The Abyssal Woods from Elden Ring’s DLC, Shadow of the Erdtree, is a land of horrors and madness. Frenzied Flame followers inhabit the woods and nightmarish creatures skulk about. It can be quite tricky to reach as you’ll need to do a bit of exploration, but should you find its entrance, you’ll be warned to turn back whence you came.
Should you heed their warnings and retreat? Or should you continue on face the madness? Read on to find out how to get to the Abyssal Woods in Elden Ring.
How to get to the Abyssal Woods in Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree
To find the Abyssal Woods, you’ll first need to reach the Ruins of Unte, which is hidden behind an illusionary wall in the Shadow Keep.
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Starting from the Storehouse, First Floor Site of Grace, head down the elevator behind you, which will lead you back towards the main gate of the Shadow Keep.
Defeat or run past the Fire Knight, and turn to the left towards the golden boats. On the left side of the path, you’ll find a ladder leading down to a lower level of the Shadow Keep. Climb down the ladder and walk into the waterfall to reveal a hidden space.
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Go down the ladder ahead of you and follow the path to find a room with the “Domain of Dragons” painting. On the southwestern wall, you’ll spot two torches and a seemingly ordinary wall between them. Hit the space between the two torches to reveal an illusionary wall.
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Follow the path to find a stone coffin that will take you to the Castle Watering Hole Site of Grace.
From the Castle Watering Hole Site of Grace, head southeast to find a pathway along the rockface, which has the Recluses’ River Upstream Site of Grace. Follow the path and jump over the gaps until you can cross over to the path on your right.
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Continue along the path and drop off the southern end to find the Recluses’ River Downstream Site of Grace. Look over the eastern edge of the cliff to find gravestones that lead to the bottom of the waterfall. Hop your way to the bottom and head southeast to find another set of gravestones at the edge of the cliff.
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Make your way to the bottom of the cliff and cut through the woods to the east to find the entrance to the Darklight Catacombs. Progress through the Darklight Catacombs and defeat Jori, Elder Inquisitor to make it to the Abyssal Woods.
At first, Thiollier is just a vendor for poison-related items, but his full story — along with St. Trina’s — will take the rest of your time in the Shadow Realm to play out.
Our Elden Ring DLC guide will walk you through where to find Thiollier and St. Trina, and all the steps you’ll need to take to complete their questline.
Thiollier and St. Trina locations
You’ll meet Thiollier first near the Pillar Path Cross Site of Grace in Gravesite Plain. You can reach him there before you take on Castle Ensis.
Later, after you enter Shadow Keep, you’ll be able to find St. Trina in the Cerulean Coast at the Garden of Deep Purple Site of Grace, and Thiollier will move to be with her there.
Thiollier first meeting in Graveyard Plain
There’s not really a rush to go find Thiollier at his initial location by Pillar Path Cross Site of Grace, but, since his questline overlaps with Moore’s, it’s probably best to get that initial meeting out of the way early before things get complicated. You can get there before tackling Castle Ensis by crossing Ellac Greatbridge, and then just taking the right inside the solider camp.
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Once you reach the Pillar Path Cross Site of Grace and Miquella’s Cross, chat with Thiollier and exhaust his dialogue.
Check in with Moore after meeting Thiollier
After you have your first talk with Thiollier, head back to the Main Gate Cross Site of Grace in front of Belurat. Check in with Moore and talk to him, and he’ll give you some Black Syrup for Thiollier.
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Head across to Pillar Path Cross Site of Grace to give the Black Syrup and then ask about the Black Syrup. Choose I’m tired of life next, and Thiollier will hand you Thiollier’s Concoction. This is an item you’ll use with the Dragon Communion Priestess on Igon’s questline.
Break the great rune (and the charm)
Before you can make any more progress, you need to break a great rune that’s blocking your path. You probably haven’t even seen it yet, but it’s time to get it out of the way.
To break it, you need to approachShadow Keep. Just before you reach the front door, you’ll get a pair of messages — “Somewhere, a great rune has broken…” and “And so too has a powerful charm.” These both generally relate to Miquella and the NPCs you’ve met so far. For Thiollier and St. Trina specifically, the great rune was blocking a path you’ll need to head to now.
Reach the Stone Coffin Fissure and defeat the Putrescent Knight
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All the way at the southern tip of the Southern Shores, there’s a fissure you can climb (fall) down. That’s your next stop. At the bottom, you’ll find the The Fissure Site of Grace at the entrance to the Cerulean Coast and the Stone Coffin Fissure — this is where the rune we broke was blocking your progress.
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A bit further along, you’ll face the Putrescent Knight and unlock the Garden of Deep Purple Site of Grace. Once you do, you’ll be right near where St. Trina has been hiding.
Head into the tunnel by the Garden of Deep Purple Site of Grace to meet St. Trina. She’s not very talkative. Don’t do anything with her yet. Instead, leave and then go check in with Thiollier.
Tell Thiollier about St. Trina’s whereabouts
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Go back to the Pillar Path Cross Site of Grace and speak with Thiollier. Tell him St. Trina’s whereabouts, and he’ll relocate.
Imbibe the nectar
The next part of their questline is a little confusing (and dark). Head back to the Garden of Deep Purple and go chat with Thiollier.
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Ignore his warnings, and go talk to St. Trina. When you have the option, choose to imbibe nectar. Just like Thiollier said, this will kill you immediately. That’s the plan, though, so trust the process.
Keep respawning at the site of grace and then imbibing the nectar over and over — four times in a row — until you start hearing St. Trina’s voice on the black screen before you respawn.
Defeat Thiollier
Once you hear St. Trina’s words, head back and try to pass the message on to Thiollier. It’ll take two tries, and he won’t be receptive.
Imbibe the nectar (and die) again. You’ll hear a bit more from St. Trina in the darkness.
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When you respawn, you’ll get invaded by Thiollier. Defeat him to pick up the St. Trina’s Smile talisman.
Pass on St. Trina’s words
Head into the cave and talk to Thiollier again. Drink the nectar again. Die again.
This time, when you respawn and speak to him again, Thiollier will finally hear you out. Pass on St. Trina’s words to him.
Burn the Sealing Tree
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St. Trina and Thiollier’s questline won’t come to an end for a while. You’ll have to finish Shadow Keep, cross the Rauh Ruins, defeat Romina, Saint of the Bud at the Church of the Bud, and then finally use Messmer’s Kindling to burn the Sealing Tree.
That will open the Tower of Shadow and teleport you to the Enir-Ilim: Outer Wall Site of Grace in Enir-Ilim. Before you explore too far, though, it’s time to check in on Thiollier one last time.
Talk to Thiollier
Head back to the Garden of Deep Purple and talk to Thiollier — he won’t have much to say. Imbibe St. Trina’s nectar again, hear what she has to say now, and then return to Thiollier.
He probably still won’t have anything to say, but this will ensure you can summon him for…
Summon Thiollier to fight Leda and her allies
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After you make it all the way through all of Enir-Ilim, you’ll come to a large arena where you face off against Needle Knight Leda and her allies — Redmane Freyja, Dryleaf Dane, and, possibly, Sir Moore.
You can summon Thiollier and, if you’ve followed his questline, Sir Ansbach to aid you in the fight.
Thiollier’s fight isn’t over yet.
Summon Thiollier for the final boss fight
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After defeating Leda, you’ll make your way up to the Divine Gate for the game’s final boss fight. Before you step through the fog wall, there will (might) be summon signs for your allies, Ansbach and Thiollier.
No matter how the fight goes down, rest at the new Gate of Divinity Site of Grace. After, you’ll find Thiollier dead nearby where you can pick up Thiollier’s Hidden Needle and Thiollier’s set of armor. (Ansbach may be here as well.)
Receive St. Trina’s Blossom
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With the fight done, head back to the Garden of the Purple Deep one last time. You’ll find St. Trina dead as well, but she left you the St. Trina’s Blossom (quite fetching) headgear.
Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC poses one big question, the type of earthshaking query that can rattle the philosophical foundation of any gamer’s mindset: “What if Elden Ring, but more?”
In truth, you’re the only person who can answer that question for yourself. But if you’ve played a bunch of the base game — and hit all the pre-requisites for accessing the DLC — one look at Shadow of the Erdtree is likely enough impetus to sigh, sit down, and recognize it’s time to do it all again.
As with all things Elden Ring, there’s no need to brave this expansion alone. Start with our guide on the recommended level for Shadow of the Erdtree, then see what to do first in the Elden Ring DLC, or get lost in our interactive map. From there, if you find yourself stuck on any of the byzantine legacy dungeons, check out our walkthroughs for Belurat, Castle Ensis, and Shadow Keep.
Yes, “more Elden Ring” might sound like a daunting proposition. But Shadow of the Erdtree retains one quality that made the base game such a standout: It’s way easier (and way more fun) when you phone a friend.