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  • Nikki Haley Offers an Alternate Reality

    Nikki Haley Offers an Alternate Reality

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    For some Republican voters, to attend a Nikki Haley campaign rally is to dive headfirst into the warm waters of an alternate reality—a reality in which Donald J. Trump is very old news.

    Last Thursday, this comfortable refuge could be found at the Poor Boy’s Diner in Londonderry, New Hampshire, where a few dozen white retirees wedged into booths adorned with vintage license plates and travel posters suggesting a visit to sunny Waikiki. The crowd, mostly Republican and “undeclared” voters wearing sundry combinations of flannel and cable-knit, clapped along as Haley—a youthful 51-year-old—outlined her presidential priorities: securing the border, supporting veterans, promoting small business, and “removing the kick me sign from America’s back.” Haley’s voice was steady; her words were studied; and the attendees beamed from their tables as though they couldn’t believe their luck: Finally, their relieved smiles seemed to say, here was a conservative candidate who didn’t sound completely unhinged.

    The voters I met had had it up to here with the former president, they told me: the insults, the drama, the interminable parade of indictments and gag orders. They’ve been yearning for a standard-issue Republican with governing experience and foreign-policy chops, and Haley, the former accountant turned South Carolina governor turned ambassador to the United Nations fits their bill and then some. When Haley finished speaking, voters scrambled to secure a campaign button reading NH ♥ NH. Some of them waited in line for half an hour to shake her hand.

    If you haven’t checked the scoreboard lately, Haley’s support has been ticking up steadily for weeks. New polling shows her at nearly 20 percent support in New Hampshire, up more than a dozen points since August, and knocking Florida Governor Ron DeSantis out of second place. She also leads DeSantis in her home state of South Carolina. In Iowa, Haley’s support has grown to double digits, putting her in third.

    Haley is not exactly gaining on Trump. In all three states, he’s leading the pack by roughly 30 points, which is a heck of a lot of ground for any candidate to make up. But in New Hampshire, voters were hopeful—even confident—that Haley could win this thing. Maybe, some told me, with a hint of desperation in their eyes, their Trump-free alternate reality could soon be the one we all live in. “She’s normal,” Bob Garvin, a lifelong Republican who had driven up with his wife from Dartmouth, Massachusetts, told me outside the diner. With a sigh, he said, “I just want somebody normal to run for president.”

    Some of Haley’s new support comes from her strong performance in the first two GOP primary debates, where she often stood, stoic and unimpressed, as the dudes shouted over one another. When Haley did speak, she generally sounded more measured—and frankly, more relatable—than the others. In the second debate, she turned, eyes rolling, toward the cocky newcomer Vivek Ramaswamy and channeled the exasperation many watching at home felt: “Honestly, every time I hear you, I feel a little bit dumber for what you say.”

    Haley has a clear lane. She’s seeking to build a coalition of Never Trump Republicans who’d really rather not pull the lever for Biden and onetime Trump voters who now find him tiresome. She also seems to be appealing to the types of Americans the GOP needs to win in a general election: the college-educated, women, suburbanites. DeSantis, who was once expected to bring the strongest primary challenge to Trump, no longer seems to have a lane at all: Voters who love the former president don’t need DeSantis as an option, and many of the voters who hate Trump have come to see DeSantis as a charmless, watered-down version of the big man himself. “He’d be Donald Trump in a Ron DeSantis mask,” one GOP voter told me in Londonderry.

    Haley and DeSantis are surely both well aware that they’re vying for second place. The two have traded attack ads throughout the past month, and a few days ago, Haley was on the radio mocking the governor’s alleged use of heel lifts in his cowboy boots. Overall, though, the trend seems to be that, as the candidates introduce themselves to more and more Americans, DeSantis is losing fans and Haley is gaining them.

    At a town-hall event that Thursday evening in nearby Nashua, Haley channeled Stevie Nicks in a white eyelet top and flared jeans—a look that probably worked well for her audience of a few hundred more silver-haired New Hampshirites. The vibe was decidedly un-Trumpian. At one point, the audience burst into admiring applause when a scheduled speaker highlighted Haley’s past life as an accountant.

    In a disciplined, 30-minute stump speech, she laid out her conventionally conservative plans for shrinking the federal government, securing the border, and lowering taxes—but she also tossed in a few ideas that might appeal to Democrats, including boosting childhood-reading proficiency, reducing criminal-recidivism rates, and adjusting policy to support “the least of us.”

    She took questions from the crowd, and when abortion inevitably came up, Haley was ready. “I am unapologetically pro-life,” she said. “But I don’t judge anyone for being pro-choice.” As president, she elaborated, she’d restrict abortion in late pregnancy and promote “good quality” adoption.

    Haley tends to speak with such a straight face that she appears almost stern. And she begins many sentences as though she is imparting a very wise lesson: “This is what I’ll tell you.” The voters I met found this appealing. Three separate women told me that they like Haley because they see her as a “strong woman.” One of them, Carol Holman, who had driven from nearby Merrimack with her husband, had voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. But she’s ready for a change.

    “People are getting tired of hearing about Trump’s problems,” Holman told me, as she buttoned up her leopard-print coat. Holman loved Haley’s performance in the second debate, and couldn’t wait to hear from the candidate in person. “She knows how to do it; she’s not just a blowhard,” she said, citing Haley’s time as a governor. “She made up my mind tonight!”

    The unfolding war in the Middle East also seems to have prompted more voters to take a second look at Haley’s campaign, given her two years of experience at the UN. “People are nervous right now, and she acknowledged a little bit of that fear,” Katherine Bonaccorso, a retired schoolteacher from Massachusetts, told me.

    Haley sees the attacks on Ukraine and Israel “as a security issue” for America, Jeanene Cooper, who volunteers as a co-chair for Haley’s campaign in Rockingham County, New Hampshire, told me. “She believes in peace through strength.” In a television interview after the Hamas assault in southern Israel, Haley advised Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to “finish them.” Haley has long been hawkish on foreign policy; it’s one of the major differences she has with Trump and DeSantis, who tend to be more isolationist.

    The more people hear Haley, the more she’ll rise, Cooper said. It’s time, she added, for the lower-polling candidates—such as former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, and Ramaswamy—to drop out and endorse Haley. As for DeSantis, she added, he can’t fall that far and “think that somehow it’s going to come back.” (The DeSantis campaign has countered such assessments recently, saying they’re confident in the governor’s potential in Iowa—and arguing that polling at this stage in the primary season is not always predictive.)

    The third GOP primary debate, which will be held Wednesday in Miami, could give Haley a further boost. And new rules for the fourth debate in December would reportedly require candidates to have reached 6 percent in the polls, which, if their present numbers hold, would narrow the stage to three candidates: DeSantis, Haley, and Ramaswamy (assuming that Trump continues to boycott the debates).

    The path for Haley to progress requires DeSantis to fall flat. If she can knock him out of the way, Haley could come in second to Trump in the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary, and then score strongly in her home state of South Carolina, where voters know her best. Trump’s legal standing is an important variable: At least one of the former president’s criminal trials is scheduled to begin just before Super Tuesday, which could cause some of his supporters to switch candidates. If the more mainstream Republicans drop out and endorse her, that could theoretically bring her close to beating out Trump to clinch the GOP nomination.

    That’s a lot of ifs. The added national scrutiny that comes with being a primary front runner could send Haley’s star plummeting just as quickly as it rose. But the biggest problem for her and her supporters is the same conundrum that Republican candidates faced in 2020, and again in the 2022 midterm elections: The stubborn core of the GOP base wants Trump and only Trump, even if others in the party are desperate to wake up in an alternate reality.

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    Elaine Godfrey

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  • Vivek Ramaswamy Got to Introduce Himself, But the GOP Debate Showed Donald Trump’s Power

    Vivek Ramaswamy Got to Introduce Himself, But the GOP Debate Showed Donald Trump’s Power

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    So, did that change anything?

    Ron DeSantis was weird and hostile. An extremely hyper Vivek Ramaswamy, after cribbing a quip from Barack Obama in his introduction, sold himself as a truth-telling outsider. Chris Christie threw jabs at Donald Trump, who Mike Pence—bland as ever—tried his best to differentiate himself from without running afoul of the MAGA faithful. And the low-pollers, including North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, fresh off a basketball injury, tried their best to have a moment that could catapult them out of the basement. There were surprises: Nikki Haley laid the blame on Republicans, not Democrats, over spending; Burgum, the first of the field to pull out his pocket Constitution, offered an almost measured answer on abortion, while his stage-mates like DeSantis ranted about so-called “post-birth” abortion (isn’t this just…murder?); and even the Fox News audience seemed to boo Ramaswamy for calling climate change a “hoax.” There were strong barbs, including Christie comparing Ramaswamy to ChatGPT. But the question after the first debate is the same as it was heading into it: Will any of this actually matter?

    Trump—who snubbed the proceedings in favor of a sit-down with Tucker Carlson, telling the former Fox News host that it “doesn’t make sense” to indulge his lower polling competitors—entered the night with polling higher than the eight debaters combined. And while Milwaukee might have some impact on the order of candidates two through nine (as ABC News pointed out, Ramaswamy led in Google searches during the debate), it’s unclear any of these hopefuls did much to take the leader down a peg.

    Trump’s absence, in some ways, allowed for a more issue-focused evening—we got talk of tax cuts and spending, Ukraine and China and the border, without the former president steamrolling anybody, as is his preferred debate tactic. But it also gave his acolytes, like DeSantis and Ramaswamy, most notably, room to do the steamrolling instead. “We’re not school children,” DeSantis said after hosts Brett Baier and Martha MacCallum asked for a show of hands of who, among the eight candidates, believe in climate change.

    Some of them sure did act like it sometimes, though. Ramaswamy cast himself as the leader of a “cold cultural civil war” and seemed the distillation of the dangerous extremism of the Trump-era GOP. DeSantis suggested he would order a military invasion in Mexico “on day one” of his presidency. And Tim Scott, a non-factor all night, kept trying to stand between the playground bullies by saying, Can’t we all just get along?

    On one matter, most did: “If former President Trump is legally convicted, would you continue to endorse him as your party’s candidate?”

    All but Asa Hutchinson, the former Arkansas governor, and Christie, the most viable of the anti-Trump candidates, said yes. That includes Pence, who Trump supporters wanted to hang on January 6 for declining to help him overturn his loss to Joe Biden, and DeSantis, who seemed to look around to see what his fellow rivals would do before raising his hand.

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    Eric Lutz

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  • “Covering the Junior Varsity”: Political Reporters Prepare for a Trump-Less GOP Debate

    “Covering the Junior Varsity”: Political Reporters Prepare for a Trump-Less GOP Debate

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    “It feels sort of surreal.” That’s how one political reporter sized up this week’s split screen media moment, with second- and third-tier 2024 Republican candidates taking the stage in Milwaukee as party front-runner Donald Trump is expected to surrender to 2020-election-related charges in Atlanta. The reporter continued: “If you were to have said to me six months ago, he’s gonna be indicted by two different states and twice by the federal government, and his numbers are gonna go up, and he’ll be saying, Keep indicting me, my numbers are gonna go up—I’m not sure I would have believed that.”

    Indeed, despite facing 91 charges across four separate criminal cases, the former president has 62% of the GOP primary vote, according to a CBS News poll released Sunday. Florida governor Ron DeSantis is trailing at 16%—the only other Republican presidential candidate whom the poll puts in the double digits. “We’re just in this really foggy period of time. Trump is such a unique and singular figure, where all of these negatives are so built into his brand and shocking things don’t seem to really affect him that much,” said a second political reporter. “We’re seeing a lot of signs the electorate doesn’t give a shit overall. All of this noise, and the signal hasn’t really changed.”

    Trump has cited his whopping lead in his decision to skip the first primary debate, hosted by Fox News, and perhaps the rest. He’ll surely dominate headlines regardless this week, as he is expected to turn himself in at a Fulton County jail in Georgia—and reportedly plans to counterprogram the debate through a pretaped interview with former top Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who was taken off the air earlier this year.

    “The most important news story this week, affecting the presidential election, is not going to be on that debate stage,” a third political reporter said, referring to the Georgia charges. But there’s still reason to pay attention to Milwaukee, they added. “I must admit that I am really excited to go, because despite this concept [that the debate doesn’t matter if Trump doesn’t show], the fact of the matter is that half the party, polling shows, doesn’t want Trump.” The debate presents an opportunity for the rest of the qualified contenders—DeSantis, Chris Christie, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy, Doug Burgum, and Mike Pence, as of this writing—to distinguish themselves, but they’ll likely do so based on how they handle questions about the former president.

    Fox News’ Martha MacCallum, who is co-moderating with Bret Baier, recently told me that it will “absolutely be incumbent” upon the candidates to address Trump’s criminal charges, acknowledging that it could be a “minefield” for them. “He’s completely blotting out the sun,” a fourth political reporter said of Trump. “I see it as a continuation of what’s gone on during this campaign and also what’s gone on in the last eight years,” they said of the dynamic. “It’s made it very hard for any of these other candidates to get any real attention. Does anyone know what Nikki Haley said yesterday?”

    “It’s gonna be a debate to see who can be number two,” the second political reporter said, likening Christie—the most vocal Trump critic of the bunch—to the scorpion in the “Scorpion and the Frog” fable. “If Donald Trump is not there, then Ron DeSantis is getting stung. And what better thing than to watch your two enemies destroy each other?” This reporter wasn’t very optimistic about the viewing experience. “Expectations are very low that it’s gonna be that interesting. This is covering, like, the junior varsity,” they said.

    Some I spoke to are most interested to see who, aside from Christie, will be willing to take the gloves off on Trump. “It’s sort of a bizarre situation where he’s ahead of them by 40 points and they won’t take him on most of the time—in fact, most of the time they defend him,” said the first political reporter. “The whole thing has been, throughout his presidency, these folks who view themselves as smart Republicans saying he’s gonna fade, or go away on his own, or the justice system will take care of it, or voters will change their mind. Clearly, eight years in, sitting back and hoping someone else does something about it has not worked for Republicans who want to take him on.”

    Unprecedented is a word that has been thrown around often since 2016 to describe Trump and his impact on national politics. Some journalists feel it has never been more fitting than it is now. “It’s really uncharted territory for American political reporters,” as one put it, especially given those on the trail who are not necessarily familiar with the intricacies of the federal and state criminal law they’re now reporting on and talking to voters about. “It’s become a story where the people who cover the Justice Department and FBI are as much a part of the 2024 story as political reporters,” the reporter said. “They’re just as essential.”

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    Charlotte Klein

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  • Donald Trump Supporters Urge Him to Ditch GOP Debate

    Donald Trump Supporters Urge Him to Ditch GOP Debate

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    As he faces pressure from fellow candidates and party leaders to commit to joining the first Republican primary debate in August, current frontrunner Donald Trump put the question to his audience at an Erie, Pennsylvania rally Saturday night. The response: a chorus of “No’s.”

    “Am I going to stand up there by guys with zero, one, two, three percent, maybe four, and have them ask me hostile questions?” Trump asked.

    The first debate is scheduled to take place on August 23 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. According to the rules set out by the Republican National Committee, candidates must demonstrate over 40,000 unique donors with at least 200 donors in 20 unique states, in addition to polling over 1% in three qualifying national polls (or two national and one early nominating state poll) to make the stage. As of last week, seven Republicans, including Trump, had cleared the hurdles.

    For the past several months, Trump has repeatedly suggested that he’ll skip the debate, arguing that his gargantuan lead over the competition gives him no reason to show up. FiveThirtyEight’s polling average currently has Trump leading Ron DeSantis by nearly 40 points, with only Desantis and Vivek Ramaswamy notching above five points.

    Trump told the crowd he knew they’d want him to join the state “for entertainment’s sake.” “Now, put on your political cap, right,” he said. “We have to save our country. We have to win.”

    In recent weeks, Trump has faced growing pressure from his competitors and other party leaders to join the debate stage. DeSantis, whose polling has slid of late, has called on Trump to “show up and make his case and answer questions like the rest of us.” Earlier this month, RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel told Fox News that it would be a “mistake” for Trump to miss the debates. Along with longtime Trump advisor David Bossie, McDaniel met with Trump at his Bedminster, New Jersey residence last Monday to encourage him to join.

    A number of Fox News hosts, including Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade, have also begun making on-air pleas, The Washington Post reported last week. “If I were you, I’d keep that center podium warm,” former Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway told Fox News host Martha MacCallum on Monday. Along with Bret Baier, McCallum will co-host the Milwaukee debate. “I think President Trump will keep everyone in suspense,” Conway said.

    “We’ll see what happens,” Trump said Saturday. “I haven’t made a commitment one way or the other.”

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    Jack McCordick

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