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  • Bottoms Still Can’t Top But I’m A Cheerleader When It Comes to Queer Satire

    Bottoms Still Can’t Top But I’m A Cheerleader When It Comes to Queer Satire

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    Being that the queer film canon remains shockingly scant after all this time, it goes without saying that the even more hyper-specific genre of satirical queer film is limited, in essence, to 1999’s But I’m A Cheerleader. Twenty-four years later, things haven’t gotten much more “ribald” or “perverse,” if we’re to go by what Bottoms is offering. Which is something to the effect of Fight Club meets Mean Girls with a dash of Heathers (that’s how the pitch would go, presumably). Compared to the latter movie solely because it, too, is set in high school and has a snarky, over-the-top (read: representative of reality, yet we must call it “over the top” to delude ourselves into thinking reality isn’t that grim) perspective. A.k.a. what people bill as a satire. This, of course, means caricatures of stereotypes. A stereotype, obviously, already being something of a caricature without needing to further amplify it. Unless it’s to make a point about some larger truth. Which Bottoms, in the end, fails to do.  

    In contrast, But I’m A Cheerleader makes its point from the very outset of the movie, with a title sequence that plays April March’s “Chick Habit” (long before Quentin Tarantino ever decided to use it) as quintessentially hot cheerleaders jump up and down in a manner befitting the male gaze. Except that, this time, it’s being seen through the female gaze of Jamie Babbit’s lens. And the images of those cheerleaders bobbing up and down will come back moments later, when Megan Bloomfield (Natasha Lyonne) needs to imagine them in order to seem even vaguely interested in the tongue-thrashing kisses of her football player boyfriend, Jared (Brandt Wille). When she finally makes it home for dinner, the plates prepared on the table tellingly all have meat on them, except for one, an empty space next to the peas and mashed potatoes where Megan’s mom will plop down her “vegetarian option.” Her father then engages in saying a very pointed prayer about giving people the strength to accept their “natural” roles in life. Feeling exposed by that statement, Megan does her best to sleep the lie of her life off in her room that night as a poster of Melissa Etheridge watches over her. 

    And so, within the first five minutes, But I’m A Cheerleader we’re given far more satire through visual cues than what we get at the beginning of Bottoms, directed by Emma Seligman, who co-wrote the script with her Shiva Baby star, Rachel Sennott. Going from a college-age girl to a high school girl for this role. But that can all be viewed as part of the satire (like Greta Gerwig casting a “too old” Ryan Gosling for the part of Ken, citing inspiration from Grease’s casting choices for high school students). Funnily enough, PJ (Sennott) seems to throw shade at that switch by saying, “We’re not gonna be sexy little high schoolers forever. Soon we’re gonna be old hags in college.” This said to her lifelong best friend, Josie (Ayo Edebiri, twenty-seven to Sennott’s twenty-eight), who is far less confident about being “hot” enough (according to PJ) to talk to the girls they’ve been crushing on for years. For Josie, that slow-burn pining is for a cheerleader (because, yes, the But I’m A Cheerleader connection) named Isabel (Hannah Rose Liu, no relation to Lucy, though still a nepo baby by way of being daughter to the founders of The Knot). For PJ, her more sexually-charged, less “in love” attraction is to another cheerleader named, what else, Brittany (Kaia Gerber, nepo baby nu​​méro deux). 

    Rather than commencing with anything visually, the first few minutes are pure dialogue, starting with PJ saying, “Tonight is the fucking night, okay? We’ve looked like shit for years, and we are developing.” Their back and forth continues on the way to the school carnival PJ is forcing them to go to, the one that kicks off the school year, but, more to the point, serves as a way to glorify the football team through quaint notions of “school spirit.” These quaint notions are also present for a reason in But I’m A Cheerleader, thanks to Megan’s status as, duh, a cheerleader. As though hiding behind that ultimate emblem of “all-American-ness” will throw people off the scent of her true identity. Which should mark at least one notable change between 1999 and 2023: theoretically greater acceptance of queer people in high schools (just not Floridian ones). Which is why, when Josie says, “This school has such a gay problem,” PJ replies, “Okay, no. No one hates us for being gay. Everyone hates us for being gay, untalented and ugly.” In other words, being gay has never been “chicer,” common even, if you know how to wield it to your advantage. 

    And yet, since PJ and Josie haven’t been able to make their gayness “work” for them, they decide to capitalize on a fortuitous coalescing of events: 1) the assumption that they went to juvenile hall over the summer after PJ jokingly confirms a fellow reject’s guess about why Josie has a broken arm, 2) Isabel running away from Jeff in the middle of the carnival and seeking refuge in Josie’s car before the latter slowly starts the car and drives toward him, just barely grazing his knee, 3) Jeff milking this for all its worth (even though nothing happened) by showing up to school the next day on crutches and 4) the announcement that a football player from the Vikings’ rival team, the Huntington Golden Ferrets, attacked a girl to quench some of their bloodlust. All factors conspiring to make PJ’s idea to start a fight club in order to attract their scared fellow female students and therefore possibly lose their virginity to one of them (being a satire, whether or not any of these girls are actually lesbians seems to hold no importance for PJ and Josie—especially PJ, who perhaps rightfully assumes that everyone is gay). Yes, this is the entire far-fetched crux of the movie. Nonetheless, as it said, stranger things have happened. 

    And since “weird shit” is more accepted by the mainstream than it was in 1999, it bears noting that Lionsgate Films, known at that time for distributing more “indie” fare instead of low-budget horror or high-grossing franchise movies (e.g., Twilight and The Hunger Games), was the company willing to pick up But I’m A Cheerleader. In the present, things seem to have gotten slightly friendlier toward queers in that Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (more specifically, its revived Orion Pictures imprint) chose to distribute Bottoms. Then again, that studio has been queer-friendly since at least the days of Some Like It Hot. Thus, what Bottoms posits about being a lesbian in high school in the twenty-first century is that it’s so normalized now that homo girls are perhaps saddled with the worse fate of actually having to make themselves interesting and cool beyond “just” their sexuality.

    Enter the fight club, sponsored by PJ and Josie’s horrendously uneducated English (?) teacher, Mr. G (Marshawn Lynch, a former football running back himself). Who doesn’t show up until after the first meeting, where PJ takes the inaugural punch from Josie to prove they’re “legit.” Knocked to the ground, she rises up with a bloody face and an expression that mimics the sentiment behind, “One time she punched me. It was awesome.” It doesn’t take long for word about the club to travel around, and, just as PJ planned, Isabel and Brittany start to show up. Before they know it, the bonds of sisterhood are being forged—complete with “sharing trauma” time as they all sit in a circle and express themselves emotionally after already doing so physically. 

    In But I’m A Cheerleader, that form of sharing comes in the “re-orientation” meetings, the first of which prompts Megan to finally admit she’s a lesbian. After all, the film is divided into the five steps of the “recovery” program at True Directions, the first being: “Admitting You’re A Homosexual.” Megan doesn’t feel all that great after the admission, looked upon by Graham Eaton (Clea DuVall), another lesbian she shares a room with, as delusional for thinking that she can be “fixed” now that she knows. For this isn’t Graham’s first time at the rodeo, having been harshly judged by her family for years, and currently threatened with being disowned and disinherited (the ultimate power play). Hence, the jadedness…and the freedom with which she eats sushi (done for the sake of the line: “She’s just upset because the fish on her plate is the only kind she can eat”). 

    Additionally, the hyper-saturated color palette and overall “are we in the 1950s?” vibe of the movie is part of its genius. And what amplifies its ability to expose heteronormativity for its absurdity (particularly during the scenes of “Step 2: Rediscovering Your Gender Identity”). Bottoms, instead, already too easily benefits from the Gen Z assumption that being gay is “no big.” Never seeming to stop and look back at what all the homos who came before had to endure for them to be in this place of “levity.” Which is why the idea that one could “make light” of homophobia in the late 90s is automatically more powerful than any satirical slant Bottoms could ever hope to offer. With existing further in the pop culture timeline so often being a bane rather than a boon, at least where innovation is concerned. 

    And it seems like Seligman knows, on some level, that Brian Wayne Peterson’s script is the standard for satirizing what it means to be queer in a world “built for” the straights. Ergo, a subtle nod to But I’m A Cheerleader that comes in the form of a diner called But I’m A Diner, where Josie goes on her first “date” with Isabel. Who is, again, a cheerleader. One who eventually shows us that she swings her pom-poms both ways. Indeed, in the same way that But I’m A Cheerleader ends with Megan making a grand gesture to Graham, so, too, does Bottoms end with Josie (and PJ) engaging in the grand gesture of beating up the Huntington football team as a way say they’re sorry for lying about going to juvie and starting a fight club solely for the hope of getting some snatch (which, of course, makes them no better than men). And while this might be more elaborate than Megan’s simple cheer at Graham’s “I’m Straight Now” graduation ceremony, it doesn’t change the fact that But I’m A Cheerleader remains the crème de la crème of queer satire, right down to RuPaul as an “ex-gay”/True Directions employee wearing a “Straight Is Great” t-shirt.  

    This, in part, is because But I’m A Cheerleader had (and has) the advantage of being of its time. Therefore, coming across as more avant-garde and powerful than Bottoms could ever hope to. By the same token, were Bottoms not released in the present, it wouldn’t have enjoyed the undeniable value of queer ally Charli XCX scoring the entire soundtrack, in addition to adding some of her own already-in-existence tracks, like “party 4 u” from How I’m Feeling Now. That said, the But I’m A Cheerleader Soundtrack is nothing to balk at, featuring such dance floor anthems as Saint Etienne’s “We’re in the City” and Miisa’s “All or Nothing.” And so, while Bottoms is a welcome addition to the lacking and challenging genre of gay and lesbian satire, it still can’t quite hold a candle to the masterwork of the category. Coming in as a close tie with 2004’s Saved!, itself riffing on the premise of But I’m A Cheerleader via the gay boyfriend who’s also sent to a “conversion therapy” camp plotline. Whoever releases the next effort, however, will now have to at least top Bottoms.

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  • “Bottoms” Review: Girl Failures Are the New It Girls

    “Bottoms” Review: Girl Failures Are the New It Girls

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    We started the year blessed: by the “girl failures” tweet. In a viral post on the app formerly known as Twitter, user @ricshatty said: “enough girlbosses i need girlfailures. just an absolute loser of a female character. more women who suck!!!!!”

    This summer, movies have delivered exactly what we asked for.


    Joyride offered us an eclectic cast of messy, hilarious, and diverse female characters on the craziest road trip of all time. Barbie, the movie of the summer, gave us existential crises, and depression Barbies, and made a tired mom the most badass hero of the summer. And now, taking this new trope to the extreme is Bottoms, the lesbian high school fight club movie you didn’t know was missing from the canon.

    After a limited release on August 25th in 10 theatres around the country, the comedic masterpiece has already received rave reviews, a certified fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and the fourth-highest per-theatre opening of the year. The little girl fight club comedy that could.

    What is Bottoms about?

    Helmed by the hall-of-fame comedic duo of Rachel Sennott and Ayo Edebiri, directed by Emma Seligman of Shiva Baby, and anchored in no sense of reality, Bottoms lets women be awful — and punch each other in the face.

    The premise is outrageous enough to give you insight into the unhinged space this film occupies in the zeitgeist. Two lesbian high school outcasts (Sennott, Edebiri) start a fight club under the guise of empowering women with self-defense while really their goal is the same as other high school movie protagonists before them: finally have sex. Preferably with the hot, popular cheerleaders (played by Havana Rose Liu and Kaia Gerber).

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    What ensues in the 88-minute runtime of the film, you have to see to believe. It’s a laugh-out-loud comedy that had the cinema in stitches. And there’s enough blood and violence to rival a Marvel movie.

    Is Bottoms funny? So funny you’ll need stitches.

    With a cast that fully buys into the absurd caricature of high school — including ex-football player Marshawn Lynch and Nicholas Galitzine, fresh off his victory lap for Red, White & Royal Blue — the commentary is self-aware but never pretentious, and the chemistry is unmatched.

    Every single detail is off-the-charts funny. Don’t blink, or you’ll miss something else to laugh at. The way the football players (who are the epitome of Mojo Dojo Casa House era Kens) wear their full game-day attire at literally every waking moment. The campy posters lining the hallways. The “Creation of Adam” style portrait of Jeff (Galitzine) painted like a mural in the cafeteria. It’s an immersive experience in absurdity.

    Of course, the stand-out performances belong to our unlikely heroes, Sennott and Edebiri. Like the loser protagonists before them — Jonah Hill and Michael Cera in Superbad, Beanie Feldstein and Kate Dever in Booksmart — their comic timing is hilarious, their quips and banter are irresistible, and you want to watch them forever.

    What makes a movie like this work is that even if you don’t believe anything else in its world, you believe the characters you’re supposed to be rooting for. And, although in-articulate and insane, I believed in these fight club girls. I was rooting for these fight club girls, even (especially?) when they were awful.

    And lord, could they be awful. From Sennott’s Tyler Durden-like intensity to Josie’s outlandish tale-telling, plus their combined and fruitless attempts at cringe-inducing flirting, these characters are the girlfailures we asked for. The losers we want to root for. The types of characters we both see ourselves in and are repulsed by.

    More of this, please. Until we get another duo as charmingly chaotic as this one, I’ll be waiting for Bottoms to be released nationwide on September 1st.

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  • Video: ‘Bottoms’ | Anatomy of a Scene

    Video: ‘Bottoms’ | Anatomy of a Scene

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    Hi, my name is Emma Seligman. And I’m the director of ‘Bottoms.’ [MUSIC PLAYING] So in this scene, PJ, who is played by Rachel Sennott, and Josie, who is played by Ayo Edebiri, are about to walk into their first Fight Club meeting. And they’ve spent their time trying to convince hot girls to join the club. But they’re about to discover that the attendees of the meeting are not who they expected. “I love David Fincher.” “Oh my god.” “Well, see.” “I guess Sylvie’s cute if she lost her braces and stopped huffing paint.” “She’ll never stop huffing paint.” So for this scene, it felt important to me to really set up the stakes of what these girls are setting out to do in that they have no idea what they’re doing. So I wanted them to feel the anxiety of all these girls who’ve come expecting to learn self defense looking at them for advice and tips when they made up that they know how to fight. “We’re going to start with dropkicks, tackling, a little bit of knife play, then punch bucket, which is when we throw you in a bucket and we punch you until you bleed.” “Before that, perhaps stretches, icebreakers, and trust falls.” What was written into the script here was that PJ is reminding the girls that they went to juvie, which is a lie and a rumor that’s been started at school. And she’s using the fact that these girls think that they went to juvie to her advantage. And they’re making up stories. And so here she’s asking Josie to pitch in and tell a story of her own from juvie. “Juvie was insane. Once a girl tried to kill me with rat poison, so I took her outside and I punched her ‘til she died.” Josie isn’t as good at lying. And so she makes up this story that kind of goes out of control where she killed a girl. Rachel and Ayo are quite amazing improvisers and had fun making up different versions of what that was, as well as improvising the way that they egg each other on. Rachel certainly improvised how she convinces Josie to throw the punch. “What’s the problem?” “There’s no problem, I’m just — I’m just not going to do it.” “Come on, they want to see the punch.” “They don’t want to see it.” “They want to see — look at them. (WHISPERING) They don’t want to.” “They want to see the punch.” “Who am I going to punch?” “Punch me. Just punch me.” “Punch you?” “Yeah, come on.” “I can punch you?” “Yeah, I know how to take a punch. Something people would always say, ‘PJ knows how to take a punch.’ Come on up. Oh. Ah.” It took quite a few tries to land selling this punch. Getting the angle right, and getting the fist appropriately matching where it needed to go to block Rachel’s nose was quite challenging for some reason.

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  • Kaia Gerber Has Main Character Energy

    Kaia Gerber Has Main Character Energy

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    Cass Bird

    Kaia Gerber swears she’s a small-town girl at heart. Sure, the town happens to be Malibu, the fertile ground that also brought us the Hadids. “When I say it’s a small town, people laugh,” Gerber says, “but it really did feel like that. Same kids from preschool till you graduate. So it really expanded my world by an infinite amount.”

    “It,” if you somehow don’t know by now, is modeling, which served as a kind of turbo exchange program for Gerber, rocketing her onto runways in all the major fashion capitals. It’s a far cry from her reality today, which is a pure portrait of domestic bliss. Ensconced in an oversize beige sweater, a dog by her side, she’s cocooned in her L.A. living room. Her supermodel mother, Cindy Crawford, is downstairs watching TV. Imagine the Cleavers, if they all happened to be stunningly beautiful.

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    I tell her I interviewed Crawford years ago at a restaurant and still think about the collective aftershock when she walked in. “Yeah, the sea parts,” Gerber says knowingly. “Especially when I started modeling, everyone would be like, ‘Oh my God, your mom is so iconic,’ and I’d be like, ‘She’s my mom.’ ”

    Despite their strong resemblance, Gerber’s aura feels a little quieter, more like a peaceful ripple. Perhaps that’s because lately, she’s been taking it easy—exploring new sides of herself, with acting roles in two hotly anticipated projects, a book club, and a whole lot of self-reflection. Thomas Wolfe titled a novel after the idea that you can’t go home again, but Gerber seems to be proving that wrong—returning both in the geographic sense, and to herself. She tells me that when she first came into the crosshairs of model-off-duty style, “I put a lot of effort into it. Then I realized I want to be comfortable. If you’ve seen me anytime in the last two years, I’m most likely wearing sweatpants, because my priority is just somewhere else now.” You get the feeling she’s not just talking about fashion: “I’ve gone back to who I am at my core.”

    ELLE You grew up modeling. What was that like?

    KAIA GERBER I’m only 21, and I feel like I’ve lived a whole life already. Having the opportunity to travel taught me so much from such a young age. I got this really amazing education. I have this catalog of images that has recorded my growing up. You’re growing, and you’re changing: your body, what you like, your taste. Being surrounded by so many creatives shaped my taste. I’m very much an observer, and I retain a lot.

    ELLE There’s this sense of, “Models are all out to get each other. People are tripping each other on the catwalk,” because that’s what you see in pop culture, but it seems like you have a lot of friends in that world.

    KG I fell into the trap of believing that. Especially at that time, I was really shy. I kept to myself, and I was nervous. You’re coming from high school girls who are so scary, and so I assumed that that would be the culture. I got lucky meeting incredible people from all over the world who took me under their wing. I felt so much comfort in having this family away from my own family.

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    ELLE Was there advice your mom gave you starting out that stuck with you?

    KG Be on time. Take the time to learn people’s names, and be nice to everyone. If you’re not grateful and happy to be there, there’s someone who would be. Even when I was really tired, or wanted to go home, or felt lonely, I would remind myself how lucky I was. Another thing she told me is, “I wish I had written more down,” because you think you’re going to remember these amazing moments forever, and one day, it’s hard to even know what shoot that was, where it happened, and when. And so I wrote it down; I journaled.

    ELLE You’re a face of Celine. What has it been like working with [Celine artistic director] Hedi Slimane?

    KG I’ve been aware of him for so long. When I was in high school and he was at Saint Laurent, he would hang out around Malibu and street-cast people from my school. Getting to work with him has been a dream. He’s everything that you’d hope he would be, but oftentimes people aren’t. He takes the time to get to know you. He has a way of turning you into the best version of yourself.

    For so long, I felt like as a model, I was playing these different characters, which was really cool, and I still like doing that. But I think now, because I get to do that in acting and that’s my primary focus, I appreciate when I feel seen by someone as me, the person. I wasn’t ready for that when I was first modeling, because I didn’t feel fully formed. Now I feel more myself.

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    ELLE What’s it been like letting your personality shine through more?

    KG I mean, it’s scary. People were like, “How do you deal with rejection in modeling?” and I was like, “Honestly, you don’t take it personally,” because it’s so subjective, and they weren’t rejecting anything about me as a person. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt at times, but it was easier to take. It can be scary to show yourself, because it opens you up for criticism and for people to not agree with you and not like you, but I think I just came into myself more. I was like, “No, I do have a point of view, and I have things to say.” You accept that not everyone is going to agree with that, but I don’t need that anymore.

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    ELLE How has your personal style evolved since you entered the public eye?

    KG I remember the first time being like, “Oh, people care what I’m wearing.” That wasn’t how I felt growing up. In Malibu, people didn’t wear shoes to school.

    ELLE And now there are Instagram accounts that chronicle everything you’re wearing.

    KG And I was like, “What?” My job is a job where you go and change out of your clothes. So I’m like, “Why do I have to put on jeans to take them off again?”

    “I’m such a comedy nerd…When you see me looking angry on a runway, you wouldn’t assume there’s much of a sense of humor in there.”

    ELLE You shot a movie, Bottoms, directed by Emma Seligman and costarring Rachel Sennott and Ayo Edebiri.

    KG I was a fan of Emma because I saw Shiva Baby, and I was like, “No one has ever done anything like this. It’s so funny, and sad, and real, and touching.” She has such a strong point of view, and I just, immediately, was like, “What else is she going to do?” Same with Rachel. I just thought she was so good in that, and funny, and real. I’ve always loved her stand-up. Same with Ayo. I was a fan of her stand-up. I’m such a comedy nerd.

    ELLE That’s not something people necessarily would associate with you.

    KG I go to comedy clubs all the time. It’s my favorite thing to do. I was intimidated getting to work with Rachel and Ayo, but they were so welcoming. I feel so honored that I got to be a part of that movie because I think it’s really special. I think it’s going to shock people in a good way.

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    ELLE You mentioned letting people see more of the real you. Do you think this is going to change the way that people see you?

    KG I think so. When you see me looking angry on a runway, you wouldn’t assume there’s much of a sense of humor in there. My character is nothing like me as a person at all, but I do think people will respond well to the jokes that are being made. It’s very of its time and very meta.

    I think also a lot of queer stories and films can be really sad, and a lot of the [real-life] stories unfortunately are really sad. But to bring light to a situation and be able to find humor in it, that’s why I love comedy. It helps me laugh about things that sometimes are really difficult and hard to laugh at. While it’s dealing with heavy topics, it also has a humor about it.

    ELLE The concept is “lesbian Fight Club.”

    KG We’re throwing punches. We got to do stunt training, which was very cool. I think people are like, “Oh, cute. A little girly fight club.” No, it’s a real fight club.

    “My personal life and my mental health are not something I’m willing to sacrifice for my job ever again.”

    ELLE You also have an upcoming Apple TV+ series, Mrs. American Pie, with Laura Dern and Kristen Wiig. And Carol Burnett makes an appearance.

    KG I have no idea what I’m doing there. It’s ridiculous. Carol Burnett made me understand comedy in such a different way. I never would’ve dreamed that I’d get to work with her. I still can’t believe it happened.

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    ELLE Is there a literary heroine you’d want to play onscreen?

    KG Patti Smith, with Just Kids, fully changed my life. And Joan Didion. I’ve read everything she’s ever written. I watched her documentary a million times. She has this quote that really resonated with me, about wanting to know where the pain is. I found that—not running away from your feelings—through her.

    ELLE You started a book club on Instagram Live during the pandemic.

    KG When people come up to me and tell me that they follow my book club, it’s the highest compliment. I didn’t think people were going to respond the way that they have. People are like, “You got me into reading again,” and I’m like, “If I can give the world one gift, that could be it.” It’s on hiatus, but definitely not done.

    ELLE Would you ever want to write a memoir?

    KG Yeah. I have collections of different essays and things that I’ve written. They’re not super narrative-based and mostly about feelings, but I was looking through them the other day, and I was just like, “I don’t know what I want to do with these, but I’m just grateful that I have them.” I would love to do a column or something one day to just share my brain, but it also can be quite intimidating because I know how tough the literary world is, and I’m scared of it.

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    Cass Bird

    ELLE I’m curious about your thoughts on books as accessories. There was an interesting article in T: The New York Times Style Magazine about a book stylist for celebrities.

    KG Oh, this is not a thing. This is not a thing.

    ELLE Oh, it’s a thing.

    KG It’s like a stylist, but for books? They’re not necessarily reading them, is that correct?

    ELLE They are carrying them. They can read them. It helps get the author’s name out there, but it’s also a weird thing to see it as this consumer product.

    KG Getting people to read, no matter how you do it, is very cool. But how can you promote something that you don’t fully understand? I would never tell people to read a book that I’ve never read. I’ve had people be like, “Do you really read the books you carry?” I was like, “Would I be carrying a book that I haven’t read?” I always have a book, because in the job that I’m in, you wait around a lot. I cannot be on my phone. Social media makes me anxious when I spend a lot of time on it, so that’s why I escape into books.

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    Cass Bird

    ELLE You were at home with family during COVID. Did that period of slowing down cause you to reflect more?

    KG Honestly, it came at a time when I really needed it, and it was a really difficult time in the world, but I really had reached a point where I just felt like I was falling out of love with it, and I didn’t know that you could ask for a break. I was forced to stop, and I realized how badly I needed one. When you’re being told what to do every day, you don’t have time to sit and reflect. But I had gone through so many changes and had so many massive things happen to me over the years that I was modeling. I had four or five years of processing to do. I felt so lucky that I got to be with my family because I’d spent so much time away from them, and I realized I had so much guilt about missing birthdays and things. I had been traveling since I was a teenager, and so I got to develop an adult relationship with my family.

    ELLE Now that you’re back in the world, and you’re on these sets, how are you protecting your mental health?

    KG I developed so much deeper relationships in my life, and also a connection to myself. When you’re forced to sit with yourself, all of a sudden, you’re aware of all the stuff you haven’t dealt with. There wasn’t communication happening between me and myself, and I felt out of body sometimes. Once I developed that, I was like, “This isn’t something I want to give up.” My personal life and my mental health are not something I’m willing to sacrifice for my job ever again. Right now, I’m getting to work at home, which is a beautiful thing, and not traveling all the time. I come home, and I’m with my dog. I have friends, and I’m cooking dinner. I see my therapist, and I see my family.

    a white brunette woman on the beach in a black bikini and cap

    Bikini top, $670, cap, $850, Celine by Hedi Slimane. Brief, Wolford, $110.

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    ELLE In modeling and also in the celebrity world in general, there’s a lot of conversation lately about people having an easier time getting into the industry because of a family member. Do people sometimes make assumptions about how you got here?

    KG I won’t deny the privilege that I have. Even if it’s just the fact that I have a really great source of information and someone to give me great advice, that alone I feel very fortunate for. My mom always joked, “If I could call and book a Chanel campaign, it would be for me and not you.” But I also have met amazing people through my mom whom I now get to work with.

    With acting, it’s so different. No artist is going to sacrifice their vision for someone’s kid. That just isn’t how art is made, and what I’m interested in is art. Also, no one wants to work with someone who’s annoying, and not easy to work with, and not kind. Yes, nepotism is prevalent, but I think if it actually was what people make it out to be, we’d see even more of it.

    ELLE You’ve posted about the overturn of Roe v. Wade, and you attended Black Lives Matter protests in 2020. How do you decide what to speak up about, and what you want to share?

    KG What I’ve learned is, the most important thing is to understand it. Do your research; know what you’re speaking out about. Don’t just repost, because the spread of misinformation is becoming a huge problem and can do more harm than good. I think for a long time, people were afraid to speak out about things because people weren’t going to react well, but silence speaks so loudly now.

    When I see people with a platform not using it the way that they could, it makes me upset. I don’t expect everyone to have the same opinions about things, but I think that there’s so much good that can be done with this platform. So many people spend so much time complaining about fame. But you can also do something so incredible with it. I’ve seen firsthand that actually, you can make a difference. You can change people’s lives, and to not take that opportunity would be silly and make none of it worth it for me.

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    Kaia Gerber wears a dress from Celine by Hedi Slimane. For Gerber’s look, try Embody Volumizing Foam, Complete Instant Recovery Serum, and Complete Air Dry Cream. All, JVN.

    Cass Bird

    HAIR BY TEDDY CHARLES; MAKEUP BY FRANK B AT HOME AGENCY; PRODUCED BY LOLA PRODUCTION.

    This article appears in the February 2023 issue of ELLE.

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