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  • Hudson Williams on the ‘Heated Rivalry’ Finale, That Improvised Sex Scene and Shane’s Talk With His Mom: ‘That Ruined Me the Most’

    SPOILER ALERT: This article contains details about Episode 6 of “Heated Rivalry,” now streaming on HBO Max.

    “Heated Rivalry” has everything a primetime drama could ask for – very hot men, romance and, of course, sex. But what really sold star Hudson Williams on the series was the quiet yet heavy scene in the Season 1 finale that shows Shane’s mother (Christina Chang) asking her son for forgiveness for not allowing him to feel safe enough to come out to her sooner as gay.

    “That scene was the scene that ruined me the most when I read the script,” Williams tells me. “It was the scene that I was like, ‘If I don’t get to play Shane Hollander.’ It’s also a scene that’s not in the book, but to me it is the quintessential wrap-up scene to that arc for him and his mom. Period.”

    For those who may not already know, “Heated Rivalry” is Jacob Tierney’s six-episode adaptation of Rachel Reid’s queer hockey romance novel series “Game Changers.” The show, acquired for U.S. distribution by HBO Max from Canadian streamer Crave, follows Shane Hollander and Ilya Rosanov (Connor Storrie), two superstar hockey players who fall in love as they navigate a secret years-long affair. The show has been greenlit for a second season.

    The mother-and-son scene filmed over two days. “The first time we couldn’t get through it because it started raining,” Hudson recalls. “And then we came back the next day to shoot it, Jacob goes, ‘I rewrote it.’ So Christina and I are in the little makeup room of this little cottage, memorizing the scene, and it was so beautiful. It made so much sense. It stands on the right side of what I think a parent should be because there are outdated notions. There are old school ways of parenting that maybe we can leave in the past…As someone who thinks of raising their kids in the future and wanting to be a father, this is the environment you have to foster.”

    We truly don’t know until we see her accept him if she is going to accept him or reject him. Will she be like, “You’ve just ruined your career?” But in the end, she’s talking about how this could be good for endorsement deals.

    Shane gets a release to a degree, but I’m not sure it’s a full one. I think there’s still a degree to Shane where it’s like, a part of me wanted a bigger release. I remember leaving and going, “I wish I could pour myself into it and completely get vulnerable.” As an actor, that’s never really been that hard for me. I was retroactively trying to figure out why am I not fully able to get this. But then, I was like, “Oh, it’s Shane who isn’t able to get that fully.” It’s a little bit of a release he gets but even still, he’s avoiding her a little bit. He can’t look her in the eyes and feel completely like he’s lived to all the standards of what he thinks this unwritten idea of what a man is between them.

    I love that Ilya was the first to say, “I love you.” He said it in the Russian monologue, but that doesn’t count for Shane because he didn’t know what Ilya was saying.

    The motherfucker beat me.

    Were you surprised he said it first?

    Yeah, but even though Shane doesn’t say it first, he says all these things that are, if they’re not love, what the fuck are they? You know, “Let’s start a foundation.” He’s staying up in the middle of the night plotting their way. When Ilya says, “You think that far ahead, Hollander?” “I do about this.” Hollander is not a planner. He’s a diligent worker. He’s someone who is routine — dial in, show up in the game today, show up in practice right now. Forget in five years. Be the best hockey player now. It’s out of character to let this game plan run so far ahead. But it is because he loves Ilya so dearly. So I think he, even though he didn’t say it first, he made that cottage a home for Ilya to be able to say it.

    I thought the cottage was going to be, excuse my French, a fuck fest. But this was more about the emotional journey and being a couple.

    Jacob Tierney recently said it — it’s boyfriend.

    But then there’s the blowjob scene. That was comedy.

    That was improv.

    What?

    Yeah, to a degree. Connor and I were kind of goofing off in the makeup trailer, which was a cottage that was a two-minute drive away from that cottage, getting ready. I was preparing my monologue the whole morning. I’m prepping it, working it. Then Connor, being the great scene partner he is, he was like, “I’ll be here doing this.” Then he did something and we were hitting each other, goofing off. Then he’s hitting me, hitting me and he did this slap. I was filming myself on my phone doing this. I was like, “Do that again.” I couldn’t hold in my laughter because it was so brilliant. It’s so funny, and it makes sense for where they’re at in the story. I remember showing that to the intimacy coordinator. She was cackling. She’s like, “You have to do that.” Then Jacob was like, “Go for it. Go crazy.” The first take was the first time I broke broke because Connor is taking all the liberties. I am shoving him. I’m slapping him back. I’m putting the phone away to get in the gasps and moans. I’m so happy with how that scene turned out.

    Shane and Ilya are finally comfortable with each other enough for that. They’ve let their guards down.

    I heard Jacob say earlier today, “That’s boyfriends.” You don’t get the blow job on the phone from your fuck buddy or your friends with benefits. You get that when you’re in a relationship. In Episodes 1 and 2, it’s lust — it’s charged and fast. But now we have humor and levity within the sex.

    What was it like filming in the cottage for the first time?

    It’s when sentiment of the show really matched the sentiment of where we are in filming. That was the last two days of shooting. The last scene we shot was Ilya talking about his mom when he’s on my lap. I remember the first time we walked through there, I was like, “Damn right, Mr. Real Estate! This is a pretty nice cottage.” That was finally where Shane can be as boring as he wants and as fun as he wants. He gets to be everything. They have those two weeks.

    And then you literally ride off into the sunset.

    It’s still bittersweet. A lot of people have said that’s a very happy ending, but I’m like, “This isn’t a straight story.” This is not the happy ending because they’re still in the closet. They’re not coming out to Reebok, they’re not coming out to anyone. They got caught. It looks more like forgiveness than pride. That’s where they’re at. Forgiveness implies there’s something that was wrongfully done.

    There’s shame around being caught. Just the word “caught” implies something to be ashamed about.

    And they were just kissing. They’re not fucking butt naked on the countertop.

    Do you have any plans to leave the internet?

    I have been periodically leaving the internet. I touch into the internet. I try to stay gone, but very luckily, it’s been pretty warm. The hateful comments are easy to disregard to a degree because they’re coming from such vile places of bias or they’re just obnoxious. It’s closer to trolling than it is criticism.

    Also, “Heated Rivalry” is not reality. It’s like a good rom-com where we get to fantasize about love and romance.

    It’s optimistic.

    It’s OK to be optimistic. So many people just want to be negative.

    Even queer storytellers sometimes want to double down on pessimism. I think the reason why our show is doing so well is it doesn’t want to reinforce the worst fears.

    Do you like tuna melts?

    I do, but I don’t eat carbs or cheese. But as a treat, I’ll take a tuna melt with a nice brioche.

    This Q&A has been edited and condensed.

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  • ‘Heated Rivalry’ Left Us With a Perfect Season 1 Finale

    The gay hockey show that has taken over the world has come to an end. For season 1 at least. Heated Rivalry gave us a thrilling season finale that left us wondering what will happen for Shane and Ilya in the future.

    Shane Hollander (Hudson Williams) invited Ilya (Connor Storrie) to his cottage in the penultimate episode. Ilya did what he does best and made a thing about it, saying it couldn’t happen. But when Scott Hunter (François Arnaud) kissed his boyfriend after the Stanely Cup, it inspired Ilya to make a move: Go to the cottage with Shane.

    And that’s where we are at the finale for Heated Rivalry. So what happens in the finale to set up season 2? Spoilers ahead for the hockey show. Well… there isn’t much hockey in this episode. Just lots of smooching.

    Shane meets Ilya at the airport to bring him to his cottage and the two are set to have 2 weeks together. It is exactly as fans predicted: Lots of sex. But also lots of conversations about the future, including a plan for Ilya to move to Canada and get rid of his Russian Passport that doesn’t include marrying his friend. The problem? Shane’s parents see them together.

    Support was always there, if Shane wanted it

    two people standing
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    Yuna Hollander (Christina Chang) has been hard on her son all season. She’s been determined to see him succeed but she didn’t seem uncaring. The same went for David Hollander (Dylan Walsh). So when David goes to the cottage to get his phone charger and sees Ilya and Shane together, there was a moment of panic for Shane. Would his parents accept him? How would they feel about their son being gay? But the only thing they were worried about? Shane and Ilya’s supposed rivalry on the ice.

    The final moments of the season featured both Ilya and Shane hopeful for their future together. They have a plan, they have a mission, and now Shane knows his parents are on his side. One of the most beautiful moments of the episode, however, comes from his mother hearing their “ideas” for how to keep their relationship a secret.

    When she hears that the two are planning to keep it a secret until they retire, she says that it is sad that they’d have to do that. Especially with their plan to explain why they’d be seen together out and about. We don’t know whether or not that’s going to actually be how it plays out (or of Scott Hunter inspires them more).

    But for now, the future actually seems hopeful for the two. They’re happy together, people know about them, and Ilya even called himself Shane’s boyfriend. Will their happiness remain? Or is this just the honeymoon period until someone calls their bluff on the ice? We’ll have to wait until season 2 to find out where Shane and Ilya go next but at least we’ll always have the cottage together.

    (featured image: HBO Max)

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  • ‘Heated Rivalry’ Stars Respond To Jordan Firstman’s Criticism Of Show’s Sex Scenes

    Although Heated Rivalry has quickly become an international hit with a Season 2 renewal, not everyone is a fan of the steamy gay hockey romance.

    Following Jordan Firstman‘s criticism of the Crave/HBO Max show’s sex scenes, stars Hudson Williams and François Arnaud responded to the I Love LA actor’s comment that their depiction of gay intimacy is “not how gay people f*ck.”

    “Is there only one way to have ‘authentic’ gay sex on tv?” asked Arnaud in an Instagram comment. “Should the sex that closeted hockey players have look like the sex that sceney LA gay guys have?”

    Williams took the high road on his Instagram Story. “But truly go watch I Love LA! Jordan and the cast are great!!” he wrote.

    The stars’ posts come after Firstman compared them to the sex scenes on his own HBO Max show, which he said a “straight guy could not write,” despite the fact that Heated Rivalry creator, writer and director Jacob Tierney being openly gay.

    “Yeah, we’re going for it. It’s gay,” he told Vulture. “I’m sorry, I watched those first two episodes of Heated Rivalry, and it’s just not gay. It’s not how gay people f*ck. There’s so few things that actually show gay sex.”

    Firstman later added that “a lot of people just want entertainment or to see two straight hockey players pretending to be gay and f*cking.”

    After Heated Rivalry‘s two-episode premiere last month, LGBTQ fans have passionately taken to the show’s depiction of gay intimacy in the adaptation of Rachel Reid’s Game Changers novel series.

    Connor Storrie as Ilya Rozanov and Hudson Williams as Shane Hollander in ‘Heated Rivalry’ (Sabrina Lantos)

    Williams previously told Deadline, “The sex scenes, we rehearse them so heavily and we knew what we were gonna do going in, that they’re also a lot of fun.”

    “Yeah, it’s a dance, added his romantic lead Connor Storrie.

    Arnaud explained to Deadline, “They chose people who believed in the usefulness of these scenes to tell that story. … I liked that our scenes with Kip [played by Robbie GK] were showing another side of sexuality, which is tentative and repressed and like role-play almost, and it’s just two people who are actually just giving in, and the joy of that.”

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  • ‘Heated Rivalry’ Stars On Why Sex Scenes Are Easier To Film Than Hockey, Fan Speculation On Sexuality: “Just The Nature Of Celebrity”

    SPOILERS: This post contains details about the Heated Rivalry episode ‘Rose’

    Never has hockey been more important to LGBTQ audiences than in the wake of Heated Rivalry‘s meteoric success, presenting many physical demands for the show’s stars—on and off the ice.

    Connor Storrie and Hudson Williams, who star in the Crave/HBO Max show as closeted hockey pros Ilya Rozanov and Shane Hollander, recently explained to Deadline why they would “rather [film] the sex scenes” than hockey sequences.

    “Because the hockey scenes—my feet hurt and then I cramp and I’m not that good, so I have to be very diligent with making sure I don’t look like a phony,” explained Williams. “But with the sex scenes, we rehearse them so heavily and we knew what we were gonna do going in, that they’re also a lot of fun.” 

    Storrie echoed his co-star’s sentiment, noting, “The hockey stuff is not easy. I mean, it’s hard to believe yourself as an NHL player at the top of your craft. … It’s very physically demanding. It’s also, being on the ice for so long is almost nauseating. I don’t know, just the lights, it’s cold. It’s so not easy.”

    Fortunately for the show’s devoted fans, this week’s episode ‘Rose’ features multiple intimate moments between Ilya and Shane. Meanwhile, the stars are aware of the fan speculation that’s grown around their own sexual orientations, which Williams notes is “just the nature of celebrity.”

    ‘Heated Rivalry’s Connor Storrie and Hudson Williams

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    Williams said, “I think there’s never a question for me, when I would dream of becoming in the public eye, that I would want just a level of privacy. But of course, I agree. I want queer people telling queer stories, but also, there’s the element of Connor and I—we’re best friends, and we love expressing that physically.”

    For Storrie, with “so much energy coming at us,” he explained, “It’s important for me to have a little bit of separation from the character in the show.”

    Based on Rachel Reid’s Game Changers novels, the Jacob Tierney-created series follows the affair between Ilya and Shane as they begin to fall in love over several years, sneaking away to see each other when their teams are playing.

    Connor Storrie as Ilya Rozanov and Hudson Williams as Shane Hollander in 'Heated Rivalry'

    Connor Storrie as Ilya Rozanov and Hudson Williams as Shane Hollander in ‘Heated Rivalry’

    Sabrina Lantos

    The episode ‘Rose’, now available to stream, sees Ilya and Shane trading in their usual discreet hotel rendezvous for Ilya’s mansion. Despite the casual nature of their dynamic, the pair sticks around after their latest hookup for some cuddling and tuna melts. But when things start getting a little too real for Shane, he bolts, only to spark romance with famous actress Rose Landry (Sophie Nélisse).

    Read on about the latest episode of Heated Rivalry.

    DEADLINE: I know everybody on social media is loving Heated Rivalry, and I also saw that you guys went to Hi Tops last night. What was it like seeing the fan reaction in person? 

    CONNOR STORRIE: It’s so overwhelming. We did some fan events before the show came out, and that felt a little easier because it wasn’t so much about us. It was more about the story, but that was so weird to be around people, because it became not just about, “I love this story, I love these characters,” but like, “I love you on the show,” and it’s like, oh, I can’t accept that. 

    HUDSON WILLIAMS: Yeah, I almost just wish they didn’t give us mics and they just sent us into the crowd, because I can do person-to-person, but when they’re like, “say something,” and it’s like “What do you want me to say in front of everyone? Everyone’s looking at you and filming you, but it’s still grea. After the mics went down, we just got to meet these people, taking selfies, and they’re just saying how much it means to them. That is really special. 

    Connor Storrie as Ilya Rozanov in 'Heated Rivalry'

    Connor Storrie as Ilya Rozanov in ‘Heated Rivalry’

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    DEADLINE: And obviously, the sex scenes have been incredibly popular. But I have to wonder what is more physically demanding, the intimate scenes or the hockey scenes? which would you rather spend the day filming? 

    WILLIAMS: I’d rather do the sex scenes because the hockey scenes—my feet hurt and then I cramp and I’m not that good, so I have to be very diligent with making sure I don’t look like a phony. But with the sex scenes, we rehearse them so heavily and we knew what we were gonna do going in, that they’re also a lot of fun.  

    STORRIE: Yeah, it’s a dance. I totally agree with that. The hockey stuff is not easy. I mean, it’s hard to believe yourself as an NHL player at the top of your craft. I mean, those people, they work their entire lives for that. So, getting in those skates, being next to these guys who have been doing this for like 20 years, you’re like, “I’m OK.” It’s very physically demanding. It’s also, being on the ice for so long is almost nauseating. I don’t know, just the lights, it’s cold. It’s so not easy. 

    DEADLINE: I loved this episode because we’ve seen Shane just really putting his heart on his sleeve, but now we’re starting to see Ilya kind of give in a little bit. But then on top of that, we’re seeing Shane pull away. Tell me about tug of war and how you guys brought that to the screen. 

    STORRIE: For me, it’s always just moment to moment. I don’t really think of things in like arcs or plot or, “Oh this is so different from what we’ve done before.” I think we just kind of know these characters really well, and then it’s easy to kind of take that bass and plug and play it. I always look at Ilya as his own thing, and then I think if I’m really solid on that, then it naturally will provide whatever needs to be happening in the plot of the story. And then we have someone like Jacob who knows the story like the back of his hand and is willing to be like, “No, I think at this point, we need a little more of this, we need a little less that.” So, it’s just really knowing the person, and then you can plug that into any element of the story.

    Hudson Williams as Shane Hollander in 'Heated Rivalry'

    Hudson Williams as Shane Hollander in ‘Heated Rivalry’

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    WILLIAMS: Yes. To that point, knowing Shane, it felt like, of course he’s running. This is almost like when you go to pick up something you think is heavy and then it goes light, it’s almost like that moment where it’s like, “Oh my God.” He is like it, it looks like boyfriends. It looks like a partner, and it hasn’t up to this point. And that’s sort of terrifying. And [calling him by] the first name, it’s a lot of things that are just sort of scaring him in that moment, that it’s hard just to take that.

    STORRIE: Right. There’s so many new things that you can’t help but feel altered or different. 

    DEADLINE: I also love the addition of Rose in this episode. What was it like bringing her into the fold? Because it’s kind of giving Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift.

    WILLIAMS: Right. I’m not too familiar with them, so I can’t speak to that. But working with Sophie, it was fantastic, and the Rose character is also very interesting because, obviously Shane is in love with Ilya, but Rose, her character in a way adds pressure to who he’s meant to be or what he thinks he should look like. But then again, she’s a confidant and she’s someone who’s open and accepting and makes him feel really safe. And up to that point, it was really only Ilya who could provide that, and his emotions weren’t always handled with care, so it’s a super interesting connection. 

    STORRIE: Yes, another true connection.=-=[]aq

    DEADLINE: And just being able to step out in public and have paparazzi take pictures of them—

    WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think that’s the sort of tragic element for Shane is, because he’s able to do this with someone who he doesn’t feel truthful that this person he’s in love with in that same way, but it’s being celebrated in a way that he feels they never would be. 

    DEADLINE: GLAAD recently released a report that nearly half of LGBTQ characters are disappearing from television this year. What does it feel like to be part of a show that’s just so unapologetically queer and a lot of people are seeing themselves represented? 

    STORRIE: Yeah, it feels great. I think that this community that it really speaks to, is so culturally impactful, now more than ever, and I think that this is really showing people just how much this does resonate with the world, in and outside of that community. I just want people to know that we’re so enthusiastic about these people and we relate to them so much, and we love this form of love.

    WILLIAMS: And we love this story.

    DEADLINE: And I feel like anytime there’s a big queer project like this, it seems inevitable that people are going to be speculating about your sexuality.

    WILLIAMS: Of course, it’s just the nature of celebrity as well too.

    DEADLINE: Or just accusing you of gay baiting. How does it feel having to separate your personal from the professional? 

    WILLIAMS: I think there’s never a question for me, when I would dream of becoming in the public eye, that I would want just a level of privacy. But of course, I agree. I want queer people telling queer stories, but also, there’s the element of Connor and I—we’re best friends, and we love expressing that physically. You see people who infer or assume, and you kind of have to let that go. But then again, I never wanna stop expressing the love I have for Connor physically, and I’m never really going to, and I think multiple things can be true at once. We want queer people telling queer stories. There’s an element of, also you can’t ask that in an audition room. But I think what Jacob said really sums it up the best, which is, you have to gauge how enthusiastic they are about the story. And they could have paid me $10 and just fed me, and I’m doing the story. I really thought I was gonna get nothing for this, and I just loved the story so much, and I want to be a part of that. And Connor as well, I’m sure feels the same. So, I think that’s the only thing you can gauge.

    STORRIE: Totally. I think there’s so much energy that is coming at us with the rise of this show, and for me, at least, I think it’s important for me to have a little bit of separation from the character in the show. All I can really say is that I love Ilya, I love the community that this is a part of and that this caters to. I think that’s so much more interesting and valuable than doing just another run-of-the-mill, straight story. Who I date, who I sleep with, who this, that, whatever, I’m gonna keep that to myself. But regardless, I think this is super important, and I think also on top of that, it’s just really cool.

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