for negative news that she can use against the cast during production.”

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  • Tamra Judge Shares New Details on RHOC Finale Call Drama, Talks Having PTSD, Gretchen’s “Gross” Posts Being “Brushed Over,” & Cast Gang-Up, Plus If She’s Spoken to Andy Since Reunion and What Wasn’t Shown

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    Tamra Judge admitted to getting a heads-up about the Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 finale call, during which she was accused of leaking stories to blogs, on Vicki Gunvalson‘s podcast on Tuesday.

    As she also addressed the way Gretchen Rossi‘s controversial “liked” posts were brushed over amid a cast gang-up against her, cited the support of Katie Ginella, 41, and confirmed whether she’d spoken to Andy Cohen, 57, since the reunion, Tamra, 58, admitted to having post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) from the show and explained how she handles her haters.

    “You think I know? Why would I be behind it? That’s nasty. That’s dirty. Nobody will give me an answer on it. I don’t know who it is and there’s nothing I can do about it,” Tamra said of who made the finale phone call on the December 23 episode of My Friend, My Soulmate, My Podcast.

    According to Tamra, executive producer Alex Baskin called her before the episode aired and said, “Hey, listen, I don’t want to ambush you, but something’s going to come up.”

    “So the entire time I’m there, I’m like, ‘What’s coming?’ It’s like the worst feeling in the entire world, and then it came … the way it all went down was very disgusting to me. It was very much brushed over, these posts that had been liked by Gretchen, this hatred, and all this stuff,” Tamra noted. 

    Because there was more focus on Tamra defending herself against supposedly leaked stories than Gretchen’s posts, she felt even more ganged up on by her castmates.

    “We’re just going to ignore this? We’re gonna act like this didn’t happen?” she wondered. “And then you’re gonna go after me for 30 or 40 minutes on this stuff? … It was painful. Katie was the only one that came to my dressing room afterwards and sat there … and talked to me, and I was crying … [The others] all went to dinner with Gretchen.”

    “But at the end of the day, I know what contract I signed. They can do whatever they want to me,” she added.

    While it has been suggested that Gretchen’s “liked” posts were modified in some way, Tamra insisted they were real.

    “For years [they’d been floating around]. It was all over Reddit. It was all over Twitter. It was all over Instagram. It was all over the place, and some of them were pretty freaking gross. Really gross,” she fumed.

    After Vicki, 63, pointed out that Gretchen had defended herself, saying she scrolls and “likes” everything, Tamra asked, “What is your algorithm? That’s what you have to ask. I don’t have things like that in my algorithm.”

    Looking back on RHOC season 19, Tamra said she was a victim of a gang-up from Shannon Beador, 61, Emily Simpson, 49, Jennifer Pedranti, 48, and, at one time, Gina Kirschenheiter, 41.

    “It was like, ‘What did I do to you, Emily? What did I do to you, Gina? What are you guys doing?’” she recalled. “There was such a huge division in the cast this last year and I think that is not good, when there’s people trying to [sabotage] or ice somebody out … It’s like, ‘Just do your job and don’t worry about anybody else.’”

    As for whether she’d seen Andy since the reunion, Tamra confirmed she saw him at BravoCon.

    “[And] he did call me the day after the reunion to check on me. He’s always been very nice to me,” she added.

    Still, Tamra revealed she experienced PTSD.

    “There was a huge hate train last year, and it was devastating to me. But I feel like I wasn’t shown in the best light,” she explained. “I was getting death threats and hate. I had PTSD coming back to the show, and coming back to the show, I was still very scared and nervous about saying anything because I’m like, ‘I said so many great things and nice things,’ but it wasn’t shown.”

    Also on the podcast, Tamra said that when it comes to her haters, she doesn’t let them affect her.

    “I’ve had talks with production and people at Bravo and they’re not very influenced by what people are saying on social media because the hardcore fans that are out there that are loud, very loud, they will hate you one minute and then love you the next. They will want you fired and then when you’re fired, they want you back,” she reasoned.

    “I don’t read the comments … it’s a time waste, and then it’s also not good for your mental health … I don’t want to,” she added.

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 20 is expected to begin filming sometime early next year.

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  • RHOC Reunion Part 3 Recap: Tamra Threatens to Sue Gretchen After She Accuses Her of Being Behind Controversial Liked Posts & Feuds With Emily as More Allegations Surface, Plus Jenn Confronts Katie Over Convo With Friend Nicole

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    The OC ladies have been trippin’ (quite literally) this season.  As the reunion for season 19 of The Real Housewives of Orange County concludes, it seems like a happy ending is not in the cards.  Gretchen denies liking homophobic posts, despite following accounts that discuss that hate rhetoric, and Tamra gets accused of leaking content from the season.

    When confronted, not only does Tamra deny involvement, but she becomes infuriated. After 15 years on the show, Tamra has never once had this sort of problem, but she finds it interesting that once Gretchen and Slade come back on, issues seem to appear from thin air…

    From New Orleans, to Amsterdam, this group of women have traveled around… and they brought the drama with them. But they did manage to have some fun, mainly with recreational drugs. Shannon STILL believes she heard the OC theme song when she was on ‘shrooms and Andy lives for Heather wakin’ n bakin’. Speaking of Heather, she discusses the cathartic experience of spreading her father’s ashes and is grateful Emily was there to give the support she needed.  

    Andy brings up the emotional final dinner in Amsterdam when the ladies confront Gretchen’s alleged social media actions. Gretchen explains that there is no excuse for liking anything with “offensive sentiment” and she “completely denounces” anything that seems homophobic or transphobic.  Gretchen claims she did not recognize any of the posts, but admits that she does follow the accounts.

    Gretchen blames liking said posts on mindlessly scrolling without looking at the content of the post. WHAT.  Tamra points out that Gretchen unfollowed over two hundred hate accounts when she got back from Amsterdam.  Does that make Gretchen look guilty?

    Tamra wonders why Gretchen would be following someone with that type of content to begin with, but Gretchen plays dumb. She claims she follows both left and right wing accounts, especially around the 2020 election, and Andy reminds the group it is a free country-Gretchen can follow whoever. 

    Heather explains that after 14 years of knowing Gretchen, she has never seen Gretchen in that light. However, she has heard “rumblings” about Gretchen and this type of rhetoric. Heather reminds Gretchen that if she follows these accounts, her For You page is going to be full of hate. Tamra printed out posts from two days ago that shows Gretchen STILL liking this type of content. Gretchen calls it a “good lesson” and shares that she unliked many old posts.

    In order to prove to Heather that she was set up, Gretchen hired a cyber analysis company. The 25 page report confirms that the most egregious post may be a combo of AI and other imaging software. On top of that, the analysis found links between the hate accounts and Tamra!! 

    Tamra denies this wholeheartedly and explains that she has known about this situation since 2022. Gretchen claims someone called her to let her know Tamra and Gina were plotting to take her down with this hate rhetoric.  Andy wonders why Tamra would bring this up after resolving the issues with Gretchen. But Tamra is engaged.  She calls Gretchen a “homophobic b*tch,” but Gretchen believes that Tamra is the one putting everything out into the press. 

    In the end, Gina wishes that she brought up the post situation a different way. She apologizes to Gretchen since it caused some public drama.

    Heather explains that she felt as though Tamra was trying to drop the Gretchen post into her lap to make her run with it, but Heather chose not to take the bait. Tamra wonders why she is getting blamed for Gretchen liking homophobic stuff. When Emily jumps, wondering why Tamra would bring Gina into the mix, Tamra calls Emily an a*shole and seethes with anger. 

    Tamra reminds Emily, “by the way sweetheart, we had to switch you back on because when you got off, it [your podcast] tanked.” Tamra feels like she can come for Emily like that because she called her an a*shole, but the reality is, Tamra called Emily that FIRST! Tamra is always the victim. She misremembers, claiming she has always been nice to Emily, but calling her Shrek does not seem nice to me…

    Seeing remorse from Emily, Gina, and Heather makes Gretchen feel a little bit better after they all attacked her for liking homophobic posts.  Emily searched for credible sources of this egregious post and came up empty.  A screen shot is not clear evidence. Katie, who was not there, calls this situation heartbreaking as she is an ally to the LGBTQ+ community.

    Gretchen is (sort of) crying because this is not who she is. She calls it a personal attack and feels like it was plotted and planned.  In fact, it brought up PTSD of naked wasted with all the plotting and planning. Gretchen claims that Tamra disseminates information to purposely retaliate.  Remind me again why Katie got banned from hanging out with the group when they’re doing the same thing?!

    Andy shows Tamra that the cyber analysis is linking accounts back to her and, as Gretchen puts it, her “criminal network.” Tamra states that she never leaked information to bloggers…which does not age well once she sees the post filming clip with an anonymous caller.

    Katie looks like she has seen a ghost and Tamra remains cool as a cucumber as they listen to the tipster shell out information that only those filming would know.  According to the source, Tamra was leaking information all season long and the entire content was known by this person. Evidently, Tamra clearly wanted Gina there to do her dirty work this season.

    Tamra wants to know who this guy is.  Andy reminds the group that they all must agree to keep things confidential about the season. Tamra calls this an ambush and points out that after 15 years, there has never been a problem… until Gretchen came back on.  

    Shannon shares that the anonymous person told them Tamra has been doing this for years. The tipster even knew about Shannon’s up fronts drama, info that was not privy to most. Now Tamra seems to find herself in the same seat that Katie was in all season long. Katie is happy to be clean on this one, since the only people who knew about this information filmed the remainder of the season.

    Tamra believes that Slade is working overtime to make her look bad and many people argue that the tone and cadence of the anon voice gives off Slade vibes.  

    Tamra shrieks and promises on her kids’ lives that she would never do this. Heather finds this concerning, but Tamra reminds everyone that the minute Gretchen and Slade are back in the picture, fishy things happen.  Gina feels set up by Tamra, but Tamra thinks that Gina should feel set up by Slade. Andy reminds Tamra that Slade wouldn’t know the information because Gretchen did not even know it.

    Shannon muses if Tamra’s “orgasmic face” on finale night had anything to do with this whole situation.  According to Shannon, it was almost like Tamra was smug in knowing she’s got Gretchen backed in the corner.

    Tamra explains there is no proof (other than the exact content and storyline from the season). Gina points out that if Tamra told anyone anything about the season, even with no mal intent, information is getting out there somehow. 

    Heather wants all of this to stop. Careers, kids, bloggers- it should all be off-limits.  This show should solely be about conflict and resolution between the group.  She reminds everyone this show is not a game of Survivor. Emily jumps in (what else is new?) to say it is imperative not to deal with outside people since it is hard enough as it is within the group. 

    If Gretchen could take back one thing she said this season it would be blabbing about Tamra’s alleged affair. Shannon apologizes once again to Katie for comparing her to Alexis and Katie regrets saying something about Jenn

    Heather wishes she was more vocal about the fatty photo and Emily goes back to last year and apologizes to Katie once again.  Gina regrets having asked Katie what she was wearing and she feels bad for saying she does not think Heather is funny.  Tamra regrets sharing the picture of Jenn and Jenn apologizes to both Shannon and Katie.  

    For Katie and Jenn, they need to have a conversation re: Nicole, a friend of Jenn’s. Apparently, Katie asked if Ryan was involved with Matt’s bookie gig. Jenn lets Katie know she can’t do things like this in true friendships, but Katie reminds Jenn that she had not spoken to her for weeks. Katie stands firm, despite Jenn’s accusations.

    Heather leads the ladies in a path to clarity with a toast and season 19 wraps.  Tamra is reeling, trying to claim her innocence to Andy, wondering where all of this information came from. She leans on Katie for support, which is rich considering Katie was also blacklisted this season for doing exactly what Tamra is accused of. 

    Katie reminds Tamra that she needs to remember who is in her corner. Tamra calls it retaliation, but Gina is headstrong that there were things discussed that only Gina and Tamra know…pointing all arrows back to Tamra. SO, is she guilty? Or are Slade and Gretchen truly behind this? 

    TELL US – THOUGHTS ON THIS REUNION FINALE EPISODE OF RHOC?

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  • Katie Ginella Reacts to RHOC Costars Gretchen & Jen Gushing Over Her, Addresses Claim Her Friendship With Tamra Judge is “Strategic”

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    Katie Ginella shared which co-star she’s willing to reconcile with on Real Housewives of Orange County, and she addressed claims that her friendship with Tamra Judge is “strategic.” Katie also suggested that the finale scene against Tamra was an attempt to “stir the pot” to “mask” other “indiscretions.”

    In the recent finale, Jennifer Pedranti, Shannon Beador, and Gina Kirschenheiter spoke on the phone with an anonymous source who claimed that Tamra leaked info about the season to content creators after slamming Katie for doing the same thing.

    In an interview with Virtual Reali-Tea at BravoCon, Katie was told that Gretchen and Jennifer recently gushed over Katie, claiming they’re now cordial and that they all took a photo together.

    Katie looked surprised. “I thought I just saw a pig [flying],” she said.

    She was then asked if she would ever revisit those friendships.

    “I will with Jenn for sure,” she said.

    “Why Jenn and not Gretchen?” asked co-host Evan Real.

    “Because I’m not a homophobe,” said Katie, who was later asked if she believes Gretchen ‘liked’ offensive posts, as discussed in the season. “Some are still liked and commented on. I’ve seen them on my phone.”

    In a separate interview for ET, host Brice Sander asked Katie about the claim that her friendship with Tamra is “strategic” so she can “stay on the show.”

    “I’m not sure how to answer that,” she said. “It’s not strategic. When I was paused from filming, she was the first one to call me the very next day, not Jenn, and asked how I was doing, and she didn’t even know what the fan reaction would be. So she literally took a chance on bringing me back in, filming with me again, and it’s been a very organic type of relationship.”

    Later on, she addressed the finale scene about Tamra.

    “Sometimes when people are guilty of something, they [will] stir the pot on something else to mask their indiscretions,” she said, referring to Gina, Shannon, and Jenn. “I think that there’s no proof. We didn’t see anything leak … If the guy really did this and heard this, then who is it? Come out and say it with your whole chest. Let’s hear you. Let’s meet you.”

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  • RHOC Reunion Part 2: Gretchen Claims Matt Said Eddie Is Gay, Katie Blames Jenn for Lost Paycheck, and Tamra Admits Shading Jenn With ‘Fatty’ Photo as Jenn Fires Back Over Affair Rumor

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    The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion continues. Tamra seems to be the common denominator in many of these arguments, but when Katie’s husband, Matt, arrives, the focus changes.  Gretchen’s tactic is to deny and Jenn‘s is to forget anything that ever happened.  Katie is tired of the lies and Matt is ready to set the record straight about “holding the line.”

    Tamra is forever bringing up old dirt about people. In an attempt to defend herself, Tamra freaks out, claiming she does not even talk about Gretchen.  Andy finally steps in to move the show along and switches from Gretchen vs. Tamra to Jenn vs. Tamra.  Look who always seems to be involved in the drama…

    Jenn and Tamra have no relationship because, according to Jenn, Tamra is hard to navigate. Jenn believes Tamra always tries to make people think Jenn is not who she pretends to be. But Tamra feels like Jenn focused on her because she wanted to be on the show.  It’s odd that Tamra is bringing this up now, considering she never appeared to be on bad terms with Katie when she first came onto the show.

    Tamra rattles off all the ways Jenn tries to be like her, but can we actually believe any of them?  For starters, Jenn was never Tamra’s neighbor, considering Tamra moved off the block around the time Jenn moved in. Jenn even points out that Tamra invited her to do a fitness competition; therefore, she was not trying to single-white-female-Tamra!

    Tamra denies being jealous of Gretchen and Jenn, especially when it comes to their looks.  It is odd that Tamra would bring up the infamous fatty photo of Jenn, though.  Heather believes there was no “ill-intent” coming from Tamra, but  Tamra admits she showed the photo to be shady.  Andy jumps in to remind Tamra that there is an OC look, so it’s probably not as deep as Tamra thinks it is- so no, Jenn is NOT trying to be Tamra.

    During an episode, Tamra insinuated that Jenn had an affair at her old yoga studio with an instructor, but Jenn denies this allegation. Tamra simply hears rumors and puts them into the universe.  Jenn admits that she did have an affair and now she is with Ryan and wonders why Tamra’s go-to is to just throw something mean out there to make it stick.

    Although Jenn does not have a set wedding date, the women, especially Emily,  have her back. When it comes to Ryan “oversexualizing” Jenn, she has some insecurities. Jenn worries that this yearning will die out.  Her co-parenting is finally evening out and Will even thanked Ryan for taking the kids in. 

    Gina talks about the questionable friendship between Shannon and Jenn. Jenn claims they are truly tight and is forever indebted to Shannon for throwing her a bridal shower (that she never really wanted). Gina admits to being salty over Shannon’s attention to Jenn, but Shannon wonders why Gina would need to say she is “worried” about her actions.

    Heather is annoyed with Gina because they are both putting themselves back into the world, working once again.  When Gina made fun of Heather’s comedic career, Heather felt hurt.  It seems like any time Heather mentions her career, the other ladies sh*t all over it.   Gina admits that this was an error and apologizes, despite doubling-down in her interview.

    They take a break for lunch and Katie’s husband, Matt, arrives on set. She gets a little emotional talking about how Jenn denied calling her con-artist.  Matt scoffs at this, claiming Jenn is the one getting married to a guy who did a deal with the feds!  

    When Shannon goes to visit Jenn, we learn about a phone call Jenn got from Ryan.  Ryan let Jenn know that Katie made it a point to talk to a friend of theirs named Nicole.  Katie apparently asked Nicole if Ryan was involved in Matt’s illegal bookie business, which is an odd thing to ask ANYONE.  Jenn is furious once she finds this out because she knows Katie was just trying to get dirt to use against her.

    Katie is finally ready for the truth to come to light.  She is irked because she always defended Jenn, but Jenn seemingly hung Katie out to dry when sh*t hit the fan. When it comes to the racially insensitive video Gretchen and Jenn posted, Jenn is angry that Katie came at her.  “How dare you think that it’s racist?” Jenn questions Katie, stating that Katie should know Jenn’s intentions better than that.

    On top of that, Jenn never officially apologized for this until today.  Even Gretchen said she was sorry…sure it was a Chat GPT message, but it was done.  Katie get can’t over how she was not only offended, but then blamed by Jenn for the backlash.

    Jenn states that Katie, apparently, always had an ear to the ground and always knew things about the ladies and their families. Katie is hell bent on this roofie story and wonders why Jenn is not backing her up.

    Andy takes a moment to reset the naked-wasted drama. Last year, Ryan, Jenn, Matt, Katie, Slade, and Gretchen went to dinner (before Gretchen was even on the show).  Katie alleges that Gretchen said she went to the hospital after Tamra drugged her that evening so long ago. Jenn seemingly only remembers SOME details, then claimed she didn’t know anything about it, but knew details the next day.  Seems fishy.

    Gretchen told Jenn she was so sick she probably could have gone to the hospital.  Gretchen understands that her “miscommunication” reliving the traumatic experience made her say words she did not intend.  Shannon claims we are all guilty of misspeaking, but Gretchen saying she DID go to the hospital is certainly not misspeaking, according to this group. After all, Gretchen did pass the lie detector test because she did not go to the hospital, yet Katie said Gretchen told her she had a positive toxicology report. 

    Slade, Ryan, and Matt were invited to come to the reunion, but the only one who comes is Matt. Matt jumps right in (despite shaking) talking about the 911 text message he received from Slade. According to Matt, Slade was directing him to tell Katie to “hold the line” with Gretchen about the naked wasted account.

    Matt claims that Gretchen and Slade chose to tell this story about Tamra to highlight just how dangerous Tamra can be.  He goes on to say this story went into great detail about a drugging and a hospital stay.

    As Gretchen gets backed into a corner, she throws out that Matt said some messed up stuff that night at dinner, too, including Matt saying, “the second I met Eddie, I knew he was gay.” However, Katie claims that Gretchen is the one who said that to begin with!

    Matt threatens Gretchen with, “do you wanna get into it?” multiple times as Gretchen interrupts left and right.  Matt says there are phone logs and records proving Slade’s need to manipulate the narrative. Gretchen explains that Slade thinks Matt and Katie are not only talking to bloggers, but making up stories about Gretchen and Slade! 

    Andy points out that if Gretchen actually went to the hospital so long ago, it would have been a HUGE deal.  Katie knows Gretchen lied about going, but she is not the one responsible for the lie.  It seems like Gretchen got caught up in the tale and perhaps embellished it a bit for her audience? It is interesting that Slade is not there to share his side of the story. 

    Matt points out that Gretchen is Slade’s fourth Housewife, but Gretchen corrects him. She is his third.  Katie claims that Jenn messed with her paycheck and livelihood when she let Katie go down in flames.  This enrages Jenn.  Jenn wants Katie to start taking ownership of the situation.  And, at the end of the day, Jenn lost a friend in Katie…

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  • RHOC Reunion Recap: Gretchen Calls Tamra a “F—king Liar” After Tamra is Called Out for Bringing Up Dirt on Cast, Plus Tamra Tells Shannon to Shut Up, Katie Confronts Emily, and Gina Apologizes to Katie

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    The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion begins for season 19. Part one brings Katie back onto our screens after being missing from the latter half of the episodes. It also brings a “new” Tamra, which is laughable since all she does is fly off the handle any time Shannon speaks. But when Gretchen joins the group, she is ready to clear up some of the lies and set the record straight with Tamra.

    Andy greets all of the Housewives, and we learn that Shannon is fresh off a week at the Golden Door. Heather is happy about her quick commute for the reunion, and Emily explains that despite having a rough season, she managed to lose 25-30 pounds. Gina is loving the real estate business, and Katie is thrilled to be on set. Jenn (thankfully) was not dressed by Ryan, and Tamra promises she won’t be quitting today (yet). She explains that she is in better spirits because Teddi has zero tumors detected. 

    Tamra wants to be less reactive, but even Andy feels like Tamra’s behavior was not much different than the way she acted in the past. Tamra DID attend Alexis’ wedding and admits she feels weird talking about how beautiful it was in front of Shannon. Because Jenn chose Shannon over Alexis, she was uninvited and then reinvited. Exhausting.

    Shannon mutters that she did not get the grace that Tamra always asks for. She refers to Tamra as “Tamra Grudge” for the way she behaved all season. Tamra explains that Alexis said that Shannon was trying to ice Tamra out to try and get her off the show, but Shannon scoffs at this. Katie loves a chance to throw someone under the bus, so she calls Shannon out. Apparently, Jenn told Katie that Shannon called a producer about Tamra, but Andy debunks this rumor.

    When it comes to NOT trusting Tamra with sensitive information, Heather explains that she is a “historical friend” of Tamra’s. Her inconsistent and unpredictable behavior is what makes Heather a bit leery. After all, Tamra throws people’s secrets in their faces to hurt them. Take, for instance, when Tamra brought up Shannon’s dad’s drinking habits on screen. Tamra wonders why it’s okay for Shannon to discuss her familial drinking back in 2020, but when she brings it up, she gets in trouble.

    Shannon gets emotional, and Tamra claims she was not trying to single her dad out, since it was not her place at all. Jenn wonders when Tamra might look in the mirror and realize the issues are all stemming from HER. Tamra’s plan is to stay calm, apologize, and take accountability.

    Katie was accused of “stirring a pot of deception” this season. The viewers rallied around Katie after the lie detector episode, and it is clear that the women are shocked by the support Katie is receiving.

    Katie is still claiming she only sent the voice memo of Shannon freaking out to her husband, Matt, but Alexis also said she heard the recording. Before Shannon has the chance to question Katie, Tamra jumps in and brings up how Shannon filmed Vicki back in the day without her knowing it. Shannon claims this was done for safety during a fight between Vicki and her husband, but that’s a prime example of Tamra being Tamra and dredging up the past.

    Last year at the reunion, Emily brought up Katie’s custody battle with her children. Katie still wonders why Emily thought that would EVER be an okay thing to do and doesn’t understand why she has to explain herself 12 years later. Emily is tired of Katie using bloggers and journalists to fight her battles, and Katie apologizes for what occurred. 

    Jenn is still suffering from amnesia anytime she is in the hot seat, and she can’t remember saying Katie was a con artist. She merely thinks things do not add up with Katie.

    Katie told US Weekly that she felt set up and believes Emily was behind the whole lie detector situation. According to Emily, Katie said on camera that she would take a lie detector test. Emily admits a lie detector is ~36% accurate, and Emily’s only input was that the women come up with the questions anonymously. Emily denies setting Katie up and states she already knows Katie is lying — no machine needs to figure that out.

    Tamra points out that Emily says a lot of things in her confessionals about her, but she does not say the snide comments to her face. When Shannon comes in to remind Tamra that she makes snide comments too, Tamra jumps down her throat. Emily apologizes for saying Tamra never had girlfriends, but I think her fingers are crossed.

    Gina addresses the alleged racist comments about Katie’s clothing. Gina feels like it may have triggered a trauma in Katie, and Gina says she is sorry. Katie thinks it seemed inappropriate and denies calling her the R-word; rather, it had undertones of that type of behavior. Katie is the first Asian on RHOC in 18 years, and so she does not take any of this lightly. Katie accepts Gina’s apology, and Shannon gets in on this apology tour. Katie hopes there is a chance to move forward.

    In the meantime, Gretchen is prepping to clear up all the BS. She continues to deny saying that Tamra drugged her, and she is ready to show them that Gretchers means business.

    Emily can barely hold it together as she talks about her son Luke. Thanks to some viewer moms, Emily was alerted to PANDAS, a condition that can develop within a kid after having strep throat. Luke had a bad case of strep throat in January, and all of his symptoms are associated with this, especially as a child on the spectrum. She goes on to explain that Luke is going to have laser treatment on his brain to reduce the swelling. When it comes to her relationship with Shane, Emily calls it solid, but she wishes she had more emotional support. The Wife Swap episode did help her open her eyes to how much Shane does in their household. 

    Jenn gets to share that Dawson graduated from boot camp, despite passing out, and Tamra had a conversation and a HUG with her estranged daughter, Sidney. Shannon’s daughter is still traveling in Europe.

    It’s been 12 years since we’ve seen Gretchen (Jon-Benet Ramsey or Pink Elsa) on this stage. Gretchen explains that she is an influencer as her main source of income and that Slade is a consultant and sits on the Liberace foundation board (what?!). Guess Tamra can’t be responsible for Slade not having work…

    When it comes to Gretchen and Slade’s relationship, Heather makes it clear that their finances are no one’s business, but because of her reservations about his financial situation, it seemed like the proposal was fake. Andy even admits he thought Gretchen would want to get married on TV and have Bravo pay for the wedding. Tamra muses, “In God’s eyes, don’t you think you should be married?” Gretchen retorts that they had a ceremony… just no legal paperwork.

    Gretchen wishes that she had not brought up the Tamra affair rumor (which has been denied by all parties), but Tamra calls BS. Emily is irritated because Tamra and Gretchen called a truce, and then this happened. The 17-year feud with Tamra has been exhausting. Gretchen apologizes, but she points out that the alleged affair is in the press. It’s weird that Tamra is the only one who can bring up old dirt on people, and Tamra actually proves this point TWICE while talking to Andy. Shannon calls it “pure hypocrisy” before Tamra bites her head off. Looks like Tamra’s plan to stay calm, apologize, and take accountability can go right out the window as she goes back and forth with Gretchen about who is the worst liar…

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  • RHOC’s Gretchen Rossi Explains Her Lack of Reaction to Claims of ‘Liking’ Anti-LGBTQ Posts as Tamra Reveals What Made it “Worse” & Emily Shares What Was “Concerning”

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    Gretchen Rossi was accused of “liking” a series of controversial posts, including homophobic messages and anti-abortion rights statements, on Thursday’s finale episode of the 19th season of The Real Housewives of Orange County, and after the show aired, the cast commented on her “concerning” lack of a reaction.

    As Gretchen, 47, explained why she didn’t have much to say after the accusations were made, her co-stars, including Emilly Simpson, 49, Tamra Judge, 58, and Heather Dubrow, 56, raised suspicions as Shannon Beador, 61, attempted to defend her.

    “I was so confused because, in my heart, I’m like, ‘There’s no way I would’ve liked a post like that.’ What am I supposed to say to this? I know fundamentally in my heart what I feel and how I believe, so, but it’s like, how are you supposed to defend that in that moment?” Gretchen wondered on the October 30 episode of the RHOC: After Show. “I was legitimately in shock and confused. And then it just got weirder and weirder and weirder.”

    “I thought you would have come unhinged if you knew in your soul that it was not you,” Jennifer Pedranti, 48, replied.

    Meanwhile, Emily, who said she would have been “livid” if similar accusations were made against her, expected Gretchen to lash out at Tamra.

    “I thought that her reaction would’ve been, ‘F*ck you, Tamra. This is you creating bullsh*t about me.’ And that’s what I thought the reaction might be, and then I was gonna sit and analyze that. But there was no reaction from her,” she noted as Tamra added that Gretchen’s lack of a reaction “made it worse.”

    “If someone was accusing me of something, you just want to go, ‘How can I prove that this is ridiculous, that this is so not true?’” Heather reasoned.

    As for what else raised a red flag for Emily, she gave a nod to Gretchen’s chat with Slade Smiley, 51, as she questioned who Gretchen was.

    “The other things that was concerning for me is that she showed no emotion or really any kind of reaction until after she spoke to Slade. I don’t know where you land because I can’t tell what’s genuinely you and what’s Slade guiding you,” she explained.

    Elsewhere, Shannon said she “can’t imagine” that Gretchen did what she’s accused of.

    “I’ve seen a kind, devoted mom, [a] faith-based gal, and a girl who has a lot of friends in the LGBTQ community. So I don’t know. I’m waiting with you to see what happens,” she told Heather. “Something doesn’t make sense about all of it.”

    Shannon then noted that everyone reacts differently to different scenarios.

    Shannon Beador laughs. Gretchen just was blindsided and like, ‘What?’ And some people are [deer] in the [headlights] and some people go, and they’re very vocal about what’s going on. So I don’t want to judge her based on her reaction,” she concluded.

    The three-part Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 reunion begins next Thursday, November 6, at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Shannon Beador Addresses Alexis Wedding Drama, Tamra Saying Jenn Has to Follow Shannon’s Rules, & Vicki Having Alexis on Podcast, Plus Possible Katie Friendship & Reunion

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    Shannon Beador appeared on Thursday’s episode of Watch What Happens Live, where she addressed Tamra Judge‘s claims regarding her supposed rules for her friends and revealed whether she told Jennifer Pedranti to skip the recent wedding of Alexis Bellino and John Janssen.

    After her friendship with Jenn, 48, was called into question on the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County, Shannon, 62, commented on Vicki Gunvalson, 63, welcoming Alexis to her podcast, shared if she’s open to a friendship with Katie Ginella, 41, teased the upcoming reunion, and more.

    “Everyone can make their own choices as to who they want to be friends with,” Shannon stated on the October 23 episode of WWHL after being asked about Tamra, 58, saying she felt bad for Jenn because people have to obey Shannon’s rules if they want to be friends with her.

    “Jenn and I are great friends. I’m friends actually, with pretty much everyone on the cast, except one,” she continued, proceeding to deny that she had told Jenn not to go to Alexis’ wedding.

    “You can see at Tamra’s cake decorating party, she brought it up and I said, ‘Are you going?’ And she said, ’No.’ And I said, ’Thank you,’” she recalled. “But in the end, Alexis did invite her on the day of.”

    While Shannon was blindsided when John broke up with her in late 2022, she said that “a long time” had passed, which has allowed her to move on. 

    “Congratulations. I’ve said publicly, it looked beautiful. It looked like a really pretty wedding. So, good luck,” she told the couple. 

    As for Vicki having Alexis on her podcast, Shannon confirmed her friend reached out to her first.

    “She called me the day that it was happening and told me that it was … Once again, it’s been two years now, so I’m good. I know that where I am in my life has never been better, so I’m fine with Alexis talking to whoever she wants to,” she explained. 

    During a game in which she was asked if she was closing the door on certain things, Shannon revealed that while a Tres Amigas reunion was “not possible,” nor was making peace with Alexis and John, she was open to a future friendship with Katie.

    “What happened was a lot for me. I felt very invaded [by Katie’s secret audio recording] because we were so close at the time she did it. Um, but you know, I’m on a housewife show, so I’ll say never say never,” she shared.

    Also not possible was a reconciliation with Love Hotel‘s Earl “Earl the Pearl” Thompson, 59.

    “That’s shut. That was shut a year ago. So maybe stop using my photos when you’re trying to post things,” she advised, before whispering, “I shouldn’t have said that.”

    Moving on to Gina Kirschenheiter, 41, Shannon was asked about her castmate saying she pushed her away because she held her accountable.

    “Well, we had a talk about that too because she was upset that I didn’t … you know, by the way, I wanted to throw a nice luncheon,” Shannon replied, changing the subject. “And I thought, ‘Let’s do it for Jenn.’ And everyone’s like, ‘Why are we going to this?’ Ugh, why did Tamra have a cake-baking party after she flipped [Gretchen Rossi] off? We have events.”

    When a fan wanted to know if Shannon would ever be able to trust Tamra, who was known for a pattern of “rage, regret, and repeat,” again, Shannon suggested she would not.

    “I think that I’ve come to a good place with her where I can film with her and I can even laugh with her sometimes. But I will never be her close friend again, and that is me making a healthy choice,” she explained. 

    As for the reunion, Shannon said that while she asked herself, “Should I have said that?,” after the taping, she felt that it was a “good reunion.”

    “You said a lot. You did,” Andy Cohen, 57, shared as Shannon asked, “Isn’t that the point?”

    “Yes. I mean it in a good way,” he confirmed, wondering who was in the hot seat the most.

    “Tamra and Gretchen,” Shannon replied.

    Also on the live airing, Shannon shared her rose and thorn of season 19.

    “I think that my rose clearly is that this season was more fun for me and the fact that I was able to develop very strong friendships with a lot of the girls that I didn’t think that I would and my thorn, it’s a thorn with like, nice things around it, is that now I have twice as much poop to clean up with two dogs,” she revealed.

    Later on Thursday night, on the WWHL: After Show, Shannon was asked if she believed there was any merit to what Katie said during her meeting with Tamra.

    “I’m just gonna say that we all have misspoke. There was a year where I said, ‘Don’t accuse me of things I do.’ Well, of course, that’s not what I meant. I [meant] ‘don’t do.’ And so I do not believe that Gretchen said what she said [about being drugged and hospitalized amid her ‘naked wasted’ drama with Tamra on season four]. I think she did misspeak. And, you know, that’s where I stand with it,” she declared.

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC Recap: Gretchen’s Disturbing Social Media Activity Comes to Light as She Breaks Down Over Years-Long Feud With Tamra, Plus Gina Questions Jenn & Shannon’s Friendship

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    The Amsterdam trip continues on this episode of The Real Housewives of Orange CountyShannon is still coming down from the effects of her space cake, Gina’s mushroom micro dose has her running her mouth, and Emily is (shockingly) not tired of stirring the pot.  Gretchen‘s emotional meltdown after trying to clear things up with Tamra dampens the mood, but it’s the post she liked and commented on that really has people questioning just who IS Gretchers?

    The ladies have switched ensemble vibes from leather and lace for the Red Light district to floral and pastels for the tulip field trip. They really love to dress the part.  Heather has decided that micro dosing mushrooms with Gina at 10:20 am would be a fabulous idea in hopes of bringing out the vibrant tulip colors.  

    On the ride there, Tamra calls Gretchen a downer and Emily points out that Gretchen always seems to creep around Tamra.  But it’s not just Gretchen’s name on this van-group’s lips.  Jenn becomes a topic of conversation. Gina believes that Jenn is just “whoever everybody tells her to be.” They all wonder why Shannon is going around saying Jenn is not attending Alexis’s wedding, despite being invited.  Evidently, Shannon told Jenn NOT to go and Tamra sees that Shannon is making Jenn fall into line by obeying her friendship rules.

    The tulip fields are beautiful (mushrooms are not even needed to see the vibrancy, Heather) and Gina is really starting to feel the effects of the ‘shrooms.  She chats with Emily about the Jenn and Shannon of it all and becomes angry.  Gina wonders why Shannon did not throw HER a party to celebrate the fact that she is back together with Travis.  This is a crazy thing to say. Gina feels like Shannon always pushes her away because she holds Shannon accountable and therefore is always the bad guy. 

    The ladies sit down for some lunch and loose-lips-Gina brings up Alexis’s wedding.  According to Emily, a high Gina never STFUs and that very much tracks. Jenn claims that Shannon never outright asked her to not go to Alexis’s wedding.  Emily wonders out loud if Shannon is ok with Jenn being good friends with Alexis.  Don’t her arms ever get tired from all the stirring?!

    Jenn makes it clear that Shannon’s issues with Alexis are only Shannon’s issues. Although Shannon cannot dictate who Jenn is friends with, their friendship is now getting judged by Shannon. 

    Gina blurts out that Jenn did not even want the shower luncheon Shannon threw.  In fact, according to Gina, Jenn thought it was “ridiculous.” Jenn is appalled, but tries to backtrack despite questionable video footage.  Gina states she is being honest and wonders why Jenn is trying to foster this “fake friendship.” Shannon is beyond hurt.

    Gina wonders why Shannon didn’t celebrate HER family coming back together.  No one knows what the issue is, so Emily enters to try and figure out the authenticity of Shannon and Jenn’s friendship because it is totally her business-not.

    Shannon is left feeling stupid, wondering where she stands with Jenn, and the group piles back into the vans. Jenn and Gretchen chat about being content creators and explain that it’s a full-blown business.  Gretchen calls herself a serial entrepreneur and she wants Jenn to get in on this side hustle, but first she needs to drop Ryan on all her Instagram posts.

    Emily thinks it is hilarious to gift the women tacky trucker hats with even tackier sayings on them.  When Heather dons an “I heart c*ck” hat, we know that hell is freezing over.  They split into two groups and get into hot tub boats on the canal.  Emily forces Gretchen and Tamra into one “crockpot” in an effort to have them make amends.

    On the other boat, Shannon thought things were different with Jenn.  Jenn led Shannon to believe that she is not friendly with Alexis, therefore she is now questioning the honesty between them. Shannon wants Jenn to understand that Alexis crossed certain lines and wonders why Jenn would think Alexis is so great. 

    In the meantime, Emily is doing the most trying to get Gretchen and Tamra on the same page.  Gretchen admits to messing up the night in LA, but Tamra wonders what intentions Gretchen had at the charity event when she confronted her with Slade. The pact they made at the beach to move on got breached almost immediately because it’s a never ending tit-for-tat cycle. 

    Gretchen realizes that Emily is being a flip-flopper in this situation.  Tamra tells Gretchen she is “not relevant, which perpetuates the cycle.  Emily points out that Gretchen is guilty in this mess and so Gretchen claims she will be more introspective. Gretchen plans on taking accountability, but notice Tamra stays mum.

    Gretchen states that Tamra has yet to take Jesus Christ into her heart, so why should she change now and be an apologetic person?

    As they walk off the boat, Tamra reads a headline on her phone and she questions Jenn right away.  Jenn admits that she DOES have to pay a 6 figure judgement after a lawsuit for allegedly not paying rent on her studio.  The modified rent plan during Covid is now forcing Jenn to pay back that money. Tamra feels like Jenn could have been better off financially if she made smarter decisions. 

    Gretchen becomes upset in the Sprinter because she feels like all of the things said over the years about Tamra and to Tamra are pretty ugly.  She cries that she doesn’t want to hurt anyone, but the nastiness is more of a defense mechanism. 

    Because of Gretchen’s emotions, she is choosing to come late to the dinner.   In the meantime, Shannon and Jenn are making up synchronized dances in the food hall, proving that their friendship is still going strong.

    As they dine, Tamra states that she is “bugged.” The ladies try to tell her that in the bus, Gretchen showed her genuine side and this time, it seems like she really means her apology.

    Gretchen eventually rolls up, two hours late, and the mood changes. Despite Gina and Emily trying to move the storyline along, Gretchen is still not ready to talk about her break down.  She explains that it stems from pain, but Tamra points out that Gretchen keeps bringing things up. 

    Although it was a long time ago, things bubbled up once again for Gretchen and she is wishing it was different. Heather reminds Gretchen that everyone has to be accountable and Gretchen apologizes (again) for bashing Tamra for 12 years.

    The next day, Gina and Emily debrief. Gina claims she is struggling with Gretchen because of something she saw on social media.  About two weeks ago, Gina was at the dispensary with Tamra and she brought up these “alarming” posts that Gretchen liked.  Gretchen even commented on some of the posts and Gina is having a hard time believing that is who Gretchen is at her core.

    While the show doesn’t go into detail on the exact posts, they appear to be referring to screenshots that appear to show Gretchen liking homophobic posts on social media. Gretchen has since claimed the screenshots of that seemingly show her liking these posts are fake. 

    Gina can’t let this whole situation go: “Once you see stuff like this, you gotta call it out and not ignore it.” It isn’t adding up that Gretchen would be launching hate campaigns, but Gina wants Gretchen to explain herself…

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  • RHOC’s Jo De La Rosa Calls Out Jenn for Pretending Not to Know Her & Leaks Their Texts, Plus Details Past Friendship With Gretchen & Unaired Fight as Jenn Claps Back

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    Jo De La Rosa called out Jennifer Pedranti and Gretchen Rossi after the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County.

    In a “fact-checking” post shared to her Instagram Story, Jo, 45, reacted to Jenn, 48, asking, “Who’s Jo,” on the RHOC: After Show. She also fired back at Gretchen, 46, who downplayed their past friendship and accused her of being “desperate” to regain her position on the Bravo reality series.

    “What’s wild to me is I literally met Jenn at the season finale last year at her engagement party. I thought she was the sweetest, nicest person. I used to work for [Ryan Boyajian]. I got her number. I said, ‘It was so nice to meet you.’ And then I was trying to get together with her for lunch because I had some things I wanted to tell her.”

    She continued, “So we have text messages, trying to figure out a time to get together. So I just think it’s wild when she’s asking Gretchen who I am because she knows who I am,” Jo explained, showcasing a text exchange between them.

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    Moving on to Gretchen, Jo said they’ve had a “very long and messy journey.”

    “We started out years ago as friends — even though she claims we weren’t friends. So maybe that was my mistake. I thought we were,” Jo admitted. “She was literally in the back of my music video back in the day when I used to do music, and I invited all my friends to be there. I had gone on a double date with her when I was with [Slade Smiley]. She had come to an iHeartRadio event with me. In my head, that’s definitely more than an acquaintance.”

    Jo even “tried to be there for” Gretchen amid her legal drama with ex-boyfriend, Jay Photoglou, whom she accused of defamation years ago.

    They were even friendly at a BravoCon event years ago, where they presented Vicki Gunvalson, 63, with the Wifetime Achievement Award.

    “I went up to Gretchen after years of not talking to her, and I just said, ‘If there’s anything that I ever said, I’m sorry. I just want to start over,’” Jo recalled. “[And] all I was looking for in that moment was an apology back. I never got it. Fine. But I truly felt we were starting over again.”

    But amid filming on RHOC season 19, Jo learned Gretchen had been trash-talking her on podcasts, “talking about how desperate [she was] … to get back on the show.”

    Gretchen also accused Jo of “calling all the housewives” to try to get back on the show. However, when Jo created a group chat for the cast, she did so in an effort to gather donations for one of her friends, who had been impacted by the recent fires in Los Angeles.

    As for claims of calling production, Jo said she did call one of her producers, whom she’d known for years, to tell her she enjoyed being on the finale and would be open to future appearances.

    “I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, considering I was first season cast,” she reasoned. “[Gretchen’s] continuing to spin a narrative that’s not true. I’ve stayed quiet long enough.”

    “Her and I are not good, and there was actually an entire argument that happened at [Heather Dubrow]’s party that never got shown,” she continued. “An entire blowout happened. Slade jumped in at one point, which, I’m so sorry. Gretchen doesn’t need a mouthpiece. You don’t need to speak for her. She can defend herself. It just, it got ugly. It got messy, and at one point, Gretchen grabs Jenn and brings her in to try to make her point, and I’m just not down with the whole gang up.”

    Lastly, Jo took aim at Gretchen for calling her “Slade’s ex.”

    “My name is Jo. You can call me one of the original cast members on housewives, and we can call your husband ‘Joe’s ex,’” she declared.

    Following the sharing of the video, Jenn clapped back at Jo, wondering why she felt the need to make her claims against her in public, rather than reaching out in private. 

    “Hi Jo- girl you still have my number!!” she began. “I thought the EXACT same thing about you! I felt like you were so sweet and kind! I absolutely loved meeting you- I have not watched the after show.. but if I said who’s Jo — to be honest when you showed up at my filmed engagement party last year that was the first time I met you.. hence why I said ‘who is Jo’ … You are correct- since then.. we’ve had a couple of lovely text exchanges. Truly, I don’t see the need to make a TikTok so [Tamra Judge] can go repost it. You could have easily used the number you have for me and we could have had a discussion. Now.. wanting back on the show and doing whatever you need to do to position yourself is a different story.. I can respect that. And if that’s your wishes I truly hope it works for you!!!”

    “You have my number, please call me if you want to chat,” she added.

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    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • Katie Ginella Claims RHOC Costar Called Production to Premeditate Her Takedown, Claps Back at Gina and Addresses Jenn’s Alleged Betrayal, Plus Talks Upcoming Reunion

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    Katie Ginella addressed Gina Kirschenheiter’s comment about “Asian designers,” and why she thinks Jennifer Pedranti “jump[ed] ship.” The Real Housewives of Orange County star also addressed the upcoming reunion, and claimed a costar called production to premeditate her takedown.

    Throughout the new episodes, almost every castmate accused Katie of lying. During a lie detector test, Katie “failed” all the questions – leading to the end of her friendships with Jennifer and Gretchen Rossi. Later on, Katie suggested that Gina and Emily Simpson set up the test so she would fail. Meanwhile, many fans on social media are fiercely siding with Katie, and Jennifer has clapped back at some.

    On Two Ts in a Pod, Katie was asked about Gina’s comment suggesting that Katie wasn’t wearing “Asian designers.”

    “I am not looking to Gina for advice on how to be Asian, or how Asian I need to be. So I’m gonna do that on my own,” she said.

    As for Gina’s suggestion that she might not return if Katie comes back, Katie stated, “I think it’s very sad, and I don’t think I’m that scary … [But] I don’t think [what she’s saying is] the truth.”

    In an interview for ET, Katie addressed her friendship fallout with Jennifer.

    “Jen is someone that I dearly loved, and I felt like last year I stuck up a lot for her in situations regarding the dress at Neiman Marcus and Ryan and all the allegations about Ryan,” said Katie. “I feel like when she saw [them] gang up on me, she thought, ‘Oh, I don’t want to go down with this sinking ship, so I’m going to jump ship basically.’”

    She was asked why Jennifer doesn’t back up her claims.

    “Her hate for Tamra is greater than her love for me, and that’s what all this boils down to,” said Katie. “…[And] the things that she’s doing online are kind of scary. I don’t know … It’s hard. I miss talking to her and I miss the relationship we had, but hopefully we’re going to repair it one day.”

    Katie claimed that the first time she’ll see her castmates in a while will be at the reunion.

    “I will be there,” she said. “I’m hoping to get some apologies. Big ones … I would like to discuss this setup and trying to push me out … [There’s] probably going to be a lot of heat coming my way. It might be everyone on one side and then just me [on the other].”

    Katie said she’s only heard from Tamra Judge since the polygraph drama.

    “[She asks] how [I’m] doing,” said Katie. “She checks in on me, which is really nice.”

    Katie claimed her “biggest regret” of the season was “not standing up for myself,” as she never thought she would be “portrayed as this season’s villain.” Katie found it “suspect” that only Emily, Gina, and Gretchen passed all of their questions on the polygraph.

    She also hinted that certain castmates may not realize there are “biases” behind some of the “words that they are using,” and they should perhaps “do some learning” — as Katie sometimes “felt like an other.”

    According to Katie, one costar told her that a different castmate called the head of production in an attempt to plan her takedown (so Gretchen could take her spot). She suggested that Gina was somehow involved in the plan.

    “I heard from one castmate that another castmate called the head of production and said we need to give Gretchen Katie’s orange. We want her out,” claimed Katie.

    She continued, “So that’s where the planning started from the very beginning of the season. I also think you see in the episode where Gina says to Gretchen, ‘Don’t worry, we have a plan.’ And then says to Tamara, ‘We got her. Don’t worry.’ So, I think a lot of things were premeditated and planned.”

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  • Katie Ginella Accused of Using Bots for Social Media Support Amid Lie Detector Drama on RHOC

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    A fan accused Katie Ginella of using “bots” to support her on social media – amid her controversial drama with Emily Simpson, Gina Kirschenheiter, Gretchen Rossi, and Jennifer Pedranti on the Real Housewives of Orange County.

    In a recent episode, Emily introduced castmates to a surprise lie detector test. According to the results, Katie “failed” a question about whether Gretchen really told her that Tamra Judge drugged her in a past season. After the test, Gretchen and Jennifer seemed to end their friendship with Katie.

    On social media, many fans (and Tamra) have expressed support for Katie – while calling out Gretchen and Jennifer. Katie has suggested that Emily and Gina set up the lie detector test using a paid actor.

    Last week, Redditor u/Prudent-Experience-3 accused Katie of using bots. According to the user, the similarities of the following TikTok comments indicate that they’re coming from bots. Two of the commenters have the same name.

    “Katie is bringing her A-game, no doubt about it. It’s clear she’s not here to mess around!” wrote a user named Evely.

    “Katie’s bringing the heat! Definitely someone to watch this season,” wrote a different fan, Amely.

    “Katie’s definitely bringing the heat! Her energy is unmatched this season,” wrote a Julia.

    “Katie is bringing the heat this season! Her presence is already making waves. Can’t wait to see what she does next!” wrote another Amely.

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    The Redditor then expressed why they believe it’s the work of bots.

    “Not only is [Katie] bad at doing the housewive[s] bloggers game, but she’s also bad at doing the housewive[s] botting game,” said the Redditor. “I really like Katie. Her lying is funny, her flooding the zone with more lies at the ladies tactic is even more funny, and how bad she is at doing housewives politics is even more funny.”

    “Now with this botting game, she couldn’t even get bots with different names,” the user went on. “You got amely and other amely repeating the same message. IDK, this whole thing is funny to me.”

    New episodes of The Real Housewives of Orange County air on Thursday nights on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Heather Dubrow Defends Katie Ginella After Lie Detector & Calls Out Emily for Not Being “Fair” as Katie Talks Being ‘Hurt’ by Jenn and If They Could Reconcile

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    Katie Ginella opened up about the loss of her friendship with Jennifer Pedranti after Thursday night’s episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County as Heather Dubrow defended her over the lie detector test drama.

    As Jenn, 48, also spoke of her heartbreak over their ended relationship and the rest of the cast looked back on the fallout from Katie’s failed lie detector test, Katie, 41, explained what hurt her the most about Jenn, shared her season 19 regrets, and revealed if she felt it was possible for her and Jenn to make amends.

    “I did [know our friendship was over after our coffee date],” Katie said on the September 4 episode of the RHOC: After Show. “I think I was most hurt because I didn’t even hear from her that night, and if the tables were turned, I would’ve called her, text her, even if I thought she was in the wrong, she is a friend. I would’ve checked on her. I think she said all she needed to say without saying anything.”

    While Katie suspected that failing the lie detector test after being questioned about what Gretchen Rossi, 46, told her about the “naked wasted” incident with Tamra Judge, 58, was the “last straw” for Jenn, she confirmed it was not for her.

    “Even though it’s been hard and really hurtful, I could still move on from that with Jenn because I care about her so much,” she stated. “I so hope Jenn and I can move past it and move on and be friends again because I really miss her. I woke up every morning at 7, and we laid in bed and talked every single morning … It literally just makes me sad.”

    Looking back, Katie said that she made a mistake when she decided to trust certain people.

    “I don’t trust anybody 1757149626,” she admitted. “I think my problem last year, 2024, all the sh*t that’s come up, I trusted too many people. I’m just an oversharer who trusts everybody.”

    Meanwhile, Heather, 56, admitted that she didn’t like how Katie left after the lie detector test.

    “I was upset that Emily didn’t give Katie the opportunity to say something because I didn’t think that was fair,” she explained.

    In her own segment, Jenn revealed she told Katie on multiple occasions, “Do you want to be friends in this friend group? … Because you’re going about it so wrong.” Still, when she reflected on their friendship, signaling the early episodes of season 19, Jenn said she missed the relationship they had.

    “When I watch these early episodes with her, it’s so hard for me cuz I miss that friendship. I miss that person,” she said. 

    As for their recent communication, Jenn said they texted after their coffee date.

    “We have had a text exchange. She texted me that she was heartbroken. I’ve been heartbroken too. And she said I’m available if you wanna talk. Here’s the thing: Yeah, let’s have a conversation, but you’ve gotta meet me with some realness,” she noted.

    Elsewhere in the RHOC: After Show, Shannon Beador, 61, said it wasn’t her decision to kick Katie out of the friend group.

    “I didn’t particularly say, ‘You’re out of the group.’ [Emily Simpson] said, ‘Get out of my house.’ I just sat there in awe that it was all happening,” she said.

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Katie Ginella Explains Why She Failed Lie Detector as Gretchen and Jenn Feel Vindicated After Result, Plus Shannon & Heather React

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    Katie Ginella may have failed her lie detector test on last week’s episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County, but after the show aired, she offered an explanation as to why.

    As the cast, including Tamra Judge, 57, Gretchen Rossi, 46, and Jennifer Pedranti, 48, reacted to Katie’s failed test, with Jenn stating that she stepped back from her friendship with Katie, 41, due to her lies, Katie suggested that a medical condition was to blame, as was the “non-certified” test itself.

    “I really was like, ‘F*ck yeah. Let’s go.’ If there’s a time that the truth is gonna come out, it’s gonna come out now,” Gretchen recalled on the August 28 episode of the RHOC: After Show of how she felt going into the test.

    Meanwhile, after getting in the car to go to Emily Simpson‘s home, where the test was held, Katie realized she’d forgotten to take her anti-anxiety medicine.

    “But I was like, ‘I’ll be fine. No problem.’ And I go there, and the anxiety made me get sick. I was, like, puking when I got there. It’s just too much. I’m getting glares from [Shannon Beador]. She’s, like, daggering me, and I was like, ‘This is too much.’ I just started to get sick. It was just too much anxiety. It was too much,” she explained.

    Then, amid the test, Katie was asked if she was “an anxious person” because her heart was “jumping.”

    “I was anxious, not only to be in this group of women, but then to sit in Emily’s closet and do a random non-certified polygraph test. Not in a controlled environment; in her closet,” she noted.

    After the results of the test were shared, Tamra stated, “All the questions, [Gina Kirschenheiter] passed, and [Emily] passed all of yours. Katie failed all of them.”

    Still, Katie insisted she “had nothing to gain from lying” about what Gretchen allegedly told her about being hospitalized after the “naked wasted” episode of season four.

    “I didn’t do anything. Why would I self-implode like that? There’s literally no reason,” she argued.

    In addition to Gretchen admitting she was “really relieved” when Katie’s results were shared because they were what she “needed everybody else to hear,” Jenn said she felt vindicated as well.

    “It was to a point for me where, ‘Is what Katie is telling me real? Or is Katie also not telling me everything?’ And I kept supporting and I kept backing and I kept defending, then all the other girls are getting frustrated with me … and so it was almost like, for me, like, now I don’t feel like an a**hole for taking a step back from this friendship,” she reasoned.

    Also on the RHOC: After Show, Shannon, 61, admitted it was “a bit chilling” that Katie “failed every single question,” as Heather Dubrow, 56, said she not only failed the whole test, but did so in a way that led the administrator to say they’d “never seen someone fail so tremendously.”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • Katie Ginella’s Husband Matt Details Slade’s Frantic ‘911’ Text Amid Gretchen Drama, Slams Jenn & Ryan for Protecting Couple, and Shades Emily as a “Mall Cop” Lawyer, Plus Accuses RHOC Cast of “Relentless” Bullying

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    Katie Ginella‘s husband, Matt Ginella, detailed a “911” text and phone call he got from Slade Smiley during a podcast appearance last week.

    As he looked back on the fallout involving Katie’s claims about what Gretchen Rossi, 46, had or hadn’t told her about the moments that followed her “naked wasted” ordeal with Tamra Judge, 57, Matt recalled the moment he was contacted by Slade, 51, amid the Real Housewives of Orange County cast’s girls’ trip to New Orleans.

    “I get a 911 text from Slade. It gives me chills saying this right now. I was like, ‘What has happened to my wife?’” Matt shared on the August 29 episode of Don’t Let It Stu.

    Although he was initially worried that something had happened to his spouse, Matt learned after calling his co-star that Slade’s concern was in regard to a dinner date he and Katie, 41, had with Slade, Gretchen, Jennifer Pedranti, 48, and Ryan Boyajian, 49, months prior.

    “These are his exact words: ‘Katie might have just sealed her own fate … She told Kiki Monique what we told you guys the night of Maestro’s, and now it’s getting back out to the group. This is really bad. You need to call Katie, and you essentially need to have her hold the line and say it wasn’t said,’” Matt shared.

    According to Matt, Slade informed him that he was on the other line with executive producer Alex Baskin, claiming he was “pissed” about the suggestion that Gretchen had allegedly said she was roofied and hospitalized.

    “[Slade] was in like, full backpedal, and I’m like, again, this guy started [RHOC]. I don’t know what his connections … I don’t know what his relationships are with top production or whatever. I don’t know if he’s on with Alex Baskin. I just know that I know Alex Baskin is important. He’s powerful, and apparently, he’s pissed,” Matt continued.

    But after calling Katie and asking her if she’d spoken to Kiki, Katie denied it.

    @hurrdatentertainment Katie Ginella’s Husband EXPOSES Slade & Gretchen’s Role in KatieGate 👀 #rhoc #oc #realhousewives #podcast #dontletitstu @CHEF STUART ♬ original sound – Hurrdat Entertainment

    Matt also recounted what had gone down at Maestro’s during their group dinner, alleging that Slade was there only to make sure that he and Katie would join him in being “anti-Tamra.”

    “This story was told to us. We didn’t ask for it. We’re sitting there going, ‘Wow, that’s crazy. That’s some crazy sh*t,’” he revealed.

    As for why Jenn has denied Katie’s claims about what Gretchen said that night about the “naked wasted” incident, Matt accused her and Ryan of “covering and pretending” on Gretchen and Slade’s behalf because they “hate Tamra so much.”

    Matt then described how the story evolved as it was passed on.

    “A credible journalist gets told this story by Katie, apparently. Kiki said multiple times that it’s off the record, and I love hearing that now, she’s saying that she had an off-the-record conversation with Dave Quinn, who I guess took it to Tamra,” he stated. “The panic button was hit, and Slade was like, ‘Oh sh*t, that whole little embellishment I was doing for whatever reason…’”

    Moving on to the other women, Matt pointed out that Jenn and Katie “were real friends.”

    “This was a true friendship. Katie rode for Jenn, supported Jenn, believed Jenn, backed Jenn to the other women. She did everything that I think she thought Jenn would do for her, and Jenn didn’t,” he said.

    As for Emily Simpson, 49, Matt poked fun at her legal career.

    “For this mall cop of a lawyer to hire a lie detector when she knows it’s not admissible in court, the whole scene turns on a dime. It’s all a light, happy, ‘Oh, that’s not true.’ ‘Okay, that’s fine.’ But here comes Katie. Goes last. Misses all of them. ‘No one believes you.’ ‘You’re a horrible person,’” he recalled. 

    “This has been a nonstop, relentless projection and assault and bullying of grown women to a grown woman. [Shannon Beador]’s storyline? Katie. Jenn’s storyline? Katie. Gretchen’s storyline? Katie. [Gina Kirschenheiter] and Emily’s storyline? Katie,” he concluded.

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  • RHOC’s Katie Ginella Calls Out Jenn for Refusing to Back Up Her Gretchen Story, Admits to “Weeks” of Crying, and Reveals Matt and Slade Phone Call as Emily & Tamra Weigh In

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    Katie Ginella took aim at Jennifer Pedranti after she failed to have her back amid the lie detector test fiasco on The Real Housewives of Orange County on Thursday night.

    After attempting to convince Jenn, 48, to speak up and confirm her story about Gretchen Rossi‘s alleged claims that she was roofied and hospitalized amid her “naked wasted” encounter with Tamra Judge, 57, Katie lashed out at her former friend, accusing her of lying and suggesting she wanted her to be berated by their castmates.

    “You must be f*cking lying because I know what I heard at that restaurant, and that’s why in that moment, I pointed to Jenn, I was like, ‘Jenn, you know she said that.’ We had just talked a month before on the phone about it, with [Ryan Boyajian] and [Slade Smiley] on the phone. How do you not remember this?” Katie wondered on the August 28 episode of the RHOC: After Show.

    “That’s the most disappointing part of this whole thing, is I don’t know why Jenn won’t just say, ‘I heard it too,’” she continued. “I cried for weeks about this. Why would you wanna see me get annihilated? Why wouldn’t you just say, ‘Hey Gretchen, I think you did slip up and say that?’”

    Even Emily Simpson, 49, wondered why Jenn didn’t take more of a stand — in one way or another.

    “Jenn is the one person that could clarify everything that was said and what happened, and you can’t get a clear answer from her, and that’s what’s frustrating for me … Jenn could be the truth in all of this,” she noted.

    But according to Jenn, Gretchen “did not tell me that [she] went to the hospital.” Instead, she only told her that she was so sick that she felt like she could have. So, when Katie shared her story and prompted her to respond, Jenn felt as if she was being used. 

    “It kept feeling like I was this lifeline that kept getting thrown out. Like, ‘If I use Jenn, my story is valid,’” she explained. “I felt like you girls as a whole were starting to look at me like, ‘Well Katie said you were there,’ or ‘Katie said you heard it,’ or ‘Katie said,’ and that’s where I was like, ‘Come on Katie, start speaking for you … stick to what you think and feel and stop grouping me with your same thoughts and feelings.’”

    As for Katie’s failure of the lie detector test, Jenn admitted to feeling “heartsick.”

    “I was looking at Katie at the other couch, knowing this moment is horrible for her but yet, I [couldn’t] save [her] anymore,” she recalled.

    Also on the RHOC: After Show, after Tamra suggested that the only way the real story would be revealed is if Jenn “turns on Gretchen,” Katie explained why Jenn didn’t speak up.

    “I think when she saw I was getting in the mess, she didn’t want to get in the mess, and that’s why she’s like, ‘I didn’t hear it.’ Because she’s friends with both of us. Or she was friends with both of us,” she shared. “[But] we all heard it. It was me, [Matt Ginella], Ryan, Jenn, Gretchen, [and] Slade. We were all talking about how f*cked up it was.”

    Katie then said that Matt no longer speaks to Slade as she detailed Slade’s efforts to keep her from repeating the supposed story.

    “We were in New Orleans, and Slade called him, I don’t know how many times, over and over and over. I think Slade calling Matt 20 times in a row, frantic, texting him ‘911,’ why would he do this if I just made this up and lied about it? He wouldn’t,” she concluded.

    Meanwhile, on her Instagram Story, Katie continued to address the matter, sharing a clip from the H3 Podcast in which it was noted that the man behind the lie detector test, John Grogan, had been “exposed” by YouTube user Ludwig.

    In the video, Ludwig explained that he paid John $1,000 for a lie detector test before being told, “We’re not gonna be able to do a legitimate polygraph test.”

    “A polygraph test is very slow, very boring. When you give an answer, I have to read the results for a little bit before giving a reply back. A lot of the time, it’s inconclusive. You won’t even have a true or false and it’s never an outright lie,” John supposedly continued. “There’s just some things that trend toward lies, and I can’t speak with such exact verbiage. I have to be a bit more vague.”

    Ludwig went on to suggest that John’s test was for “entertainment purposes” as he claimed that he had been willing to be dishonest about his results.

    “If there’s ever an answer you want, tap me on the foot … that’ll let me know that that should be a lie. You don’t tap me, it’ll be a truth,” John reportedly told him.

    @h3_podcastLudwig finally exposed the lie YouTube detector guy♬ original sound – H3 Podcast

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  • Tamra Judge Says Jenn is the “Janet” of RHOC, Explains Calling Slade a “Deadbeat Dad” and Shares Regret Over IG Feud With Gretchen

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    Tamra Judge compared Jennifer Pedranti to Janet Caperna during an interview on Lala Kent‘s podcast on Wednesday.

    As she also shared new details about her troubled past with Gretchen Rossi, 46, explained the reasoning behind her “deadbeat dad” statement against Slade Smiley, 51, and revealed what she regretted about their recent Instagram feud, the 57-year-old Real Housewives of Orange County star looked back on her FBI drama with Ryan Boyajian, 49, and spoke of how Jenn, 48, was cast on the show.

    “[Jenn] was a Janet. She wanted to be on the show,” Tamra declared on the August 20 episode of Give Them Lala.

    As fans of The Valley may have heard, Janet was accused of being a “fan” of Vanderpump Rules and plotting a run-in with Scheana Shay, 40, which ultimately got her on the show.

    As for how Jenn was cast on the show, Tamra said that she asked several women, including Jenn, who frequented her former gym, CUT Fitness, at the prompting of the producers.

    “They reached out to her, they passed on her, and they brought [Braunwyn Windham-Burke] on … At the time [she was still married to William Pedranti]. So I never gave her name ever again, never said anything to casting about anybody, and then years later I get a text message saying, ‘Hey, the show’s reaching out to me,’ and I’m like, ‘Oh, well, try out. It could be good for you.’ I know that’s what she’s always wanted, and I didn’t have any hard feelings for her … we just weren’t close,” she said.

    After Jenn joined RHOC in 2023 for season 17, it was suggested that she was a “best friend” of Tamra’s. However, according to Tamra, that wasn’t the case.

    “I’m like, ‘I invited you to a few things and you came to my gym … But by no means were we best friends,’“ she clarified.

    Reflecting on her comments about Jenn wanting to be her, Tamra said that the on-camera conversation was tricky because she was trying to explain herself without breaking the fourth wall.

    “I feel like she kind of honed in on me and started going to my gym and doing all these things,” Tamra noted.

    She then stated that she never called the old image she shared of Jenn a “fatty photo.”

    “She’s not fat. She had been coming to my gym. I met her at my gym … she was heavier than she is now, but by no means fat … She’s always had an amazing body, but now she’s very, very thin,” Tamra explained.

    Although Tamra acknowledged that Jenn had become “more vocal” in her confessionals, she didn’t note that as a good thing. Instead, she suggested Jenn used her interviews to paint a certain narrative.

    “[Jenn] and I are a lot different. She likes to play victim on things and drag things out,” she explained.

    Moving on to another castmate, Gretchen, Tamra said that despite her efforts to turn over a new leaf, she and Gretchen were unable to get to a better place amid filming.

    “I try all season long to get to a better place with her, and you’ll see as it goes on,” she teased.

    While Tamra has been accused of trash-talking Gretchen and her longtime fiance, Slade, Tamra insisted that she’s only repeated widely-known reports.

    “The only time I’ve ever said anything is when his son passed away, and the mother put out a statement on TMZ, and [Teddi Mellencamp] read it in our headlines. That was it … I made zero false allegations against Slade in my podcast … Teddi read the headlines,” she explained.

    Tamra also said she “never called” Slade a “deadbeat dad” before noting that she repeated the information found in the press.

    “‘Deadbeat dad?’” she asked. “It was in the press. If my husband wasn’t paying child support and it was in the press, do you think no one’s gonna bring it up?”

    “I also said, ‘This is Slade’s son, and that’s hard and it’s sad.’ I promoted the GoFundMe and Teddi, and I donated $1,000,” she continued. “[But] I feel like when people get stuck on things from the past, it’s because they’re true.”

    Looking back on her recent IG feud with Gretchen, Tamra said that when she called for more compassion from her castmates, she was not referring to Gretchen.

    “I don’t expect it from Gretchen or Jen .. Where I want it from like [Emily Simpson], Gina, and [Heather Dubrow], and Heather’s been very, very kind to me and has been through the process with me, and [Dr. Terry Dubrow] being a doctor, he got on the phone with me in the beginning when Teddi got sick and talked to me about things,” she revealed. “They were always there for me.”

    Tamra then admitted to regretting the post that sparked the feud, which saw Gretchen suggesting she was hypocritical for wanting sympathy when she didn’t give it to her when she went through hard times.

    “After I posted it, I’m like, ‘Why did I do that? I shouldn’t have done that. It was too impulsive, but now it’s out there. Sh*t, what do I do?’ By midday, I’m like, ‘Take it down,’” Tamra recalled of the message that additionally gave a nod to Shannon Beador‘s DUI.

    Also on Lala’s podcast, Tamra looked back on her FBI feud with Ryan, saying, “With the FBI, I didn’t just pull it out of my a**. It was out there. It came out.”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • ‘RHOC’ Star Heather Dubrow Says She “Lit Gina Up” Over Claims She Researched Katie’s Past, Hints at “Irrefutable Proof” Against Katie

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    Heather Dubrow revealed she “lit [Gina Kirschenheiter] up” on the phone after she shared on Watch What Happens Live that Heather sent information about Katie Ginella’s custody situation to Emily Simpson (who exposed it on the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion). Heather also named co-stars who pass around stories, and she seemingly hinted at “irrefutable proof” against Katie.

    Earlier this season, Tamra Judge told Gretchen Rossi that Katie was claiming Gretchen accused Tamra of ‘roofieing’ her. Gretchen chose to believe her friend Katie, who denied it. But rumors are swirling that Katie later had a falling out with Gretchen and Jennifer Pedranti.

    On Virtual Reali-Tea, Heather shared how she reacted to Gina’s interview.

    “I called her,” said Heather. “She didn’t answer … She saw. I texted her, and she called me the next day. She did apologize. But here’s the thing, which is really important to understand. At that period of time, between the end of the season and the reunion, a lot of stories came out about Katie … And we were all sending them to each other. So me to Emily, Emily to Gina, Gina to Shannon [Beador], Shannon to me, Tamra to whoever.”

    Heather said stories were also passed around after “Shannon’s DUI,” and the “alleged FBI stuff” over Ryan Boyajian.

    “Trust me, they all pass our stories around to each other,” said Heather. “But I really was upset because it made it sound like I was researching [Katie], and I have never done that. I do not like that. I do not subscribe to that. It was just stuff that was out in articles that were posted.”

    Heather said she “lit [Gina] up” on the phone after the interview, but Heather “apologized” for it later.

    As for the drama with Katie, Heather was asked when Gretchen seemingly started to believe Tamra. “Well, you gotta watch the next few episodes,” she said.

    The host then asked what Heather thinks of Katie’s falling out with Gretchen and Jennifer.

    “I think, you know, you stand up for your friends and you believe in them — until you’re faced with irrefutable proof,” she answered.

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  • ‘RHOC’ Jennifer Pedranti’s Ex-Husband William Drags Ryan Boyajian Into Court Battle as Jennifer Blames Ex for Eviction & Claims He Failed to Pay Court-Ordered Lump Sum

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    Jennifer Pedranti’s fiancé, Ryan Boyajian, has been dragged into her spousal support battle with ex-husband William Pedranti.

    As William, 52, attempts to have his spousal support payments to the 47-year-old Real Housewives of Orange County star terminated and his child support lowered, Ryan, 46, has been caught in the crossfire as William has signaled to their live-in relationship, prompting an emotional declaration from Jennifer.

    “I believe it is unfair to terminate spousal support because I am cohabitating with Ryan. The ONLY reason I am cohabitating with Ryan is because William left me with no other option,” Jennifer wrote to the court, according to an October 24 report from In Touch Weekly.

    Jennifer then noted that despite a court order, William, who she was married to from 2002 to 2022, never paid her the $267,000 he owed for the sale of their former marital home.

    “Had I received my half portion of the proceeds when William received it (which he should have done), I would have had the ability to pay my lease, and I would not have been evicted. Or, I would have had the means to secure my own place without Ryan. It would not be equitable for the court to consider my cohabitation with Ryan as a basis to end my support when William’s bad conduct forced me to do so,” she explained. “Furthermore, William was also aware at the time we entered the judgment that I was cohabitating with Ryan. Therefore, it is not a change of circumstance warranting consideration to terminate spousal support.”

    She then pulled William’s income declarations into question.

    “It should be noted William can apparently pay $2,300 per month for his car, but not pay court ordered support,” she said, signaling to the $4,674 a month child support and $1,735 a month spousal support payments.

    As RHOC fans may have seen, William recently requested his spousal support be terminated and his child support be lowered, noting that his and Jennifer’s son, Dawson, now lives with him, and accusing Jennifer of harassment, which she denies.

    “William’s claim that I make mean or disparaging comments about him is false. William will not communicate with me at all about our children, and simply ignores me,” she said. “The court will note none of my messages are harassing, mean, or disparaging. Please also note William has not responded to one of my several messages.”

    In his own court documents, William told the court, “Jennifer still lives with Ryan, and I believe has little to no living expenses (rent, utilities, car payment etc.) due to this living arrangement.”

    According to William, it was Jennifer’s inability to pay rent that led to her past eviction from a home in Ladera Ranch, California.

    “I am not a party to the lease agreement. Jennifer signed the lease agreement without first notifying me. If she had notified me beforehand, I would have not agreed to the terms of the lease (particularly the amount). We agreed to an uneven split of the amount of the rent since the children would be living there,” he shared. “Jennifer was not able to contribute anything toward the rent, and therefore, the rent was not able to be paid in full.”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 18 airs Thursdays at 9/8c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Jennifer Pedranti is Back in Court With Ex William Weeks After the Exes Reached Divorce Settlement as Details & Hearing Date Are Revealed

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    Jennifer Pedranti reportedly returned to divorce court shortly after a divorce agreement was reached with her ex William Pedranti. The former couple, who got married in 2002 and broke up in 2021, have disputed the financial situation amid the divorce.

    In July, the exes reportedly reached a settlement – three years after their split. She apparently was awarded a total of $6,000 a month from William in child and spousal support. The Real Housewives of Orange County star is now in a relationship with Ryan Boyajian, who hinted that he’s suing her co-star Tamra Judge (who accused him of stealing from a Dodgers baseball player).

    In Touch obtained court documents claiming that Jennifer returned to divorce court weeks after working out the agreement with William.

    Per the documents, Jennifer demanded that her ex appear in court for a financial examination, claiming she needed this info to assist in the “enforcement of a money judgment” against him.

    Judge Julie Palafox granted Jennifer’s request, and the court scheduled the examination for 8:30 a.m. on October 21 – while ordering William to show up in court with paperwork to aid Jennifer in collecting the money owed to her.

    The notice addressed William directly: “If you fail to appear at the time and place specified in this order, you may be subject to arrest and punishment for contempt of court, and the court may make an order requiring you to pay the reasonable attorney fees incurred by the judgment creditor in this proceeding.”

    Before the July settlement, Jennifer’s attorney asserted, “[Jennifer] requires assistance to cover essential living expenses for herself and her children, such as rent, food and educational costs. While [William] currently covers healthcare expenses, additional support is needed to meet the financial requirements for the children’s activities, as well as their food and clothing expenses.”

    Allegedly, after Jennifer’s new boyfriend Ryan sent Tamra a cease and desist, Tamra apologized twice for making the accusations against him on Watch What Happens Live. Vicki Gunvalson, however, said Ryan isn’t suing Tamra yet. Alum Kelly Dodd recently suggested that multiple castmates should form a class-action lawsuit against Tamra for her alleged slander.

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