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  • RHOC’s Tamra Judge Shares DM With Crystal Over Claim Vicki Stole a Costar’s Orange, Plus Addresses Rumors of Heather’s Exit, Shannon Fallout, and Season 20 “New Blood”

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    Tamra Judge reacted to Crystal Kung-Minkoff claiming Vicki Gunvalson stole an orange from another Real Housewives of Orange County star on Vicki’s podcast on Tuesday.

    While also shading Gretchen Rossi‘s “friend” role on the show, reacting to the suggestion that Heather Dubrow, 56, will not return for season 20, and reflecting on her falling out with Shannon Beador, 61, Tamra explained Shannon’s role in her former feud with Vicki, 63, and spoke of “new blood.”

    “You bet your sweet a** I sent [Crystal] a DM right away,” Tamra, 58, revealed on the December 23 episode of My Friend, My Soulmate, My Podcast. “I reached out, and I said, ‘Was it my orange?’ and she said, ‘No, it was not.’ She would not tell me who it was, but she says, ‘I just heard it’s somebody else’s.’”

    “Gretchen doesn’t have an orange, not even a clementine. Heather? Do you think Heather’s going to Beverly Hills?” she continued.

    “That would only make sense,” Vicki replied.

    Reflecting on the end of her friendship with Shannon, Tamra said she felt sorry for her co-star after her DUI arrest.

    “I was there for her and we walked the red carpet at BravoCon and she thanked us and did all the stuff and then I found out that she was saying some pretty horrible things about me. Like, wait a minute. I’m doing all this for you. That’s not cool,” Tamra revealed. “I just got to a point where I’m like, I don’t want to be around someone that’s doing that to me. So then we had to go and film a season together.”

    Although Tamra admitted that “it wasn’t nice” to call Shannon a drunk, she claimed she was coming from a place of frustration.

    “You know how hard it is to talk to somebody who will not own anything that they’ve done — no part of it?” she asked. “It’s like, the only reason I’m upset with you and not talking to you is because you were doing horrible things behind my back when I was trying to be nothing but a good friend for 10 years.”

    At the time, Tamra noted that she and Vicki were talking “a lot.” But Vicki noted, “I just got mad at you for being so mean … at times you’ve been mean to everybody.”

    In her defense, Tamra explained, “I think if you’ve been on the show for a certain, long period of time, you’re gonna be mean to people once in a while. You’re gonna get in fights with people.

    Also on the podcast, Tamra reacted to people warning Vicki that she would turn on her.

    “I do not turn on [Vicki]. It was Shannon. Let’s be honest. Shannon was doing what she normally does. She divides and conquers and does all the things and tries to separate people,” she clarified. 

    Then, after noting that she and Vicki “never got into a fight,” Tamra explained why the Tres Amigas Tour was called off after Shannon’s DUI.

    “I was more concerned about her, like, this isn’t a good thing. To maybe just take a beat and kind of absorb what just happened to you, so I was just thinking of business mind, like is that really what you want to do?” she reasoned. “It was fun while it lasted.”

    Looking ahead to season 20, Tamra said, “We need new blood.”

    “Bravo announced there was going to be a shakeup,” she added.

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 20 is expected to begin filming sometime early next year.

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  • Tamra Judge Shares New Details on RHOC Finale Call Drama, Talks Having PTSD, Gretchen’s “Gross” Posts Being “Brushed Over,” & Cast Gang-Up, Plus If She’s Spoken to Andy Since Reunion and What Wasn’t Shown

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    Tamra Judge admitted to getting a heads-up about the Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 finale call, during which she was accused of leaking stories to blogs, on Vicki Gunvalson‘s podcast on Tuesday.

    As she also addressed the way Gretchen Rossi‘s controversial “liked” posts were brushed over amid a cast gang-up against her, cited the support of Katie Ginella, 41, and confirmed whether she’d spoken to Andy Cohen, 57, since the reunion, Tamra, 58, admitted to having post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) from the show and explained how she handles her haters.

    “You think I know? Why would I be behind it? That’s nasty. That’s dirty. Nobody will give me an answer on it. I don’t know who it is and there’s nothing I can do about it,” Tamra said of who made the finale phone call on the December 23 episode of My Friend, My Soulmate, My Podcast.

    According to Tamra, executive producer Alex Baskin called her before the episode aired and said, “Hey, listen, I don’t want to ambush you, but something’s going to come up.”

    “So the entire time I’m there, I’m like, ‘What’s coming?’ It’s like the worst feeling in the entire world, and then it came … the way it all went down was very disgusting to me. It was very much brushed over, these posts that had been liked by Gretchen, this hatred, and all this stuff,” Tamra noted. 

    Because there was more focus on Tamra defending herself against supposedly leaked stories than Gretchen’s posts, she felt even more ganged up on by her castmates.

    “We’re just going to ignore this? We’re gonna act like this didn’t happen?” she wondered. “And then you’re gonna go after me for 30 or 40 minutes on this stuff? … It was painful. Katie was the only one that came to my dressing room afterwards and sat there … and talked to me, and I was crying … [The others] all went to dinner with Gretchen.”

    “But at the end of the day, I know what contract I signed. They can do whatever they want to me,” she added.

    While it has been suggested that Gretchen’s “liked” posts were modified in some way, Tamra insisted they were real.

    “For years [they’d been floating around]. It was all over Reddit. It was all over Twitter. It was all over Instagram. It was all over the place, and some of them were pretty freaking gross. Really gross,” she fumed.

    After Vicki, 63, pointed out that Gretchen had defended herself, saying she scrolls and “likes” everything, Tamra asked, “What is your algorithm? That’s what you have to ask. I don’t have things like that in my algorithm.”

    Looking back on RHOC season 19, Tamra said she was a victim of a gang-up from Shannon Beador, 61, Emily Simpson, 49, Jennifer Pedranti, 48, and, at one time, Gina Kirschenheiter, 41.

    “It was like, ‘What did I do to you, Emily? What did I do to you, Gina? What are you guys doing?’” she recalled. “There was such a huge division in the cast this last year and I think that is not good, when there’s people trying to [sabotage] or ice somebody out … It’s like, ‘Just do your job and don’t worry about anybody else.’”

    As for whether she’d seen Andy since the reunion, Tamra confirmed she saw him at BravoCon.

    “[And] he did call me the day after the reunion to check on me. He’s always been very nice to me,” she added.

    Still, Tamra revealed she experienced PTSD.

    “There was a huge hate train last year, and it was devastating to me. But I feel like I wasn’t shown in the best light,” she explained. “I was getting death threats and hate. I had PTSD coming back to the show, and coming back to the show, I was still very scared and nervous about saying anything because I’m like, ‘I said so many great things and nice things,’ but it wasn’t shown.”

    Also on the podcast, Tamra said that when it comes to her haters, she doesn’t let them affect her.

    “I’ve had talks with production and people at Bravo and they’re not very influenced by what people are saying on social media because the hardcore fans that are out there that are loud, very loud, they will hate you one minute and then love you the next. They will want you fired and then when you’re fired, they want you back,” she reasoned.

    “I don’t read the comments … it’s a time waste, and then it’s also not good for your mental health … I don’t want to,” she added.

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 20 is expected to begin filming sometime early next year.

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  • RHOC’s Slade Smiley Accuses Tamra Judge of “Lying About Autism” and Mentions Her Son, Plus He Says Gretchen Supported LGBTQ+ Community Before Heather

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    Slade Smiley claims Andy Cohen has chosen to support Gretchen Rossi due to “overwhelming evidence” against Tamra Judge.

    In a comment to a post about the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion, which accused Gretchen, 47, of being a supporter of President Trump, 79, declared that she was “not a victim,” and pointed out that there was no proof of Tamra, 58, leaking stories to bloggers, Slade, 52, went on a rant against Tamra and signaled her past behavior.

    “The reason Andy supported Gretchen is that there is overwhelming evidence against Tamra and her little network of accounts, seems like you may be included in that network. Tamra has been caught in possession of screenshots of fake posts that have been altered by putting Gretchen’s name on it,” Slade began, as seen in a screenshot shared by Real Housewives Zone on Instagram.

    According to Slade, Gretchen has stood up for the LGBTQ+ community “her entire life,” and not just once it became normal — or because she had children come out.

    “She supported this community long before anyone on this cast did including [Heather Dubrow],” he wrote.

    He then took aim at Tamra’s past use of a potential gay slur and “liking” of her son Ryan Vieth‘s “anti trans rant,” saying she only “back peddled when she got caught.”

    While the RHOC finale and reunion left more questions than answers for some, Slade teased a report that has been viewed by not only Andy, 57, but also Bravo.

    “The report is clear and the truth will come out. The report was done by a very well known company that does government research. Andy and the network have seen it all,” he declared. “None of this would have ever been an issue this season but it was orchestrated by Tamra, the embellished lie about Gretchen being drugged by Tamra orchestrated by Tamra. She is the one who brought it all up.”

    Also in his rant, Slade said Tamra was “the obvious cancer infecting the authenticity of the show.”

    “For gods sake she got caught lying about autism. She swore on the life of her children she didn’t do it. How gross is [that] the podcasts are all coming [forward] with proof she did,” he added.

    In separate posts shared via screenshots by the Real OG of the NYC on X, Slade featured an article Reality Blurb shared in a January 2019 post, titled, “RHOC Star Tamra Judge’s Son Ryan Vieth Goes On Transphobic Rant Amid Transgender Controversy and She ‘Likes’ His Post, Does She Support His Views?”

    In the since-deleted post, Ryan had said, “LET’S BE F**KING REAL, THE WORLD IS F**KED. COMPLETELY F**KED,“ with a screenshot of a news article, which was titled, “Britain’s first transgender family reveals son, 5, is also transitioning.”

    Ryan also included a comment from someone who said, “The only thing that kid should be transitioning into is being a 6-year-old. Anything else is abusive brainwashing.”

    In another post, Slade included a link to a video Zack Peter shared on X in which he claimed that Tamra had “absolutely been leaking things for months.”

    “I’ve known the info she’s been leaking about the show since July, when she was trying to prevent people from interviewing Gretchen. On a personal note, I like [Tamra], I like [Teddi Mellencamp], I like [Scheana Shay], I like Gretchen. But I’m always going to call out BS when I see it,” Zack stated.

    No word yet on when production will begin on The Real Housewives of Orange County season 20.

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  • Tamra Judge Addresses if She’s Suing Gretchen Rossi, Talks RHOC Reunion “Attack” and Says She “Couldn’t Move” for Days: “I Didn’t Even Really Do Anything This Season to Even Be Taken Down”

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    Tamra Judge suggested that she was moving forward with a lawsuit against Gretchen Rossi while appearing on Jeff Lewis‘ podcast on Friday.

    As the 58-year-old Real Housewives of Orange County star denied leaking information to bloggers, addressed her castmates’ reunion attack, and admitted that she doesn’t trust any of her co-stars, Tamra confessed to being “confused” by the mysterious finale phone call, named the one person who was there for her amid Teddi Mellencamp‘s brain cancer diagnosis, and answered a question about whether or not she was planning to sue Gretchen, 47.

    “Stay tuned,” Tamra teased on SiriusXM’s Jeff Lewis Live on November 21 when pressed about the potential legal action.

    After being accused of leaks, Tamra said she’d never do such a thing.

    “That’s a no. No. What would I get out of it?” she wondered. “Someone on the cast I won’t name said, ‘You do it so bloggers are nice to you.’ And I said, ‘What f*cking blogger’s nice to me?’ I have like three, and they have like 200 followers.”

    “It’s ridiculous,” she added of the claims.

    Looking back at the reunion, Tamra admitted, “It felt like an attack,” as she revealed she was immobile for days.

    “The first two days after the reunion, I couldn’t even move … I just sat there … I couldn’t function. I just couldn’t believe what was going on or what had happened. So it was tough,” she shared. “Even two weeks after, it was still in my head. I’m like, ‘Why? But why? Why did this happen?’”

    “It was hard, especially from certain people on the cast that I have been very kind to and didn’t know where this was coming from … it’s going after my character and [saying] that I can’t be trusted,” she continued. 

    According to Tamra, it’s her castmates whom she can’t trust, not the other way around.

    “I don’t trust any of these girls I’m on the show with — not one of them,” she declared. “It’s the housewife way. You know if something comes up, they’re gonna throw it out there. That’s what they’re paid to do. So it’s very hard to trust somebody.”

    Regarding the finale phone call, which came from an unidentified source who suggested she was behind the season 19 leaks, Tamra said it was “very, very, very confusing.”

    “The whole thing is confusing to me … There’s a lot of things I just don’t understand,” she explained.

    As for whether it was the women staging a take-down, Tamra wondered what their reason would’ve been.

    “I didn’t even really do anything this season to even be taken down. I feel like I was in a place of sadness because filming and what was going on with Teddi, I was just really, really sad and devastated, and I just kind of felt like nobody was there for me,” she recalled. “Every time I went into a scene, everyone was going to poke at me because it’s like, ‘Oh, poke at Tamra, she’s gonna explode. She’s gonna give us good TV.’ And I wasn’t in the spot. I was in a spot where I just wanted people to hug me and say, ‘It’s gonna be okay.’”

    Though most of her castmates weren’t supportive of her when she needed it the most, Tamra did acknowledge Heather Dubrow, 56, saying, “Heather was there for me. She would call me.”

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  • RHOC’s Gretchen Rossi’s Alleged Liked Posts Revealed After Her Co-Stars Accused Her of Being Homophobic—See the Supposed Screenshots

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    Things are heated on The Real Housewives of Orange County. After Gretchen Rossi notoriously returned to the Bravo show, she was confronted about her controversial behavior online.

    Gretchen Rossi was accused of liking posts that were homophobic, transphobic, anti-abortion, anti-vaccine, pro-election denial, and pro-Trump. During The RHOC Season 19 reunion, she apologized for her actions, saying, “there’s no excuse for liking anything that has any sort of offensive sentiment,” and denouncing “anything that seems homophobic or transphobic or anything like that.” She blamed that she was “mindlessly” scrolling at night.

    “I gravely apologize if I liked something that was offensive or something like that,” Gretchen told her castmates. “Maybe that’s my mistake.”

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    What were the Posts That Gretchen liked on The Real Housewives of Orange County?

    A Twitter (now X) user posted a thread of screenshots of Gretchen Rossi allegedly liking racist, anti-COVID vaccine, anti-abortion, homophobic, and transphobic posts on Instagram in 2023.

    The homophobic posts include a graphic with the American flag and text saying, “I don’t know about you, but I’d rather have a whole month dedicated to the people that have lost their lives fighting for our freedom instead of a month of celebrating your preference in the bedroom. Another post written by conservative musician Tyson James, “When you open the door to homosexuality, you opened the door to pedophilia. You’ll never win by normalizing perversion.”

    As for the transphobic posts, Gretchen allegedly liked a post mocking trans influencer and activist Dylan Mulvaney, a few which are posted by extreme right-winger Matt Walsh.

    Another includes a commentary by Bible activist Allie B Stuckey about a trans activist. She wrote in the comments, “This is the ‘trans’ influencer who went viral for flashing at the White House a couple weeks ago, now attempting to use the Bible to justify identifying as the opposite sex. I think this is the most loving response we can possibly give. By the way: Jesus is very clear about gender – see Matthew 19:4-5” Gretchen allegedly commented praise emojis on another one of her posts where the commentator said, “If, as a professing Christian, your conscience isn’t at least troubled by voting for the party endorsing the abortion of 40 week babies and the genital mutilation of children, I’d like to humbly suggest that’s a problem.

    She also allegedly liked a post saying that “neo-pronouns were a joke” with a screenshot of a thread with Elon Musk.

    Heather Dubrow and Tamra Judge got into a fight with Gretchen because they had children who were in the LGBTQ+ community. Heather explained to Variety that she told her castmate off-camera that the behavior was dangerous. “Terry’s for you page is cats. Mine is, I like to watch people wrap presents and things like that. But when you follow that many hate accounts, your algorithm has got to be showing you terrible things. And so how do you not notice that?” 

    “And look, there were other posts that she liked outside of the queer community that I also don’t agree with. But you know, everyone’s entitled to their opinions on things, but when someone starts calling it a lifestyle choice being gay — it’s tough!”

    As to where she stands with Gretchen now, she said, “You’ve always been kind to us. I can’t imagine what your for you page looks like, but I hope you use this. Because not just me and my family, but your other friends in the community — this is very upsetting to all of us. So I hope that she takes this moment to really look at what she’s liking and posting.”

    If you or someone you know is in crisis, The Trevor Project offers 24/7 crisis intervention and suicide prevention services for LGBTQ+ young people via phone, text, or chat at 866-488-7386.

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  • RHOC Reunion Part 3 Recap: Tamra Threatens to Sue Gretchen After She Accuses Her of Being Behind Controversial Liked Posts & Feuds With Emily as More Allegations Surface, Plus Jenn Confronts Katie Over Convo With Friend Nicole

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    The OC ladies have been trippin’ (quite literally) this season.  As the reunion for season 19 of The Real Housewives of Orange County concludes, it seems like a happy ending is not in the cards.  Gretchen denies liking homophobic posts, despite following accounts that discuss that hate rhetoric, and Tamra gets accused of leaking content from the season.

    When confronted, not only does Tamra deny involvement, but she becomes infuriated. After 15 years on the show, Tamra has never once had this sort of problem, but she finds it interesting that once Gretchen and Slade come back on, issues seem to appear from thin air…

    From New Orleans, to Amsterdam, this group of women have traveled around… and they brought the drama with them. But they did manage to have some fun, mainly with recreational drugs. Shannon STILL believes she heard the OC theme song when she was on ‘shrooms and Andy lives for Heather wakin’ n bakin’. Speaking of Heather, she discusses the cathartic experience of spreading her father’s ashes and is grateful Emily was there to give the support she needed.  

    Andy brings up the emotional final dinner in Amsterdam when the ladies confront Gretchen’s alleged social media actions. Gretchen explains that there is no excuse for liking anything with “offensive sentiment” and she “completely denounces” anything that seems homophobic or transphobic.  Gretchen claims she did not recognize any of the posts, but admits that she does follow the accounts.

    Gretchen blames liking said posts on mindlessly scrolling without looking at the content of the post. WHAT.  Tamra points out that Gretchen unfollowed over two hundred hate accounts when she got back from Amsterdam.  Does that make Gretchen look guilty?

    Tamra wonders why Gretchen would be following someone with that type of content to begin with, but Gretchen plays dumb. She claims she follows both left and right wing accounts, especially around the 2020 election, and Andy reminds the group it is a free country-Gretchen can follow whoever. 

    Heather explains that after 14 years of knowing Gretchen, she has never seen Gretchen in that light. However, she has heard “rumblings” about Gretchen and this type of rhetoric. Heather reminds Gretchen that if she follows these accounts, her For You page is going to be full of hate. Tamra printed out posts from two days ago that shows Gretchen STILL liking this type of content. Gretchen calls it a “good lesson” and shares that she unliked many old posts.

    In order to prove to Heather that she was set up, Gretchen hired a cyber analysis company. The 25 page report confirms that the most egregious post may be a combo of AI and other imaging software. On top of that, the analysis found links between the hate accounts and Tamra!! 

    Tamra denies this wholeheartedly and explains that she has known about this situation since 2022. Gretchen claims someone called her to let her know Tamra and Gina were plotting to take her down with this hate rhetoric.  Andy wonders why Tamra would bring this up after resolving the issues with Gretchen. But Tamra is engaged.  She calls Gretchen a “homophobic b*tch,” but Gretchen believes that Tamra is the one putting everything out into the press. 

    In the end, Gina wishes that she brought up the post situation a different way. She apologizes to Gretchen since it caused some public drama.

    Heather explains that she felt as though Tamra was trying to drop the Gretchen post into her lap to make her run with it, but Heather chose not to take the bait. Tamra wonders why she is getting blamed for Gretchen liking homophobic stuff. When Emily jumps, wondering why Tamra would bring Gina into the mix, Tamra calls Emily an a*shole and seethes with anger. 

    Tamra reminds Emily, “by the way sweetheart, we had to switch you back on because when you got off, it [your podcast] tanked.” Tamra feels like she can come for Emily like that because she called her an a*shole, but the reality is, Tamra called Emily that FIRST! Tamra is always the victim. She misremembers, claiming she has always been nice to Emily, but calling her Shrek does not seem nice to me…

    Seeing remorse from Emily, Gina, and Heather makes Gretchen feel a little bit better after they all attacked her for liking homophobic posts.  Emily searched for credible sources of this egregious post and came up empty.  A screen shot is not clear evidence. Katie, who was not there, calls this situation heartbreaking as she is an ally to the LGBTQ+ community.

    Gretchen is (sort of) crying because this is not who she is. She calls it a personal attack and feels like it was plotted and planned.  In fact, it brought up PTSD of naked wasted with all the plotting and planning. Gretchen claims that Tamra disseminates information to purposely retaliate.  Remind me again why Katie got banned from hanging out with the group when they’re doing the same thing?!

    Andy shows Tamra that the cyber analysis is linking accounts back to her and, as Gretchen puts it, her “criminal network.” Tamra states that she never leaked information to bloggers…which does not age well once she sees the post filming clip with an anonymous caller.

    Katie looks like she has seen a ghost and Tamra remains cool as a cucumber as they listen to the tipster shell out information that only those filming would know.  According to the source, Tamra was leaking information all season long and the entire content was known by this person. Evidently, Tamra clearly wanted Gina there to do her dirty work this season.

    Tamra wants to know who this guy is.  Andy reminds the group that they all must agree to keep things confidential about the season. Tamra calls this an ambush and points out that after 15 years, there has never been a problem… until Gretchen came back on.  

    Shannon shares that the anonymous person told them Tamra has been doing this for years. The tipster even knew about Shannon’s up fronts drama, info that was not privy to most. Now Tamra seems to find herself in the same seat that Katie was in all season long. Katie is happy to be clean on this one, since the only people who knew about this information filmed the remainder of the season.

    Tamra believes that Slade is working overtime to make her look bad and many people argue that the tone and cadence of the anon voice gives off Slade vibes.  

    Tamra shrieks and promises on her kids’ lives that she would never do this. Heather finds this concerning, but Tamra reminds everyone that the minute Gretchen and Slade are back in the picture, fishy things happen.  Gina feels set up by Tamra, but Tamra thinks that Gina should feel set up by Slade. Andy reminds Tamra that Slade wouldn’t know the information because Gretchen did not even know it.

    Shannon muses if Tamra’s “orgasmic face” on finale night had anything to do with this whole situation.  According to Shannon, it was almost like Tamra was smug in knowing she’s got Gretchen backed in the corner.

    Tamra explains there is no proof (other than the exact content and storyline from the season). Gina points out that if Tamra told anyone anything about the season, even with no mal intent, information is getting out there somehow. 

    Heather wants all of this to stop. Careers, kids, bloggers- it should all be off-limits.  This show should solely be about conflict and resolution between the group.  She reminds everyone this show is not a game of Survivor. Emily jumps in (what else is new?) to say it is imperative not to deal with outside people since it is hard enough as it is within the group. 

    If Gretchen could take back one thing she said this season it would be blabbing about Tamra’s alleged affair. Shannon apologizes once again to Katie for comparing her to Alexis and Katie regrets saying something about Jenn. 

    Heather wishes she was more vocal about the fatty photo and Emily goes back to last year and apologizes to Katie once again.  Gina regrets having asked Katie what she was wearing and she feels bad for saying she does not think Heather is funny.  Tamra regrets sharing the picture of Jenn and Jenn apologizes to both Shannon and Katie.  

    For Katie and Jenn, they need to have a conversation re: Nicole, a friend of Jenn’s. Apparently, Katie asked if Ryan was involved with Matt’s bookie gig. Jenn lets Katie know she can’t do things like this in true friendships, but Katie reminds Jenn that she had not spoken to her for weeks. Katie stands firm, despite Jenn’s accusations.

    Heather leads the ladies in a path to clarity with a toast and season 19 wraps.  Tamra is reeling, trying to claim her innocence to Andy, wondering where all of this information came from. She leans on Katie for support, which is rich considering Katie was also blacklisted this season for doing exactly what Tamra is accused of. 

    Katie reminds Tamra that she needs to remember who is in her corner. Tamra calls it retaliation, but Gina is headstrong that there were things discussed that only Gina and Tamra know…pointing all arrows back to Tamra. SO, is she guilty? Or are Slade and Gretchen truly behind this? 

    TELL US – THOUGHTS ON THIS REUNION FINALE EPISODE OF RHOC?

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  • RHOC Reunion Part 2: Gretchen Claims Matt Said Eddie Is Gay, Katie Blames Jenn for Lost Paycheck, and Tamra Admits Shading Jenn With ‘Fatty’ Photo as Jenn Fires Back Over Affair Rumor

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    The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion continues. Tamra seems to be the common denominator in many of these arguments, but when Katie’s husband, Matt, arrives, the focus changes.  Gretchen’s tactic is to deny and Jenn‘s is to forget anything that ever happened.  Katie is tired of the lies and Matt is ready to set the record straight about “holding the line.”

    Tamra is forever bringing up old dirt about people. In an attempt to defend herself, Tamra freaks out, claiming she does not even talk about Gretchen.  Andy finally steps in to move the show along and switches from Gretchen vs. Tamra to Jenn vs. Tamra.  Look who always seems to be involved in the drama…

    Jenn and Tamra have no relationship because, according to Jenn, Tamra is hard to navigate. Jenn believes Tamra always tries to make people think Jenn is not who she pretends to be. But Tamra feels like Jenn focused on her because she wanted to be on the show.  It’s odd that Tamra is bringing this up now, considering she never appeared to be on bad terms with Katie when she first came onto the show.

    Tamra rattles off all the ways Jenn tries to be like her, but can we actually believe any of them?  For starters, Jenn was never Tamra’s neighbor, considering Tamra moved off the block around the time Jenn moved in. Jenn even points out that Tamra invited her to do a fitness competition; therefore, she was not trying to single-white-female-Tamra!

    Tamra denies being jealous of Gretchen and Jenn, especially when it comes to their looks.  It is odd that Tamra would bring up the infamous fatty photo of Jenn, though.  Heather believes there was no “ill-intent” coming from Tamra, but  Tamra admits she showed the photo to be shady.  Andy jumps in to remind Tamra that there is an OC look, so it’s probably not as deep as Tamra thinks it is- so no, Jenn is NOT trying to be Tamra.

    During an episode, Tamra insinuated that Jenn had an affair at her old yoga studio with an instructor, but Jenn denies this allegation. Tamra simply hears rumors and puts them into the universe.  Jenn admits that she did have an affair and now she is with Ryan and wonders why Tamra’s go-to is to just throw something mean out there to make it stick.

    Although Jenn does not have a set wedding date, the women, especially Emily,  have her back. When it comes to Ryan “oversexualizing” Jenn, she has some insecurities. Jenn worries that this yearning will die out.  Her co-parenting is finally evening out and Will even thanked Ryan for taking the kids in. 

    Gina talks about the questionable friendship between Shannon and Jenn. Jenn claims they are truly tight and is forever indebted to Shannon for throwing her a bridal shower (that she never really wanted). Gina admits to being salty over Shannon’s attention to Jenn, but Shannon wonders why Gina would need to say she is “worried” about her actions.

    Heather is annoyed with Gina because they are both putting themselves back into the world, working once again.  When Gina made fun of Heather’s comedic career, Heather felt hurt.  It seems like any time Heather mentions her career, the other ladies sh*t all over it.   Gina admits that this was an error and apologizes, despite doubling-down in her interview.

    They take a break for lunch and Katie’s husband, Matt, arrives on set. She gets a little emotional talking about how Jenn denied calling her con-artist.  Matt scoffs at this, claiming Jenn is the one getting married to a guy who did a deal with the feds!  

    When Shannon goes to visit Jenn, we learn about a phone call Jenn got from Ryan.  Ryan let Jenn know that Katie made it a point to talk to a friend of theirs named Nicole.  Katie apparently asked Nicole if Ryan was involved in Matt’s illegal bookie business, which is an odd thing to ask ANYONE.  Jenn is furious once she finds this out because she knows Katie was just trying to get dirt to use against her.

    Katie is finally ready for the truth to come to light.  She is irked because she always defended Jenn, but Jenn seemingly hung Katie out to dry when sh*t hit the fan. When it comes to the racially insensitive video Gretchen and Jenn posted, Jenn is angry that Katie came at her.  “How dare you think that it’s racist?” Jenn questions Katie, stating that Katie should know Jenn’s intentions better than that.

    On top of that, Jenn never officially apologized for this until today.  Even Gretchen said she was sorry…sure it was a Chat GPT message, but it was done.  Katie get can’t over how she was not only offended, but then blamed by Jenn for the backlash.

    Jenn states that Katie, apparently, always had an ear to the ground and always knew things about the ladies and their families. Katie is hell bent on this roofie story and wonders why Jenn is not backing her up.

    Andy takes a moment to reset the naked-wasted drama. Last year, Ryan, Jenn, Matt, Katie, Slade, and Gretchen went to dinner (before Gretchen was even on the show).  Katie alleges that Gretchen said she went to the hospital after Tamra drugged her that evening so long ago. Jenn seemingly only remembers SOME details, then claimed she didn’t know anything about it, but knew details the next day.  Seems fishy.

    Gretchen told Jenn she was so sick she probably could have gone to the hospital.  Gretchen understands that her “miscommunication” reliving the traumatic experience made her say words she did not intend.  Shannon claims we are all guilty of misspeaking, but Gretchen saying she DID go to the hospital is certainly not misspeaking, according to this group. After all, Gretchen did pass the lie detector test because she did not go to the hospital, yet Katie said Gretchen told her she had a positive toxicology report. 

    Slade, Ryan, and Matt were invited to come to the reunion, but the only one who comes is Matt. Matt jumps right in (despite shaking) talking about the 911 text message he received from Slade. According to Matt, Slade was directing him to tell Katie to “hold the line” with Gretchen about the naked wasted account.

    Matt claims that Gretchen and Slade chose to tell this story about Tamra to highlight just how dangerous Tamra can be.  He goes on to say this story went into great detail about a drugging and a hospital stay.

    As Gretchen gets backed into a corner, she throws out that Matt said some messed up stuff that night at dinner, too, including Matt saying, “the second I met Eddie, I knew he was gay.” However, Katie claims that Gretchen is the one who said that to begin with!

    Matt threatens Gretchen with, “do you wanna get into it?” multiple times as Gretchen interrupts left and right.  Matt says there are phone logs and records proving Slade’s need to manipulate the narrative. Gretchen explains that Slade thinks Matt and Katie are not only talking to bloggers, but making up stories about Gretchen and Slade! 

    Andy points out that if Gretchen actually went to the hospital so long ago, it would have been a HUGE deal.  Katie knows Gretchen lied about going, but she is not the one responsible for the lie.  It seems like Gretchen got caught up in the tale and perhaps embellished it a bit for her audience? It is interesting that Slade is not there to share his side of the story. 

    Matt points out that Gretchen is Slade’s fourth Housewife, but Gretchen corrects him. She is his third.  Katie claims that Jenn messed with her paycheck and livelihood when she let Katie go down in flames.  This enrages Jenn.  Jenn wants Katie to start taking ownership of the situation.  And, at the end of the day, Jenn lost a friend in Katie…

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  • RHOC Reunion Recap: Gretchen Calls Tamra a “F—king Liar” After Tamra is Called Out for Bringing Up Dirt on Cast, Plus Tamra Tells Shannon to Shut Up, Katie Confronts Emily, and Gina Apologizes to Katie

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    The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion begins for season 19. Part one brings Katie back onto our screens after being missing from the latter half of the episodes. It also brings a “new” Tamra, which is laughable since all she does is fly off the handle any time Shannon speaks. But when Gretchen joins the group, she is ready to clear up some of the lies and set the record straight with Tamra.

    Andy greets all of the Housewives, and we learn that Shannon is fresh off a week at the Golden Door. Heather is happy about her quick commute for the reunion, and Emily explains that despite having a rough season, she managed to lose 25-30 pounds. Gina is loving the real estate business, and Katie is thrilled to be on set. Jenn (thankfully) was not dressed by Ryan, and Tamra promises she won’t be quitting today (yet). She explains that she is in better spirits because Teddi has zero tumors detected. 

    Tamra wants to be less reactive, but even Andy feels like Tamra’s behavior was not much different than the way she acted in the past. Tamra DID attend Alexis’ wedding and admits she feels weird talking about how beautiful it was in front of Shannon. Because Jenn chose Shannon over Alexis, she was uninvited and then reinvited. Exhausting.

    Shannon mutters that she did not get the grace that Tamra always asks for. She refers to Tamra as “Tamra Grudge” for the way she behaved all season. Tamra explains that Alexis said that Shannon was trying to ice Tamra out to try and get her off the show, but Shannon scoffs at this. Katie loves a chance to throw someone under the bus, so she calls Shannon out. Apparently, Jenn told Katie that Shannon called a producer about Tamra, but Andy debunks this rumor.

    When it comes to NOT trusting Tamra with sensitive information, Heather explains that she is a “historical friend” of Tamra’s. Her inconsistent and unpredictable behavior is what makes Heather a bit leery. After all, Tamra throws people’s secrets in their faces to hurt them. Take, for instance, when Tamra brought up Shannon’s dad’s drinking habits on screen. Tamra wonders why it’s okay for Shannon to discuss her familial drinking back in 2020, but when she brings it up, she gets in trouble.

    Shannon gets emotional, and Tamra claims she was not trying to single her dad out, since it was not her place at all. Jenn wonders when Tamra might look in the mirror and realize the issues are all stemming from HER. Tamra’s plan is to stay calm, apologize, and take accountability.

    Katie was accused of “stirring a pot of deception” this season. The viewers rallied around Katie after the lie detector episode, and it is clear that the women are shocked by the support Katie is receiving.

    Katie is still claiming she only sent the voice memo of Shannon freaking out to her husband, Matt, but Alexis also said she heard the recording. Before Shannon has the chance to question Katie, Tamra jumps in and brings up how Shannon filmed Vicki back in the day without her knowing it. Shannon claims this was done for safety during a fight between Vicki and her husband, but that’s a prime example of Tamra being Tamra and dredging up the past.

    Last year at the reunion, Emily brought up Katie’s custody battle with her children. Katie still wonders why Emily thought that would EVER be an okay thing to do and doesn’t understand why she has to explain herself 12 years later. Emily is tired of Katie using bloggers and journalists to fight her battles, and Katie apologizes for what occurred. 

    Jenn is still suffering from amnesia anytime she is in the hot seat, and she can’t remember saying Katie was a con artist. She merely thinks things do not add up with Katie.

    Katie told US Weekly that she felt set up and believes Emily was behind the whole lie detector situation. According to Emily, Katie said on camera that she would take a lie detector test. Emily admits a lie detector is ~36% accurate, and Emily’s only input was that the women come up with the questions anonymously. Emily denies setting Katie up and states she already knows Katie is lying — no machine needs to figure that out.

    Tamra points out that Emily says a lot of things in her confessionals about her, but she does not say the snide comments to her face. When Shannon comes in to remind Tamra that she makes snide comments too, Tamra jumps down her throat. Emily apologizes for saying Tamra never had girlfriends, but I think her fingers are crossed.

    Gina addresses the alleged racist comments about Katie’s clothing. Gina feels like it may have triggered a trauma in Katie, and Gina says she is sorry. Katie thinks it seemed inappropriate and denies calling her the R-word; rather, it had undertones of that type of behavior. Katie is the first Asian on RHOC in 18 years, and so she does not take any of this lightly. Katie accepts Gina’s apology, and Shannon gets in on this apology tour. Katie hopes there is a chance to move forward.

    In the meantime, Gretchen is prepping to clear up all the BS. She continues to deny saying that Tamra drugged her, and she is ready to show them that Gretchers means business.

    Emily can barely hold it together as she talks about her son Luke. Thanks to some viewer moms, Emily was alerted to PANDAS, a condition that can develop within a kid after having strep throat. Luke had a bad case of strep throat in January, and all of his symptoms are associated with this, especially as a child on the spectrum. She goes on to explain that Luke is going to have laser treatment on his brain to reduce the swelling. When it comes to her relationship with Shane, Emily calls it solid, but she wishes she had more emotional support. The Wife Swap episode did help her open her eyes to how much Shane does in their household. 

    Jenn gets to share that Dawson graduated from boot camp, despite passing out, and Tamra had a conversation and a HUG with her estranged daughter, Sidney. Shannon’s daughter is still traveling in Europe.

    It’s been 12 years since we’ve seen Gretchen (Jon-Benet Ramsey or Pink Elsa) on this stage. Gretchen explains that she is an influencer as her main source of income and that Slade is a consultant and sits on the Liberace foundation board (what?!). Guess Tamra can’t be responsible for Slade not having work…

    When it comes to Gretchen and Slade’s relationship, Heather makes it clear that their finances are no one’s business, but because of her reservations about his financial situation, it seemed like the proposal was fake. Andy even admits he thought Gretchen would want to get married on TV and have Bravo pay for the wedding. Tamra muses, “In God’s eyes, don’t you think you should be married?” Gretchen retorts that they had a ceremony… just no legal paperwork.

    Gretchen wishes that she had not brought up the Tamra affair rumor (which has been denied by all parties), but Tamra calls BS. Emily is irritated because Tamra and Gretchen called a truce, and then this happened. The 17-year feud with Tamra has been exhausting. Gretchen apologizes, but she points out that the alleged affair is in the press. It’s weird that Tamra is the only one who can bring up old dirt on people, and Tamra actually proves this point TWICE while talking to Andy. Shannon calls it “pure hypocrisy” before Tamra bites her head off. Looks like Tamra’s plan to stay calm, apologize, and take accountability can go right out the window as she goes back and forth with Gretchen about who is the worst liar…

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  • Gretchen Rossi Denies Slade Was Behind RHOC Blogger Finale Call Controversy, Addresses Homophobic Posts She’s Accused of Liking as She’s Seen With Trump Hat in Resurfaced Clip

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    Gretchen Rossi is speaking out amid claims that Slade Smiley was the person behind the distorted male voice heard at the end of the finale episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County.

    After the unidentified person accused Tamra Judge, 58, of leaking stories about the show, Gretchen, 47, addressed the rumors in a comment after Zack Peter, of the No Filter with Zack Peter podcast, alleged that it was “1,000 percent true” that Tamra had been in touch with podcasters and bloggers throughout season 19, and had leaked information about what was going down behind the scenes.

    “I can say that with full conviction. I’ve known about this since at least July,” Zack began in a video shared to Instagram on October 31.

    According to Zack, he believed the finale phone call and the DMs that preceded it likely came from a producer.

    “This happens in reality TV a lot, where producers will get info and they’ll leak it through like a DM or through like an anonymous Q&A question or something, and it’s to push the storyline forward. It happens in reality TV all the time,” he explained.

    Whatever the case, Zack said he can “guarantee” that “Tamra’s absolutely been leaking things for months.”

    “She’s been reaching out to podcasters, she’s been telling them not to have Gretchen on their show, not to interview Gretchen because, ‘Just wait. At the finale, Gretchen’s gonna be exposed. There are these homophobic posts, and Gretchen’s been ‘liking’ them.’ I can probably name at least five people that have gotten this info from Tamra over the last several months,” he stated. “She’s absolutely been planting seeds all summer long.”

    Zack then criticized Teddi Mellencamp, 44, for dragging Scheana Shay, 40, into the storyline by suggesting she was involved in the passing on of the rumor regarding the supposed drugging and hospitalization of Gretchen.

    “She knew exactly what she was doing by throwing Scheana Shay’s name into the mix because the Bravo fans already hate Scheana that it was just a greater adversary for them to direct their heat onto, and they got their pitchforks, and the fans loved it, and they came for Scheana’s neck,” he suspected.

    Following the sharing of the post, someone suggested that the voice heard on the finale was that of Slade.

    “They all leak stuff to the bloggers. In all the franchises. However the difference with Tamra is when every podcaster or a blogger interviews her she straight up comes out and says what she has to say boldly … We see it in the replays. Why would she ‘leak’ things that she says out right? Even on their Two Ts in a Pod. Gretchen and Slade clearly set this up and that voice sounds like Slade,” they alleged.

    But Gretchen denied it, suggesting there is proof to the contrary.

    “It’s not Slade [and] all the cast [and] production can verify that,” Gretchen replied.

    RHOC Gretchen Rossi Reacts to Rumor of Slade Being Behind Blogger Phone Call

    Another fan said that while they didn’t believe that Gretchen had “liked” the homophobic and anti-abortion rights posts, they didn’t understand how the screenshots could’ve been manufactured.

    “If you watch they said they found the original posts and they were not showing Gretchen liking them, I think it gets exposed at the reunion that the [screenshots] had been faked,” someone replied. 

    And after seeing the second fan’s comment, Gretchen confirmed, “Yep.”

    RHOC Gretchen Rossi Denies Liking Controversial IG Posts

    Then, after Scheana reacted to Zack’s video with a series of clapping emojis, someone else asked, “So are bloggers going to be the main topic on every housewives show now?”

    “It’s a fabricated post, I didn’t like that … and that is NOT Slade on that phone call,” Gretchen insisted.

    RHOC Gretchen Rossi Denies Blogger Call Was From Slade Smiley

    Another IG user asked why Tamra was getting heat for “leaking” Gretchen’s supposedly “liked” posts when it was Gretchen who reportedly “liked” them.

    “Because as we spoke about this morning, those posts are old. Tamra has known about them for a long time but strategically waited until the finale to use them against Gretchen. Tamra’s circle is surround by MAGA people. But suddenly she takes issue with it, to jab at Gretchen? And then leak it MONTHS before airing?” Zack shared.

    RHOC Gretchen Rossi Defended by Blogger Amid Liked Posts Drama

    Meanwhile, in another video shared on Instagram by Bravo OMG, Gretchen was seen with a Trump hat in a years-old video as she held her daughter, Skylar Gray, now 6.

    “Go Trump, go! I got a Trump hat!” Gretchen declared.

    Then, after Slade warned her of a Biden hat, she added, “No, burn that one!”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 reunion begins next Thursday, November 6, at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Gretchen Rossi Explains Her Lack of Reaction to Claims of ‘Liking’ Anti-LGBTQ Posts as Tamra Reveals What Made it “Worse” & Emily Shares What Was “Concerning”

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    Gretchen Rossi was accused of “liking” a series of controversial posts, including homophobic messages and anti-abortion rights statements, on Thursday’s finale episode of the 19th season of The Real Housewives of Orange County, and after the show aired, the cast commented on her “concerning” lack of a reaction.

    As Gretchen, 47, explained why she didn’t have much to say after the accusations were made, her co-stars, including Emilly Simpson, 49, Tamra Judge, 58, and Heather Dubrow, 56, raised suspicions as Shannon Beador, 61, attempted to defend her.

    “I was so confused because, in my heart, I’m like, ‘There’s no way I would’ve liked a post like that.’ What am I supposed to say to this? I know fundamentally in my heart what I feel and how I believe, so, but it’s like, how are you supposed to defend that in that moment?” Gretchen wondered on the October 30 episode of the RHOC: After Show. “I was legitimately in shock and confused. And then it just got weirder and weirder and weirder.”

    “I thought you would have come unhinged if you knew in your soul that it was not you,” Jennifer Pedranti, 48, replied.

    Meanwhile, Emily, who said she would have been “livid” if similar accusations were made against her, expected Gretchen to lash out at Tamra.

    “I thought that her reaction would’ve been, ‘F*ck you, Tamra. This is you creating bullsh*t about me.’ And that’s what I thought the reaction might be, and then I was gonna sit and analyze that. But there was no reaction from her,” she noted as Tamra added that Gretchen’s lack of a reaction “made it worse.”

    “If someone was accusing me of something, you just want to go, ‘How can I prove that this is ridiculous, that this is so not true?’” Heather reasoned.

    As for what else raised a red flag for Emily, she gave a nod to Gretchen’s chat with Slade Smiley, 51, as she questioned who Gretchen was.

    “The other things that was concerning for me is that she showed no emotion or really any kind of reaction until after she spoke to Slade. I don’t know where you land because I can’t tell what’s genuinely you and what’s Slade guiding you,” she explained.

    Elsewhere, Shannon said she “can’t imagine” that Gretchen did what she’s accused of.

    “I’ve seen a kind, devoted mom, [a] faith-based gal, and a girl who has a lot of friends in the LGBTQ community. So I don’t know. I’m waiting with you to see what happens,” she told Heather. “Something doesn’t make sense about all of it.”

    Shannon then noted that everyone reacts differently to different scenarios.

    “Shannon Beador laughs. Gretchen just was blindsided and like, ‘What?’ And some people are [deer] in the [headlights] and some people go, and they’re very vocal about what’s going on. So I don’t want to judge her based on her reaction,” she concluded.

    The three-part Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 reunion begins next Thursday, November 6, at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Shannon Beador Addresses Alexis Wedding Drama, Tamra Saying Jenn Has to Follow Shannon’s Rules, & Vicki Having Alexis on Podcast, Plus Possible Katie Friendship & Reunion

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    Shannon Beador appeared on Thursday’s episode of Watch What Happens Live, where she addressed Tamra Judge‘s claims regarding her supposed rules for her friends and revealed whether she told Jennifer Pedranti to skip the recent wedding of Alexis Bellino and John Janssen.

    After her friendship with Jenn, 48, was called into question on the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County, Shannon, 62, commented on Vicki Gunvalson, 63, welcoming Alexis to her podcast, shared if she’s open to a friendship with Katie Ginella, 41, teased the upcoming reunion, and more.

    “Everyone can make their own choices as to who they want to be friends with,” Shannon stated on the October 23 episode of WWHL after being asked about Tamra, 58, saying she felt bad for Jenn because people have to obey Shannon’s rules if they want to be friends with her.

    “Jenn and I are great friends. I’m friends actually, with pretty much everyone on the cast, except one,” she continued, proceeding to deny that she had told Jenn not to go to Alexis’ wedding.

    “You can see at Tamra’s cake decorating party, she brought it up and I said, ‘Are you going?’ And she said, ’No.’ And I said, ’Thank you,’” she recalled. “But in the end, Alexis did invite her on the day of.”

    While Shannon was blindsided when John broke up with her in late 2022, she said that “a long time” had passed, which has allowed her to move on. 

    “Congratulations. I’ve said publicly, it looked beautiful. It looked like a really pretty wedding. So, good luck,” she told the couple. 

    As for Vicki having Alexis on her podcast, Shannon confirmed her friend reached out to her first.

    “She called me the day that it was happening and told me that it was … Once again, it’s been two years now, so I’m good. I know that where I am in my life has never been better, so I’m fine with Alexis talking to whoever she wants to,” she explained. 

    During a game in which she was asked if she was closing the door on certain things, Shannon revealed that while a Tres Amigas reunion was “not possible,” nor was making peace with Alexis and John, she was open to a future friendship with Katie.

    “What happened was a lot for me. I felt very invaded [by Katie’s secret audio recording] because we were so close at the time she did it. Um, but you know, I’m on a housewife show, so I’ll say never say never,” she shared.

    Also not possible was a reconciliation with Love Hotel‘s Earl “Earl the Pearl” Thompson, 59.

    “That’s shut. That was shut a year ago. So maybe stop using my photos when you’re trying to post things,” she advised, before whispering, “I shouldn’t have said that.”

    Moving on to Gina Kirschenheiter, 41, Shannon was asked about her castmate saying she pushed her away because she held her accountable.

    “Well, we had a talk about that too because she was upset that I didn’t … you know, by the way, I wanted to throw a nice luncheon,” Shannon replied, changing the subject. “And I thought, ‘Let’s do it for Jenn.’ And everyone’s like, ‘Why are we going to this?’ Ugh, why did Tamra have a cake-baking party after she flipped [Gretchen Rossi] off? We have events.”

    When a fan wanted to know if Shannon would ever be able to trust Tamra, who was known for a pattern of “rage, regret, and repeat,” again, Shannon suggested she would not.

    “I think that I’ve come to a good place with her where I can film with her and I can even laugh with her sometimes. But I will never be her close friend again, and that is me making a healthy choice,” she explained. 

    As for the reunion, Shannon said that while she asked herself, “Should I have said that?,” after the taping, she felt that it was a “good reunion.”

    “You said a lot. You did,” Andy Cohen, 57, shared as Shannon asked, “Isn’t that the point?”

    “Yes. I mean it in a good way,” he confirmed, wondering who was in the hot seat the most.

    “Tamra and Gretchen,” Shannon replied.

    Also on the live airing, Shannon shared her rose and thorn of season 19.

    “I think that my rose clearly is that this season was more fun for me and the fact that I was able to develop very strong friendships with a lot of the girls that I didn’t think that I would and my thorn, it’s a thorn with like, nice things around it, is that now I have twice as much poop to clean up with two dogs,” she revealed.

    Later on Thursday night, on the WWHL: After Show, Shannon was asked if she believed there was any merit to what Katie said during her meeting with Tamra.

    “I’m just gonna say that we all have misspoke. There was a year where I said, ‘Don’t accuse me of things I do.’ Well, of course, that’s not what I meant. I [meant] ‘don’t do.’ And so I do not believe that Gretchen said what she said [about being drugged and hospitalized amid her ‘naked wasted’ drama with Tamra on season four]. I think she did misspeak. And, you know, that’s where I stand with it,” she declared.

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC Recap: Gretchen’s Disturbing Social Media Activity Comes to Light as She Breaks Down Over Years-Long Feud With Tamra, Plus Gina Questions Jenn & Shannon’s Friendship

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    The Amsterdam trip continues on this episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County.  Shannon is still coming down from the effects of her space cake, Gina’s mushroom micro dose has her running her mouth, and Emily is (shockingly) not tired of stirring the pot.  Gretchen‘s emotional meltdown after trying to clear things up with Tamra dampens the mood, but it’s the post she liked and commented on that really has people questioning just who IS Gretchers?

    The ladies have switched ensemble vibes from leather and lace for the Red Light district to floral and pastels for the tulip field trip. They really love to dress the part.  Heather has decided that micro dosing mushrooms with Gina at 10:20 am would be a fabulous idea in hopes of bringing out the vibrant tulip colors.  

    On the ride there, Tamra calls Gretchen a downer and Emily points out that Gretchen always seems to creep around Tamra.  But it’s not just Gretchen’s name on this van-group’s lips.  Jenn becomes a topic of conversation. Gina believes that Jenn is just “whoever everybody tells her to be.” They all wonder why Shannon is going around saying Jenn is not attending Alexis’s wedding, despite being invited.  Evidently, Shannon told Jenn NOT to go and Tamra sees that Shannon is making Jenn fall into line by obeying her friendship rules.

    The tulip fields are beautiful (mushrooms are not even needed to see the vibrancy, Heather) and Gina is really starting to feel the effects of the ‘shrooms.  She chats with Emily about the Jenn and Shannon of it all and becomes angry.  Gina wonders why Shannon did not throw HER a party to celebrate the fact that she is back together with Travis.  This is a crazy thing to say. Gina feels like Shannon always pushes her away because she holds Shannon accountable and therefore is always the bad guy. 

    The ladies sit down for some lunch and loose-lips-Gina brings up Alexis’s wedding.  According to Emily, a high Gina never STFUs and that very much tracks. Jenn claims that Shannon never outright asked her to not go to Alexis’s wedding.  Emily wonders out loud if Shannon is ok with Jenn being good friends with Alexis.  Don’t her arms ever get tired from all the stirring?!

    Jenn makes it clear that Shannon’s issues with Alexis are only Shannon’s issues. Although Shannon cannot dictate who Jenn is friends with, their friendship is now getting judged by Shannon. 

    Gina blurts out that Jenn did not even want the shower luncheon Shannon threw.  In fact, according to Gina, Jenn thought it was “ridiculous.” Jenn is appalled, but tries to backtrack despite questionable video footage.  Gina states she is being honest and wonders why Jenn is trying to foster this “fake friendship.” Shannon is beyond hurt.

    Gina wonders why Shannon didn’t celebrate HER family coming back together.  No one knows what the issue is, so Emily enters to try and figure out the authenticity of Shannon and Jenn’s friendship because it is totally her business-not.

    Shannon is left feeling stupid, wondering where she stands with Jenn, and the group piles back into the vans. Jenn and Gretchen chat about being content creators and explain that it’s a full-blown business.  Gretchen calls herself a serial entrepreneur and she wants Jenn to get in on this side hustle, but first she needs to drop Ryan on all her Instagram posts.

    Emily thinks it is hilarious to gift the women tacky trucker hats with even tackier sayings on them.  When Heather dons an “I heart c*ck” hat, we know that hell is freezing over.  They split into two groups and get into hot tub boats on the canal.  Emily forces Gretchen and Tamra into one “crockpot” in an effort to have them make amends.

    On the other boat, Shannon thought things were different with Jenn.  Jenn led Shannon to believe that she is not friendly with Alexis, therefore she is now questioning the honesty between them. Shannon wants Jenn to understand that Alexis crossed certain lines and wonders why Jenn would think Alexis is so great. 

    In the meantime, Emily is doing the most trying to get Gretchen and Tamra on the same page.  Gretchen admits to messing up the night in LA, but Tamra wonders what intentions Gretchen had at the charity event when she confronted her with Slade. The pact they made at the beach to move on got breached almost immediately because it’s a never ending tit-for-tat cycle. 

    Gretchen realizes that Emily is being a flip-flopper in this situation.  Tamra tells Gretchen she is “not relevant, which perpetuates the cycle.  Emily points out that Gretchen is guilty in this mess and so Gretchen claims she will be more introspective. Gretchen plans on taking accountability, but notice Tamra stays mum.

    Gretchen states that Tamra has yet to take Jesus Christ into her heart, so why should she change now and be an apologetic person?

    As they walk off the boat, Tamra reads a headline on her phone and she questions Jenn right away.  Jenn admits that she DOES have to pay a 6 figure judgement after a lawsuit for allegedly not paying rent on her studio.  The modified rent plan during Covid is now forcing Jenn to pay back that money. Tamra feels like Jenn could have been better off financially if she made smarter decisions. 

    Gretchen becomes upset in the Sprinter because she feels like all of the things said over the years about Tamra and to Tamra are pretty ugly.  She cries that she doesn’t want to hurt anyone, but the nastiness is more of a defense mechanism. 

    Because of Gretchen’s emotions, she is choosing to come late to the dinner.   In the meantime, Shannon and Jenn are making up synchronized dances in the food hall, proving that their friendship is still going strong.

    As they dine, Tamra states that she is “bugged.” The ladies try to tell her that in the bus, Gretchen showed her genuine side and this time, it seems like she really means her apology.

    Gretchen eventually rolls up, two hours late, and the mood changes. Despite Gina and Emily trying to move the storyline along, Gretchen is still not ready to talk about her break down.  She explains that it stems from pain, but Tamra points out that Gretchen keeps bringing things up. 

    Although it was a long time ago, things bubbled up once again for Gretchen and she is wishing it was different. Heather reminds Gretchen that everyone has to be accountable and Gretchen apologizes (again) for bashing Tamra for 12 years.

    The next day, Gina and Emily debrief. Gina claims she is struggling with Gretchen because of something she saw on social media.  About two weeks ago, Gina was at the dispensary with Tamra and she brought up these “alarming” posts that Gretchen liked.  Gretchen even commented on some of the posts and Gina is having a hard time believing that is who Gretchen is at her core.

    While the show doesn’t go into detail on the exact posts, they appear to be referring to screenshots that appear to show Gretchen liking homophobic posts on social media. Gretchen has since claimed the screenshots of that seemingly show her liking these posts are fake. 

    Gina can’t let this whole situation go: “Once you see stuff like this, you gotta call it out and not ignore it.” It isn’t adding up that Gretchen would be launching hate campaigns, but Gina wants Gretchen to explain herself…

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  • Dorinda Medley and Kiki Monique Get into Heated Spat on-Air Over Katie Ginella Drama on RHOC

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    Real Housewives of New York star Dorinda Medley and Kiki Monique got into a heated spat on air, as the SiriusXM cohosts argued over the situation with Katie Ginella on Real Housewives of Orange County. At one point in the exchange, Dorinda declared, “Let me tell you something, Kiki…”

    On RHOC’s new season, Tamra Judge shared that Kiki claimed Katie told her that Gretchen Rossi accused Tamra of drugging her. Katie denied telling Kiki, but she claimed Gretchen indeed said it. Kiki, who co-hosts a radio show with Dorinda, has maintained that she’s telling the truth.

    On the Tuesday, October 17, episode of Reality Checked, Dorinda seemed to praise Katie for not backing down on some of her claims. Kiki then clapped back, mentioning Katie’s claim that she never shared the Gretchen allegations with her. Things then got awkward.

    At one point, Dorinda suggested that Kiki didn’t enjoy the episode.

    “I think you’re putting emotions on me that I don’t have,” said Kiki to Dorinda. “I’m just reacting as a normal person would. I think you’re taking it personally.”

    “I’m not putting, no, no, no — I’m not putting any emotions on you,” Dorinda clapped back.

    “I was just telling you how I feel in that situation,” said Kiki.

    “Let me tell you something, Kiki,” said Dorinda. “I am not putting any emotions on you … I think you’re doing a great job putting emotions on yourself … We just had a discussion, so don’t start putting blame on me. Cause I’m not doing that here.”

    “Who’s blaming you?” Kiki asked. “I was just sharing my opinion.”

    “Did you just not say … I’m putting emotions on you?” asked Dorinda. “[I’m] absolutely not.”

    “Yeah, [because] you said … ‘it seems like you didn’t enjoy the episode,’” answered Kiki.

    “That’s an opinion,” said Dorinda. “That’s an opinion … I didn’t say it seems like you’re putting emotions on this episode and not enjoying it. I said it didn’t seem like you enjoyed the episode. My opinion, that’s it. I get to have an opinion.”

    “Okay, great,” said Kiki.

    “Let’s not try to shove it off on me,” said Dorinda.

    According to fan account @just_bookin_around, who shared the clip on TikTok, Dorinda was not on the episode the next day.

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  • Shannon Beador Shades Alexis and John’s “Priorities” After Publicized Wedding and Reacts to Being in Last Chair at RHOC Reunion, Plus Defends Gretchen Rossi

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    Shannon Beador reacted to John Janssen‘s recent wedding to Alexis Bellino while appearing on Wednesday’s episode of Jeff Lewis‘ radio show.

    As she also spoke of her seating position at the Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 reunion, which filmed earlier this month, and addressed her friendship with Gretchen Rossi, 46, Shannon, 61, gave a nod to John, 62, and Alexis’ wedding story for PEOPLE, which was published very soon after they said, “I do,” on October 3.

    “They got married and it was like, in PEOPLE magazine two hours later,” Shannon shared on the October 15 episode of SiriusXM’s Jeff Lewis Live, proceeding to shade John and Alexis’ “priorities.”

    Although Shannon admitted the wedding “looked pretty,” she agreed with Jeff’s suggestion that she “doesn’t give a sh*t” about her ex-boyfriend’s new marriage.

    “No,” she replied. “Time heals everything, and it makes you see more clearly.”

    At another moment of Jeff’s show, Shannon confirmed the RHOC season 19 reunion had been filmed as she revealed she was seated in the last chair, which has long been thought to indicate a potentially jeopardized role on the show.

    “I was at the end. I’ve never been at the end before. I’ve usually been in the first or second seat. I was in the end. I was straight across from [Heather Dubrow]. Heather and I were in the same position,” she shared as Jeff, 55, reasoned that she and Heather, 56, were “OGs” and likely had nothing to worry about in terms of season 20.

    According to Shannon, “it was quite nice” to be out of the drama for once.

    “By the grace of God, I wasn’t in a lot of the mix for once, so it was quite nice to be a part of it. But there were a lot of dark things that happened this year, and I wanted to be opinionated about them,” she explained. 

    Then, when asked if production chose to seat her next to Gretchen because they typically pair allies, Shannon said she “[thinks] so” as she defended her castmate against backlash.

    “There were certain things that were potential issues for me during this season, but there’s still a lot more to come, and I think that Gretchen has a very big heart. I do believe that. I’ve seen it,” Shannon stated. “And she may have issues with some cast members, but then you look at how she’s treated other of us, and she doesn’t have a mean bone.”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Jo De La Rosa Calls Out Jenn for Pretending Not to Know Her & Leaks Their Texts, Plus Details Past Friendship With Gretchen & Unaired Fight as Jenn Claps Back

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    Jo De La Rosa called out Jennifer Pedranti and Gretchen Rossi after the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County.

    In a “fact-checking” post shared to her Instagram Story, Jo, 45, reacted to Jenn, 48, asking, “Who’s Jo,” on the RHOC: After Show. She also fired back at Gretchen, 46, who downplayed their past friendship and accused her of being “desperate” to regain her position on the Bravo reality series.

    “What’s wild to me is I literally met Jenn at the season finale last year at her engagement party. I thought she was the sweetest, nicest person. I used to work for [Ryan Boyajian]. I got her number. I said, ‘It was so nice to meet you.’ And then I was trying to get together with her for lunch because I had some things I wanted to tell her.”

    She continued, “So we have text messages, trying to figure out a time to get together. So I just think it’s wild when she’s asking Gretchen who I am because she knows who I am,” Jo explained, showcasing a text exchange between them.

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    Moving on to Gretchen, Jo said they’ve had a “very long and messy journey.”

    “We started out years ago as friends — even though she claims we weren’t friends. So maybe that was my mistake. I thought we were,” Jo admitted. “She was literally in the back of my music video back in the day when I used to do music, and I invited all my friends to be there. I had gone on a double date with her when I was with [Slade Smiley]. She had come to an iHeartRadio event with me. In my head, that’s definitely more than an acquaintance.”

    Jo even “tried to be there for” Gretchen amid her legal drama with ex-boyfriend, Jay Photoglou, whom she accused of defamation years ago.

    They were even friendly at a BravoCon event years ago, where they presented Vicki Gunvalson, 63, with the Wifetime Achievement Award.

    “I went up to Gretchen after years of not talking to her, and I just said, ‘If there’s anything that I ever said, I’m sorry. I just want to start over,’” Jo recalled. “[And] all I was looking for in that moment was an apology back. I never got it. Fine. But I truly felt we were starting over again.”

    But amid filming on RHOC season 19, Jo learned Gretchen had been trash-talking her on podcasts, “talking about how desperate [she was] … to get back on the show.”

    Gretchen also accused Jo of “calling all the housewives” to try to get back on the show. However, when Jo created a group chat for the cast, she did so in an effort to gather donations for one of her friends, who had been impacted by the recent fires in Los Angeles.

    As for claims of calling production, Jo said she did call one of her producers, whom she’d known for years, to tell her she enjoyed being on the finale and would be open to future appearances.

    “I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, considering I was first season cast,” she reasoned. “[Gretchen’s] continuing to spin a narrative that’s not true. I’ve stayed quiet long enough.”

    “Her and I are not good, and there was actually an entire argument that happened at [Heather Dubrow]’s party that never got shown,” she continued. “An entire blowout happened. Slade jumped in at one point, which, I’m so sorry. Gretchen doesn’t need a mouthpiece. You don’t need to speak for her. She can defend herself. It just, it got ugly. It got messy, and at one point, Gretchen grabs Jenn and brings her in to try to make her point, and I’m just not down with the whole gang up.”

    Lastly, Jo took aim at Gretchen for calling her “Slade’s ex.”

    “My name is Jo. You can call me one of the original cast members on housewives, and we can call your husband ‘Joe’s ex,’” she declared.

    Following the sharing of the video, Jenn clapped back at Jo, wondering why she felt the need to make her claims against her in public, rather than reaching out in private. 

    “Hi Jo- girl you still have my number!!” she began. “I thought the EXACT same thing about you! I felt like you were so sweet and kind! I absolutely loved meeting you- I have not watched the after show.. but if I said who’s Jo — to be honest when you showed up at my filmed engagement party last year that was the first time I met you.. hence why I said ‘who is Jo’ … You are correct- since then.. we’ve had a couple of lovely text exchanges. Truly, I don’t see the need to make a TikTok so [Tamra Judge] can go repost it. You could have easily used the number you have for me and we could have had a discussion. Now.. wanting back on the show and doing whatever you need to do to position yourself is a different story.. I can respect that. And if that’s your wishes I truly hope it works for you!!!”

    “You have my number, please call me if you want to chat,” she added.

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    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • Katie Ginella Claims RHOC Costar Called Production to Premeditate Her Takedown, Claps Back at Gina and Addresses Jenn’s Alleged Betrayal, Plus Talks Upcoming Reunion

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    Katie Ginella addressed Gina Kirschenheiter’s comment about “Asian designers,” and why she thinks Jennifer Pedranti “jump[ed] ship.” The Real Housewives of Orange County star also addressed the upcoming reunion, and claimed a costar called production to premeditate her takedown.

    Throughout the new episodes, almost every castmate accused Katie of lying. During a lie detector test, Katie “failed” all the questions – leading to the end of her friendships with Jennifer and Gretchen Rossi. Later on, Katie suggested that Gina and Emily Simpson set up the test so she would fail. Meanwhile, many fans on social media are fiercely siding with Katie, and Jennifer has clapped back at some.

    On Two Ts in a Pod, Katie was asked about Gina’s comment suggesting that Katie wasn’t wearing “Asian designers.”

    “I am not looking to Gina for advice on how to be Asian, or how Asian I need to be. So I’m gonna do that on my own,” she said.

    As for Gina’s suggestion that she might not return if Katie comes back, Katie stated, “I think it’s very sad, and I don’t think I’m that scary … [But] I don’t think [what she’s saying is] the truth.”

    In an interview for ET, Katie addressed her friendship fallout with Jennifer.

    “Jen is someone that I dearly loved, and I felt like last year I stuck up a lot for her in situations regarding the dress at Neiman Marcus and Ryan and all the allegations about Ryan,” said Katie. “I feel like when she saw [them] gang up on me, she thought, ‘Oh, I don’t want to go down with this sinking ship, so I’m going to jump ship basically.’”

    She was asked why Jennifer doesn’t back up her claims.

    “Her hate for Tamra is greater than her love for me, and that’s what all this boils down to,” said Katie. “…[And] the things that she’s doing online are kind of scary. I don’t know … It’s hard. I miss talking to her and I miss the relationship we had, but hopefully we’re going to repair it one day.”

    Katie claimed that the first time she’ll see her castmates in a while will be at the reunion.

    “I will be there,” she said. “I’m hoping to get some apologies. Big ones … I would like to discuss this setup and trying to push me out … [There’s] probably going to be a lot of heat coming my way. It might be everyone on one side and then just me [on the other].”

    Katie said she’s only heard from Tamra Judge since the polygraph drama.

    “[She asks] how [I’m] doing,” said Katie. “She checks in on me, which is really nice.”

    Katie claimed her “biggest regret” of the season was “not standing up for myself,” as she never thought she would be “portrayed as this season’s villain.” Katie found it “suspect” that only Emily, Gina, and Gretchen passed all of their questions on the polygraph.

    She also hinted that certain castmates may not realize there are “biases” behind some of the “words that they are using,” and they should perhaps “do some learning” — as Katie sometimes “felt like an other.”

    According to Katie, one costar told her that a different castmate called the head of production in an attempt to plan her takedown (so Gretchen could take her spot). She suggested that Gina was somehow involved in the plan.

    “I heard from one castmate that another castmate called the head of production and said we need to give Gretchen Katie’s orange. We want her out,” claimed Katie.

    She continued, “So that’s where the planning started from the very beginning of the season. I also think you see in the episode where Gina says to Gretchen, ‘Don’t worry, we have a plan.’ And then says to Tamara, ‘We got her. Don’t worry.’ So, I think a lot of things were premeditated and planned.”

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  • Katie Ginella Accused of Using Bots for Social Media Support Amid Lie Detector Drama on RHOC

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    A fan accused Katie Ginella of using “bots” to support her on social media – amid her controversial drama with Emily Simpson, Gina Kirschenheiter, Gretchen Rossi, and Jennifer Pedranti on the Real Housewives of Orange County.

    In a recent episode, Emily introduced castmates to a surprise lie detector test. According to the results, Katie “failed” a question about whether Gretchen really told her that Tamra Judge drugged her in a past season. After the test, Gretchen and Jennifer seemed to end their friendship with Katie.

    On social media, many fans (and Tamra) have expressed support for Katie – while calling out Gretchen and Jennifer. Katie has suggested that Emily and Gina set up the lie detector test using a paid actor.

    Last week, Redditor u/Prudent-Experience-3 accused Katie of using bots. According to the user, the similarities of the following TikTok comments indicate that they’re coming from bots. Two of the commenters have the same name.

    “Katie is bringing her A-game, no doubt about it. It’s clear she’s not here to mess around!” wrote a user named Evely.

    “Katie’s bringing the heat! Definitely someone to watch this season,” wrote a different fan, Amely.

    “Katie’s definitely bringing the heat! Her energy is unmatched this season,” wrote a Julia.

    “Katie is bringing the heat this season! Her presence is already making waves. Can’t wait to see what she does next!” wrote another Amely.

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    The Redditor then expressed why they believe it’s the work of bots.

    “Not only is [Katie] bad at doing the housewive[s] bloggers game, but she’s also bad at doing the housewive[s] botting game,” said the Redditor. “I really like Katie. Her lying is funny, her flooding the zone with more lies at the ladies tactic is even more funny, and how bad she is at doing housewives politics is even more funny.”

    “Now with this botting game, she couldn’t even get bots with different names,” the user went on. “You got amely and other amely repeating the same message. IDK, this whole thing is funny to me.”

    New episodes of The Real Housewives of Orange County air on Thursday nights on Bravo.

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  • RHOC’s Katie Ginella Explains Why She Failed Lie Detector as Gretchen and Jenn Feel Vindicated After Result, Plus Shannon & Heather React

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    Katie Ginella may have failed her lie detector test on last week’s episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County, but after the show aired, she offered an explanation as to why.

    As the cast, including Tamra Judge, 57, Gretchen Rossi, 46, and Jennifer Pedranti, 48, reacted to Katie’s failed test, with Jenn stating that she stepped back from her friendship with Katie, 41, due to her lies, Katie suggested that a medical condition was to blame, as was the “non-certified” test itself.

    “I really was like, ‘F*ck yeah. Let’s go.’ If there’s a time that the truth is gonna come out, it’s gonna come out now,” Gretchen recalled on the August 28 episode of the RHOC: After Show of how she felt going into the test.

    Meanwhile, after getting in the car to go to Emily Simpson‘s home, where the test was held, Katie realized she’d forgotten to take her anti-anxiety medicine.

    “But I was like, ‘I’ll be fine. No problem.’ And I go there, and the anxiety made me get sick. I was, like, puking when I got there. It’s just too much. I’m getting glares from [Shannon Beador]. She’s, like, daggering me, and I was like, ‘This is too much.’ I just started to get sick. It was just too much anxiety. It was too much,” she explained.

    Then, amid the test, Katie was asked if she was “an anxious person” because her heart was “jumping.”

    “I was anxious, not only to be in this group of women, but then to sit in Emily’s closet and do a random non-certified polygraph test. Not in a controlled environment; in her closet,” she noted.

    After the results of the test were shared, Tamra stated, “All the questions, [Gina Kirschenheiter] passed, and [Emily] passed all of yours. Katie failed all of them.”

    Still, Katie insisted she “had nothing to gain from lying” about what Gretchen allegedly told her about being hospitalized after the “naked wasted” episode of season four.

    “I didn’t do anything. Why would I self-implode like that? There’s literally no reason,” she argued.

    In addition to Gretchen admitting she was “really relieved” when Katie’s results were shared because they were what she “needed everybody else to hear,” Jenn said she felt vindicated as well.

    “It was to a point for me where, ‘Is what Katie is telling me real? Or is Katie also not telling me everything?’ And I kept supporting and I kept backing and I kept defending, then all the other girls are getting frustrated with me … and so it was almost like, for me, like, now I don’t feel like an a**hole for taking a step back from this friendship,” she reasoned.

    Also on the RHOC: After Show, Shannon, 61, admitted it was “a bit chilling” that Katie “failed every single question,” as Heather Dubrow, 56, said she not only failed the whole test, but did so in a way that led the administrator to say they’d “never seen someone fail so tremendously.”

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • Gretchen Rossi Says RHOC Cast Warned Her About Katie Ginella, Slams Her “Horrific Stories,” and Calls Out Fake Behavior, Plus Reflects on Shading Shannon Beador’s DUI, and Responds to Tamra Judge’s Compassion Claims

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    Gretchen Rossi appeared on Heather McDonald‘s podcast on Tuesday, where she reflected on The Real Housewives of Orange County cast’s warnings about Katie Ginella.

    As she also denied that she and her castmates were ganging up on Katie, 41, and accused Katie of using the press to spin lies about them, Gretchen, 46, reflected on her shady comment about Shannon Beador‘s DUI and clapped back at Tamra Judge‘s suggestion that she hasn’t gotten enough compassion on the show.

    “They were all telling me, ‘Gretchen, you need to be careful. This is what she does.’ And I didn’t want to believe it,” Gretchen revealed on the August 26 episode of Juicy Scoop.

    After starting off the season as Katie’s friend, Gretchen began to notice a pattern.

    “Every time we’re turning around, there’s some new blogger,” she explained. “Even the thing that happened with Tamra. That blogger came out and said, ‘Katie is straight-up lying. This did happen. She did call me.’”

    Although fans have accused the RHOC cast of ganging up on Katie, Gretchen insisted that was not the case, signaling Katie’s own antics against the cast.

    “The audience thinks we’re all just ganging up on Katie and going against Katie, but she has strategically done this to each and every cast member, and she’s out spinning these really horrific stories about each cast member and she’s done it to every single one of us, [Gina Kirschenheiter], [Emily Simpson], [Heather Dubrow], Tamra, Shannon, now me,” she shared. “I’m just like, why the heck? Why is she doing this?”

    After admitting that her comment about Shannon’s DUI being illegal amid Shannon’s argument that it was illegal for Katie to secretly record her “wasn’t a great thing to say” since she loves Shannon, 61, Gretchen pointed out that the moment was “real” and “authentic.”

    She then suggested that other women on the show aren’t as genuine.

    “It’s hard when you’re filming with people that are just like, ‘Oh I just gotta give this whole thing,’ and it’s like they’re wiling to say and do anything for this moment, and it’s like, I think we can actually have a lot of moments without trying to have this moment or make sh*t up about people or wreck their life,” Gretchen suggested. “For me, you’re taking it too far.”

    Moving on to Tamra’s recent suggestion that the cast didn’t give her compassion amid Teddi Mellencamp‘s cancer diagnosis, Gretchen shot down the idea.

    “I don’t think anybody didn’t have compassion for what Tamra, and I hate to even say what Tamra was going through because it’s what Teddi’s going through,” she clarified. “Tamra happens to be a good friend of Teddi’s, and I understand that it can affect her, but I’m sorry, when [my late fiancé Jeff Beitzel] was going through cancer, I wasn’t an a**hole. When [my current fiancé Slade Smiley‘s] son died, he wasn’t an a**hole. It doesn’t give you free rein to still be an a**hole and be a bad person.”

    According to Gretchen, the issue that people have with Tamra and her comments about Teddi was that her castmate always seemed to have an excuse for her behavior.

    “It’s like, ‘Oh, I was horrible to Shannon because I’m on the spectrum.’ ‘Oh, I was treating you that way cuz I was in a bad marriage with Simon.’ She always has an excuse,” Gretchen explained.

    The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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  • Katie Ginella’s Husband Matt Details Slade’s Frantic ‘911’ Text Amid Gretchen Drama, Slams Jenn & Ryan for Protecting Couple, and Shades Emily as a “Mall Cop” Lawyer, Plus Accuses RHOC Cast of “Relentless” Bullying

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    Katie Ginella‘s husband, Matt Ginella, detailed a “911” text and phone call he got from Slade Smiley during a podcast appearance last week.

    As he looked back on the fallout involving Katie’s claims about what Gretchen Rossi, 46, had or hadn’t told her about the moments that followed her “naked wasted” ordeal with Tamra Judge, 57, Matt recalled the moment he was contacted by Slade, 51, amid the Real Housewives of Orange County cast’s girls’ trip to New Orleans.

    “I get a 911 text from Slade. It gives me chills saying this right now. I was like, ‘What has happened to my wife?’” Matt shared on the August 29 episode of Don’t Let It Stu.

    Although he was initially worried that something had happened to his spouse, Matt learned after calling his co-star that Slade’s concern was in regard to a dinner date he and Katie, 41, had with Slade, Gretchen, Jennifer Pedranti, 48, and Ryan Boyajian, 49, months prior.

    “These are his exact words: ‘Katie might have just sealed her own fate … She told Kiki Monique what we told you guys the night of Maestro’s, and now it’s getting back out to the group. This is really bad. You need to call Katie, and you essentially need to have her hold the line and say it wasn’t said,’” Matt shared.

    According to Matt, Slade informed him that he was on the other line with executive producer Alex Baskin, claiming he was “pissed” about the suggestion that Gretchen had allegedly said she was roofied and hospitalized.

    “[Slade] was in like, full backpedal, and I’m like, again, this guy started [RHOC]. I don’t know what his connections … I don’t know what his relationships are with top production or whatever. I don’t know if he’s on with Alex Baskin. I just know that I know Alex Baskin is important. He’s powerful, and apparently, he’s pissed,” Matt continued.

    But after calling Katie and asking her if she’d spoken to Kiki, Katie denied it.

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    Matt also recounted what had gone down at Maestro’s during their group dinner, alleging that Slade was there only to make sure that he and Katie would join him in being “anti-Tamra.”

    “This story was told to us. We didn’t ask for it. We’re sitting there going, ‘Wow, that’s crazy. That’s some crazy sh*t,’” he revealed.

    As for why Jenn has denied Katie’s claims about what Gretchen said that night about the “naked wasted” incident, Matt accused her and Ryan of “covering and pretending” on Gretchen and Slade’s behalf because they “hate Tamra so much.”

    Matt then described how the story evolved as it was passed on.

    “A credible journalist gets told this story by Katie, apparently. Kiki said multiple times that it’s off the record, and I love hearing that now, she’s saying that she had an off-the-record conversation with Dave Quinn, who I guess took it to Tamra,” he stated. “The panic button was hit, and Slade was like, ‘Oh sh*t, that whole little embellishment I was doing for whatever reason…’”

    Moving on to the other women, Matt pointed out that Jenn and Katie “were real friends.”

    “This was a true friendship. Katie rode for Jenn, supported Jenn, believed Jenn, backed Jenn to the other women. She did everything that I think she thought Jenn would do for her, and Jenn didn’t,” he said.

    As for Emily Simpson, 49, Matt poked fun at her legal career.

    “For this mall cop of a lawyer to hire a lie detector when she knows it’s not admissible in court, the whole scene turns on a dime. It’s all a light, happy, ‘Oh, that’s not true.’ ‘Okay, that’s fine.’ But here comes Katie. Goes last. Misses all of them. ‘No one believes you.’ ‘You’re a horrible person,’” he recalled. 

    “This has been a nonstop, relentless projection and assault and bullying of grown women to a grown woman. [Shannon Beador]’s storyline? Katie. Jenn’s storyline? Katie. Gretchen’s storyline? Katie. [Gina Kirschenheiter] and Emily’s storyline? Katie,” he concluded.

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