A jury’s conclusion that President Trump should pay writer E. Jean Carroll more than $83 million in damages for defamation was “fair and reasonable,” a federal appeals court panel ruled Monday.
“We hold that the district court did not err in any of the challenged rulings and that the jury’s duly rendered damages awards were reasonable in light of the extraordinary and egregious facts of this case,” three judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit wrote in a unanimous opinion.
The decision is the latest defeat for Mr. Trump in a case that dates back to 2019, when Carroll first went public with allegations that he sexually assaulted her in a department store decades earlier.
Roberta Kaplan, an attorney for Carroll, lauded the decision, saying the appeals panel concluded that “Carroll was telling the truth, and that President Donald Trump was not.” Kaplan noted that the court found Mr. Trump was “recklessly indifferent” to Carroll’s “health and safety” when making defamatory statements about her.
“We look forward to an end to the appellate process so that justice will finally be done,” Kaplan said.
Lawyers for the president argued that he was shielded in the case by presidential immunity, that the trial court made a series of improper decisions and that the damages awarded to Carroll were excessive. The appeals court rejected their arguments in each instance.
A spokesman for Mr. Trump’s legal team decried “the political weaponization of our justice system,” calling the case a “Democrat-funded travesty.”
“President Trump will keep winning against Liberal Lawfare, as he is focusing on his mission to Make America Great Again,” the spokesman said.
Carroll has twice prevailed over Mr. Trump at trial. In 2023, a federal jury in New York awarded her $5 million while finding Mr. Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation. The same appeals court in June upheld that judgment. That case involved allegations that Mr. Trump forcefully inserted his fingers into Ms. Carroll, which the jury concluded was substantiated by a preponderance of evidence.
In 2024, a separate jury heard evidence related to additional defamatory remarks made by Mr. Trump about Carroll. The appeals court noted in its decision Monday that “he made several disruptive comments and gestures in front of the judge and jury.”
Mr. Trump’s defamatory statements included him both denying Carroll’s allegations and insisting she had made them up.
During the 2024 trial, the jury heard evidence and analysis pointing to significant reputational and personal damage suffered by Carroll in the wake of Mr. Trump’s denials.
Carroll’s attorney, Roberta Kaplan, implored the jury to award Carroll enough to “make him stop” defaming her client.
Graham Kates is an investigative reporter covering criminal justice, privacy issues and information security for CBS News Digital. Contact Graham at KatesG@cbsnews.com or grahamkates@protonmail.com
NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump will soon ask the Supreme Court to throw out a jury’s finding in a civil lawsuit that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll at a Manhattan department store in the mid-1990s and later defamed her, his lawyers said in a recent court filing.
Trump’s lawyers previewed the move as they asked the high court to extend its deadline for challenging the $5 million verdict from Sept. 10 to Nov. 11. The president “intends to seek review” of “significant issues” arising from the trial and the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals’ subsequent decisions upholding the verdict, his lawyers said.
Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, said Wednesday: “We do not believe that President Trump will be able to present any legal issues in the Carroll cases that merit review by the United States Supreme Court.”
Carroll testified at a 2023 trial that Trump turned a friendly encounter in spring 1996 into a violent attack in the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman, a luxury retailer across the street from Trump Tower. The jury also found Trump liable for defaming Carroll when he made comments in October 2022 denying her allegation.
A three-judge appellate panel upheld the verdict last December, rejecting Trump’s claims that trial Judge Lewis A. Kaplan’s decisions spoiled the trial, including by allowing two other Trump sexual abuse accusers to testify. The women said Trump committed similar acts against them in the 1970s and in 2005. Trump denied all three women’s allegations.
In June, 2nd Circuit judges denied Trump’s petition for the full appellate court to take up the case. That left Trump with two options: accept the result and allow Carroll to collect the judgment, which he’d previously paid into escrow, or fight on in Supreme Court, whose conservative majority — including three of his own appointees — could be more open to considering his challenge.
Trump skipped the 2023 trial but testified briefly at a follow-up defamation trial last year that ended with a jury ordering him to pay Carroll an additional $83.3 million. The second trial resulted from comments then-President Trump made in 2019 after Carroll first made the accusations publicly in a memoir.
Judge Kaplan presided over both trials and instructed the second jury to accept the first jury’s finding that Trump had sexually abused Carroll. Judge Kaplan and Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, are not related.
In their deadline-related filing, Trump’s lawyers said Kaplan compounded his “significant errors” at first trial by “improperly preventing” Trump from contesting the first jury’s finding that he had sexually abused Carroll, leading to an “unjust judgment of $83.3 million.”
The 2nd Circuit heard arguments in June in Trump’s appeal of that verdict but has not ruled.
Trump has had recent success fending off costly civil judgments. Last month, a New York appeals court threw out Trump’s staggering penalty in a state civil fraud lawsuit.
The Associated Press does not identify people who say they have been sexually assaulted unless they come forward publicly, as Carroll has done.
While Donald Trump campaigns for the presidency, his lawyers are fighting to overturn a verdict finding him liable for sexual abuse and slander.Three judges of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals are scheduled to hear arguments Friday in Trump’s appeal of a jury’s finding that he sexually assaulted the writer E. Jean Carroll. She says the Republican attacked her in a department store dressing room in 1996. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.For several days, preparations have been underway in a stately federal courthouse in lower Manhattan for Trump to attend the arguments in person.Trump’s lawyers say the jury’s verdict should be tossed because evidence was allowed at trial that should have been excluded and other evidence was excluded that should have been permitted.Trump, who has denied attacking Carroll, did not attend the 2023 trial and has expressed regret he was not there.The court is unlikely to issue a ruling before November’s presidential election.The civil case has both political and financial implications for Trump.Vice President Kamala Harris, a Democrat, has jabbed at Trump over the jury’s verdict, noting repeatedly that he had been found liable for sexual abuse.And last January, a second jury awarded Carroll another $83.3 million in damages for comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory. That jury had been instructed by the judge that it had to accept the first jury’s finding that Trump had sexually assaulted Carroll. The second trial was largely held to determine how badly Carroll had been harmed by Trump’s comments and how severely he should be punished.Trump, 77, testified less than three minutes at the trial and was not permitted to refute conclusions reached by the May 2023 jury. Still, he was animated in the courtroom throughout the two-week trial, and jurors could hear him grumbling about the case.The appeal of that trial’s outcome, which Trump labeled “absolutely ridiculous!” immediately afterward, will be heard by the appeals court at a later date.Carroll, 80, testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said ignited such hate against her that she received death threats and feared going outside the upstate New York cabin where she lives.Lawyers for Trump said in court papers that he deserves a new trial in part because the trial judge, Lewis A. Kaplan, permitted two other women to testify about similar acts of sex abuse they say Trump committed against them in the 1970s and in 2005.They also argued that Kaplan wrongly disallowed evidence that Carroll lied during her deposition, and other evidence they say would reveal bias and motives to lie for Carroll and other witnesses against Trump. The verdict, they wrote, was “unjust and erroneous,” resulting from “flawed and prejudicial evidentiary rulings.”Trump has insisted that Carroll made up the story about being attacked to sell a new book. He has denied knowing her.Trump’s lawyers also challenged repeated airing at trial of an “Access Hollywood” videotape from 2005 in which Trump is heard saying that he sometimes just starts kissing beautiful women and “when you’re a star they let you do it.” He also said that a star can grab women’s genitals because “You can do anything.”In their written arguments, Carroll’s lawyers said Trump was wrongly demanding “a do-over” based on unfounded “sweeping complaints of unfairness” and other “distortions of the record, misstatements or misapplications of the law, and a steadfast disregard of the district court’s reasoning.”“There was no error here, let alone a violation of Trump’s substantial rights. This Court should affirm,” Carroll’s lawyers said.
NEW YORK —
While Donald Trump campaigns for the presidency, his lawyers are fighting to overturn a verdict finding him liable for sexual abuse and slander.
Three judges of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals are scheduled to hear arguments Friday in Trump’s appeal of a jury’s finding that he sexually assaulted the writer E. Jean Carroll. She says the Republican attacked her in a department store dressing room in 1996. That jury awarded Carroll $5 million.
For several days, preparations have been underway in a stately federal courthouse in lower Manhattan for Trump to attend the arguments in person.
Trump’s lawyers say the jury’s verdict should be tossed because evidence was allowed at trial that should have been excluded and other evidence was excluded that should have been permitted.
Trump, who has denied attacking Carroll, did not attend the 2023 trial and has expressed regret he was not there.
The court is unlikely to issue a ruling before November’s presidential election.
The civil case has both political and financial implications for Trump.
Vice President Kamala Harris, a Democrat, has jabbed at Trump over the jury’s verdict, noting repeatedly that he had been found liable for sexual abuse.
And last January, a second jury awarded Carroll another $83.3 million in damages for comments Trump had made about her while he was president, finding that they were defamatory. That jury had been instructed by the judge that it had to accept the first jury’s finding that Trump had sexually assaulted Carroll. The second trial was largely held to determine how badly Carroll had been harmed by Trump’s comments and how severely he should be punished.
Trump, 77, testified less than three minutes at the trial and was not permitted to refute conclusions reached by the May 2023 jury. Still, he was animated in the courtroom throughout the two-week trial, and jurors could hear him grumbling about the case.
The appeal of that trial’s outcome, which Trump labeled “absolutely ridiculous!” immediately afterward, will be heard by the appeals court at a later date.
Carroll, 80, testified during both trials that her life as an Elle magazine columnist was spoiled by Trump’s public comments, which she said ignited such hate against her that she received death threats and feared going outside the upstate New York cabin where she lives.
Lawyers for Trump said in court papers that he deserves a new trial in part because the trial judge, Lewis A. Kaplan, permitted two other women to testify about similar acts of sex abuse they say Trump committed against them in the 1970s and in 2005.
They also argued that Kaplan wrongly disallowed evidence that Carroll lied during her deposition, and other evidence they say would reveal bias and motives to lie for Carroll and other witnesses against Trump. The verdict, they wrote, was “unjust and erroneous,” resulting from “flawed and prejudicial evidentiary rulings.”
Trump has insisted that Carroll made up the story about being attacked to sell a new book. He has denied knowing her.
Trump’s lawyers also challenged repeated airing at trial of an “Access Hollywood” videotape from 2005 in which Trump is heard saying that he sometimes just starts kissing beautiful women and “when you’re a star they let you do it.” He also said that a star can grab women’s genitals because “You can do anything.”
In their written arguments, Carroll’s lawyers said Trump was wrongly demanding “a do-over” based on unfounded “sweeping complaints of unfairness” and other “distortions of the record, misstatements or misapplications of the law, and a steadfast disregard of the district court’s reasoning.”
“There was no error here, let alone a violation of Trump’s substantial rights. This Court should affirm,” Carroll’s lawyers said.
Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday misrepresented in a social media post what the U.S. Supreme Court’s Monday ruling on presidential immunity means for his civil and criminal cases.
“TOTAL EXONERATION!” he wrote in the post on his Truth Social platform. “It is clear that the Supreme Court’s Brilliantly Written and Historic Decision ENDS all of Crooked Joe Biden’s Witch Hunts against me, including the WHITE HOUSE AND DOJ INSPIRED CIVIL HOAXES in New York.”
But none of Trump’s pending cases have been dismissed as a result of the ruling, nor have the verdicts already reached against him been overturned. The ruling does amount to a major victory for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, whose legal strategy has focused on delaying court proceedings until after the 2024 election.
Here’s a closer look at the facts.
CLAIM: The Supreme Court’s ruling that former presidents have broad immunity from prosecution means “total exoneration” for former President Donald Trump.
THE FACTS: Although the historic 6-3 ruling is a win for Trump, he has not been exonerated and his legal troubles are far from over. A delay of his Washington trial on charges of election interference has been indefinitely extended as a result. Also, he still faces charges in two other criminal cases, and the verdicts already reached against him in a criminal and a civil case have not been overturned.
Barbara McQuade, a law professor at the University of Michigan and former U.S. attorney for the state’s Eastern District, told The Associated Press that Trump’s claim is “inaccurate for a number of reasons.”
“The court found immunity from prosecution, not exoneration,” she wrote in an email. “The court did not say that Trump’s conduct did not amount to criminal behavior. Just that prosecutors are not allowed to prosecute him for it because of the special role of a president and the need to permit him to make ‘bold’ and ‘fearless’ decisions without concern for criminal consequences.”
McQuade wrote that Trump’s case over classified documents found at his Mar-a-Lago estate won’t be affected, as it arose from conduct committed after he left the White House. She added that any impact on his New York hush money trial “seems unlikely” since the crimes were committed in a personal capacity.
“In addition, the Court’s opinion is solely focused on immunity for criminal conduct,” McQuade continued, explaining that it will not protect him from civil liability in his cases regarding defamatory statements about advice columnist E. Jean Carroll or fraudulent business practices conducted at the Trump Organization.
Trump’s campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The Supreme Court’s conservative majority said former presidents have absolute immunity from prosecution for official acts that fall within their “exclusive sphere of constitutional authority” and are presumptively entitled to immunity for all official acts. Unofficial, or private, actions are exempt from such immunity.
This means that special counsel Jack Smith cannot proceed with significant allegations in his indictment accusing Trump of plotting to overturn his 2020 presidential election loss, or he must at least defend their use in future proceedings before the trial judge.
The case has not been dismissed. It was instead sent back to U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, who must now “carefully analyze” whether other allegations involve official conduct for which the president would be immune from prosecution. The trial was supposed to have begun in March, but has been on hold since December to allow Trump to pursue his Supreme Court appeal.
However, the justices did knock out one aspect of the indictment, finding that Trump is “absolutely immune” from prosecution for alleged conduct involving discussions with the Justice Department.
The opinion also stated that Trump is “at least presumptively immune” from allegations that he tried to pressure Vice President Mike Pence on Jan. 6, 2021, to reject certification of Democrat Joe Biden’s electoral vote win. But prosecutors can try to make the case that Trump’s pressure on Pence can still be part of the case against him, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote.
It is all but certain that the ruling means Trump will not face trial in Washington ahead of the 2024 election, as the need for further analysis is expected to tie up the case for months with legal wrangling over whether actions in the indictment were official or unofficial, the AP has reported.
Trump is facing charges in two other criminal cases, one over his alleged interference in Georgia’s 2020 election and the other over classified documents found at his Mar-a-Lago estate after he left the White House. Trump’s lawyers have asserted presidential immunity in both cases, but a ruling on the matter has not been made in either.
The former president was convicted in May of 34 felony counts in his hush money trial in New York. After Monday’s ruling, the New York judge who presided over that trial postponed Trump’s sentencing until at least September and agreed to weigh the impact of the presidential immunity decision.
Trump was ordered in February to pay a $454 million penalty as part of a civil fraud lawsuit, for lying about his wealth for years as he built the real estate empire that vaulted him to stardom and the White House. It is still under appeal.
In May 2023, a jury found Trump liable for sexually abusing Carroll in 1996 and for defaming her over the allegations, awarding her $5 million. Carroll was awarded an additional $83.3 million in January by a separate jury for Trump’s continued social media attacks against her. An appeal of the former decision was rejected in April. The latter case is still being appealed.
Case type: Civil Where: New York Supreme Court Attorney: Roberta Kaplan Status: Trump was found liable for battery and defamation in May 2023 and was found liable in a second defamation trial in January 2024.
In a 2019 New York cover story, writer E. Jean Carroll accused Trump of sexually assaulting her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the mid-1990s. After Trump accused her of lying, Carroll, represented by Roberta Kaplan, sued him fordefamation. Then she sued for damages over the alleged assault, taking advantage of a recent New York law that extends the statute of limitations for adult survivors of sexual abuse. The trial began in April 2023, and on May 9, a jury ruled that Trump was liable for sexual assault and defamation, awarding Carroll $5 million in damages.
A second defamation trial began in federal court in New York on January 15, 2024, and lasted a week, with Carroll testifying that Trump destroyed her reputation after she accused him of assault. A jury found Trump liable for defamation after three hours of deliberation, ordering him to pay Carroll an additional $83.3 million in damages. Trump and his legal team have vowed to appeal both verdicts.
Most Americans see Memorial Day as a time to pay tribute to the U.S. service members who gave their lives for their country, or perhaps fire up the BBQ with friends and family to celebrate the unofficial start of summer, or maybe save some money on a new mattress. According to Google, a lot of Americans also make a point to look up what the “Memorial Day meaning” is. Then there’s Donald Trump.
For years, MAGA’s once and future king has made a tradition of celebrating major holidays — from Christmas to Mother’s Day to Easter — by launching CAPS-littered attacks on his perceived enemies. And if Trump Googled the meaning of Memorial Day on Sunday morning, even the search engine’s bizarrenew AI is unlikely to have answered that the holiday was about “human scum” or a good opportunity to rack up some more defamation damages.
In a Truth Social post, the former president wished a happy holiday to “to All, including the Human Scum that is working so hard to destroy our Once Great Country,” before repeating his attacks on two of the judges in New York who have presided over cases against him and his corporation this year. Trump devoted most of the post, however, to once again defaming E. Jean Carroll, the writer who, according to Carroll — and, last year, a jury in a civil trial — he sexually assaulted in a New York department store in the 1990s, and who has twice successfully sued Trump for defamation, including in January when a jury awarded her well over $80 million in damages.
Trump did not refer to Carroll by name in his post on Sunday, though it was obvious she was the “woman” he mentioned and once again called a liar.
The massive sum the jury awarded Carroll in January — which is Trump is trying to appeal — was largely an effort to deter Trump from further defaming her, but the deterrent lost its effectiveness less than a month and a half later. When he resumed his defamation of Carroll in March, her attorneys indicated they might indeed file another lawsuit. Carroll lawyer Roberta Kaplan reiterated that point again in response to Trump’s new attack on her client Sunday. “We have said several times since the last jury verdict in January that all options were on the table. And that remains true today — all options are on the table,” Kaplan said in a statement to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman.
Trump’s lawsuit-seeking lips were again moving at a rally in Georgia on Saturday night. Photo: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
On January 26, a jury in New York ordered Donald Trump to pay more than $83 million in damages to E. Jean Carroll as punishment for repeatedly defaming her. Another jury had sided with Carroll in May and found Trump liable for both sexual assaulting and defaming her, awarding her $5 million in damages. But the former president continued to call Carroll a liar afterward, and so she sued Trump for defamation again, and won in court again. This time, the judgment included a whopping $65 million in punitive damages, which was meant to deter Trump from repeating his false claims about Carroll. That deterrent only remained effective for 43 days.
On Saturday — one day after he tried to post a $91 million bond in order to prevent Carroll’s attorneys from seizing his assets while he appeals the verdict — Trump resumed defaming Carroll.
Noting the bond at campaign rally in Rome, Georgia, Trump once again called Carroll a liar:
I just posted a $91 million bond, $91 million on a fake story, totally made-up story. $91 million based on false accusations made about me by a woman that I knew nothing about, didn’t know, never heard of, I know nothing about her. She wrote a book, she said things. And when I denied it, I said, “It’s so crazy. It’s false.” I get sued for defamation. That’s where it starts.
(He actually hasn’t posted the bond yet, his lawyers have requested he be allowed to.)
Trump also briefly referenced Carroll at a rally in Michigan last month, vaguely implying he did not know her.
Though Carrol’s attorneys have not yet commented on Trump’s weekend remarks, Carroll has made it clear she would another lawsuit if he defamed her again. Her attorney, Roberta Kaplan, has said that “all options are on the table” regarding additional lawsuits. Another Carroll attorney, Shawn Crowley, said in an interview last month that they were watching and listening, waiting to see whether Trump would start up again.
PHILADELPHIA – As he closes in on the Republican presidential nomination, former President Donald Trump made a highly unusual stop Saturday, hawking new Trump-branded sneakers at “Sneaker Con,” a gathering that bills itself as the “The Greatest Sneaker Show On Earth!”
Trump was met with loud boos as well as cheers at the Philadelphia Convention Center as he unveiled what he touted as the first official Trump footwear. The shoes, gold lame high tops with an American flag detail on the back, are being sold as “The Never Surrender High-Tops” for $399 on a new website that also sells Trump-branded “Victory47” cologne and perfume for $99 a bottle.
The website says it has no connection to Trump’s campaign, though Trump campaign officials promoted the appearance in online posts.
The launch comes a day after a judge in New York ordered Trump to pay a whopping $355 million in penalties, finding that the former president lied about his wealth for years, scheming to dupe banks, insurers and others by inflating his wealth on financial statements.
This isn’t the first money-making venture Trump has announced since launching his third campaign for the White House in 2022. Trump last year reported making between $100,000 and $1 million for a series of digital trading cards that portrayed him photoshopped in a series of cartoon-like images, including an astronaut, a cowboy and a superhero.
Trump’s appearance was met with clashing boos from his detractors and chants of “USA!” from supporters who arrived at the sneaker event decked out in Trump gear. The dueling chants made it difficult, at times, to hear Trump speak. Some held signs that read “SNEAKERHEADS LOVE TRUMP.”
“There’s a lot of emotion in this room,” Trump said, after holding up and showing off the gold shoes and then placing them on either side of his podium.
“This is something that I’ve been talking about for 12 years, 13 years,” he said.
As he spoke, the smell of weed occasionally wafted through the room.
Some of those who attended said they were unaware Trump would be there, and continued to shop as a crowd gathered around the stage. Many in the audience said they were not from the city and instead hailed from nearby states and Washington, D.C. The attendees skewed younger and more diverse than Trump’s usual rally crowds and some Black attendees were seen leaving to continue shopping as Trump spoke.
Trump’s campaign is hoping he will be able to win over more young and minority voters, particularly young Black men, in a likely rematch against President Joe Biden in November.
The new sneaker website says it is run by CIC Ventures LLC, a company that Trump reported owning in his 2023 financial disclosure. A similarly-named company, CIC Digital LLC, owns the digital trading card NFTs, or non-fungible tokens.
The website states the new venture “is not political and has nothing to do with any political campaign.
A Trump spokesman did not respond to questions about the event.
The website touts the shoes as a limited-edition “true collector’s item” that is “Bold, gold, and tough, just like President Trump.”
“The Never Surrender sneakers are your rally cry in shoe form. Lace-up and step out ready to conquer,” the description reads.
Biden-Harris 2024 Communications Director Michael Tyler slammed the appearance saying: “Donald Trump showing up to hawk bootleg Off-Whites is the closest he’ll get to any Air Force Ones ever again for the rest of his life.”
Trump will hold a rally later Saturday in Michigan in the suburbs of Detroit.
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Colvin reported from New York.
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Attorney Roberta Kaplan said former President Donald Trump threw papers across a table and stormed off during a deposition at Mar-a-Lago after learning that his legal team had agreed to provide her lunch.
Kaplan, who has represented clients in high-profile cases against Trump, including E. Jean Carroll, said on an episode of the “George Conway Explains it All (to Sarah Longwell)” podcast recorded Thursday that she rejected the former president’s request that they work through a lunch break because he believed the deposition was “a waste of my time.”
“And then you could kind of see the wheel spinning in his brain. You could really almost see it,” Kaplan told Republican strategist Sarah Longwell and conservative attorney George Conway, a longtime Trump critic. “And he said, ‘Well, you’re here in Mar-a-Lago. What do you think you’re going to do for lunch? Where are you going to get lunch?’”
Kaplan said she told him that his attorneys had “graciously offered to provide” her team with lunch — a common civil practice between opposing legal teams.
“At which point there was a huge pile of documents, exhibits, sitting in front of him, and he took the pile and he just threw it across the table. And stormed out of the room,” Kaplan shared, adding that Trump specifically yelled at his lawyer Alina Habba for providing them lunch.
“He really yelled at Alina for that. He was so mad at Alina,” she said.
Kaplan continued: “He came back in and he said, ‘Well, how’d you like the lunch?’ And I said, ‘Well, sir, I had a banana. You know, I can never really eat when I’m taking testimony.’ And he said, ‘Well, I told you,’ — it was kind of charming. He said, ‘I told you, I told them to make you really bad sandwiches, but they can’t help themselves here. We have the best sandwiches.’”
Kaplan was deposing Trump at Mar-Lago in a lawsuit alleging the former president was involved with a fraudulent marketing company. A federal judge dismissed the suit last month.
In a separate anecdote, Kaplan detailed the end of the deposition when she was set to leave, saying that Trump told her: “See you next Tuesday” – a phrase that is often used as a derogatory euphemism directed at women.
“We come in the room and I say, ‘I’m done asking questions’ and immediately I hear from the other side, ‘Off the record. Off the record. Off the record.’ So they must have planned it. And he looks at me from across the table and he says, ‘See you next Tuesday,’” she recounted.
Kaplan said that she was initially confused, as their next meeting was set for a Wednesday. “You could tell it was like, it was like a kind of a joke again, like teenage boys would come up with. But again, I wasn’t in on the joke,” she said.
“I wasn’t in on the joke, so I had no idea. Then we get into the car and my colleagues are like, ‘Robbie, do you know what that means?’ And I’m like, ‘No, what are you talking about?’ They tell me and I’m like, oh my God, thank God I didn’t know because had I known, I for sure would have gotten angry. There’s no question I would have gotten angry,” Kaplan said.
CNN has reached out to representatives for Trump and Habba.
Kaplan’s comments come a week after her victory in Carroll’s defamation trial against Trump. A jury awarded Carroll — a former magazine columnist who has alleged Trump raped her in a department store in the mid-1990s and then defamed her when he denied her claim — $83.3 million. Trump is expected to appeal the verdict.
E. Jean Carroll and attorney Roberta Kaplan (R) is seen leaving Manhattan Federal Court on January 26, 2024 in New York City. – GWR/Star Max/Getty Images
Kaplan also described last week’s verdict as a career-defining moment. When asked which feels better — winning the defamation case against Trump or her successful challenge to the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013 that led to the eventual Supreme Court ruling that cleared the way for same-sex marriage — Kaplan pointed to her recent victory.
“I spent my whole life devoted to the principle that we have a rule of law and we have a judicial system that works,” Kaplan said. “And that’s what makes us a constitutional democracy, that’s — at least until recently — was to be admired worldwide. And it was starting, I mean, it is in times looking like that may not be true.”
But, she added: “This case validated that at least as of now, we still have all that.”
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Back in the 1990s, when he was a smaller public figure, Donald Trump used to tell a story about his brush with financial ruin. It is in his third memoir, Trump: The Art of the Comeback, which covers the period after his massively overleveraged real-estate and casino empire collapsed, leaving him buried in debt. One day, when Trump was at his lowest point, he was walking along Fifth Avenue, holding hands with his second wife, Marla Maples. Trump pointed to a panhandler who was rattling a cup of change. “Do you know who he is?” he asked Maples.
“He’s a beggar,” she replied. “He looks so sad!”
“You’re right,” Trump said. “He’s a beggar, but he’s worth around $900 million more than me.”
Whether it is true or apocryphal, the anecdote tells you a lot about his emotional relationship to money. Here was a man who still lived in an 11,000-square-foot Trump Tower penthouse, still owned his mansion at Mar-a-Lago, and still had a former beauty queen on his arm — and yet in his own estimation, he was worth less than zero. In a 2007 deposition in a libel case he brought against a journalist who dared to question whether he was really a billionaire, Trump testified that much of his wealth was tied to the value of his personal brand, which fluctuated with “attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings.” His net worth is not just a number. It is an expression of his self-esteem, the radioactive core that makes him run.
Last Friday, a jury of nine New Yorkers struck Trump in his softest spot, awarding $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll, a writer who sued him for defamation. In her closing argument, Carroll’s lead attorney, Roberta Kaplan, had explicitly told the jury the case was “about punishing Donald Trump for what he has done and for what he continues to do.” What he had done, according to a previous jury verdict, was sexually assault Carroll in a Fifth Avenue department store, right around the same time The Art of the Comeback was published. What he had continued to do — even through the trial itself — was to savage Carroll, the federal judge hearing the case, and the whole “broken and unfair” legal system. Kaplan asked the jury to come up with a seemingly impossible figure: a number large enough to change Trump’s behavior.
“While Donald Trump may not care about the law,” Kaplan said, “while he certainly doesn’t care about the truth, he does care about money.”
Trump does not have to pay anything to Carroll yet. The damages award is certain to be appealed, and he presumably will use every tool at his disposal to thwart collection. (Much of The Art of the Comeback is about his struggles with people to whom he owed money.) And it seems unlikely that the result of the trial — the first of several, both civil and criminal, that Trump could potentially go through this year — will do anything to dent his position in the all-but-over race for the Republican presidential nomination. Yet the verdict does matter. The enormous damages add to the legal and financial pressures that are bearing down on Trump, which will soon grow heavier. As soon as this week, New York state judge Arthur F. Engoron is likely to issue a decision in a civil-fraud case against the Trump Organization. Attorney General Letitia James has asked the judge to assess $370 million in penalties, to place the company under independent monitoring for a period of at least five years, and to ban Trump for life from the real-estate industry and any role in managing his or any other New York company.
“There is no longer Justice in America,” Trump posted on his platform Truth Social after the verdict on Friday. His complaints are a central component of his campaign message, but they are not merely for political show. If he doesn’t have another comeback in him, Trump is in very real danger of being forced to sell assets or even choose bankruptcy. In a deposition in the fraud case last year, Trump testified that his company had $400 million in cash. If his estimate is accurate, he could be facing that much, or more, in legal liabilities by the end of this week. And that is before he even gets to his criminal trials, which might start this spring and could possibly land him in prison.
As he does whenever he loses, Trump complained that the Carroll trial was rigged. In this case, he wasn’t completely wrong. But he is the one who built the trap and sprang it on himself.
How did a fairly everyday dispute — she accuses, he says it’s a lie — turn into an $83 million verdict? In a time of mostly unchecked slander, defamation lawsuits have become a popular way for people who have suffered harm on social media to seek redress, as well an alternative route to accountability for conduct that cannot be criminally prosecuted. Yet the scale of the damages in this particular trial was also the culmination of years of Trump’s self-sabotage.
The legal saga began in 2019, when Carroll published a book containing a nine-page passage making public her rape allegation against Trump. An excerpt was published as a cover story in New York. In it, Carroll frankly acknowledged her reasons for keeping the story to herself for 30 years. “Receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud, and joining the sixteen women who’ve come forward with credible stories about how the man grabbed, badgered, belittled, mauled, molested, and assaulted them, only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten, and attack them, never sounded like much fun. Also, I’m a coward.” Within hours, Trump issued the first in a series of attacks on Carroll’s credibility via a statement from the White House press office, implying that the author and New York were being paid by the Democrats and suggesting that “people should pay dearly for such false accusations.” (I had no involvement in soliciting, editing, or publishing the story.)
That November, Carroll filed a defamation lawsuit against Trump over his denials in New York state court. The suit was removed to federal court, and the Justice Department took up his defense on the grounds that Trump had been “acting within the scope of his office” when commenting on a news story. Carroll’s supporters howled in protest, but this was not a completely trivial argument. The line between denial and defamation can be fuzzy. Trump’s initial comments included such assertions as “I have no idea who this woman is,” “it is a totally false accusation,” “it’s an absolute disgrace that she’s allowed to do that,” and — inevitably — “she’s not my type.” Later on, he went way further in maligning Carroll’s character and truthfulness, but in the original lawsuit, Carroll cited only those first statements from the White House.
According to a longstanding Supreme Court precedent, presidents are considered immune from lawsuits for actions taken within the “outer perimeter” of their official duties. The Founding Fathers — who were continually fighting with one another via sympathetic newspapers — had written similar protections for members of Congress into the speech-and-debate clause of the Constitution. They recognized that officeholders have to be able to express their views freely without fear of legal action. The principle applies especially to modern day presidents, who are under constant scrutiny, and who are followed everywhere by members of the press. In 2021, Attorney General Merrick Garland declined to reverse the Justice Department’s previous legal position, telling a Senate hearing that there should “not be one rule for friends and another for foes.”
The whole Carroll matter might have disappeared down the memory hole if Trump had been able to control his temper. In 2022, a divided federal-appeals court panel in New York found that as president he had been covered by a federal law granting civil immunity to executive-branch employees and referred the case to another appeals court in Washington to consider the issue of whether he was speaking in an official capacity. But then Lewis A. Kaplan, the district court judge overseeing the case, issued a ruling that denied Trump a stay of discovery while the appeal was considered, forcing him to sit for a deposition with Carroll’s lawyers. Trump posted a furious statement on Truth Social, calling the lawsuit a “complete con job” and labeling Carroll as a fabulist. “She completely made up a story that I met her at the doors of this crowded New York City Department Store and, within minutes, ‘swooned’ her. It is a Hoax and a lie, just like all the other Hoaxes that have been played on me for the past seven years. And, while I am not supposed to say it, I will. This woman is not my type!”
Carroll’s attorneys promptly sued Trump, now a private citizen, for defamation a second time while adding a claim under a newly passed New York state law that waived the statute of limitations for civil suits involving claims of sexual assault. That case went to trial in May 2023.
Trump was not required to attend the trial, and he decided to stay away. He has since blamed his then-attorney, claiming he advised it was “beneath me.” Because it was a civil case, it was decided under a lower standard of proof than it would have had it been in a criminal sexual-assault trial. The jury found that it was more likely than not that Trump sexually assaulted Carroll and awarded her $5 million — a relatively paltry sum for Trump. (He has filed an appeal.) Judge Kaplan had suggested at one point that it “could prove unnecessary” to hold a second trial. But the day after the verdict, Trump went on a CNN town hall and called Carroll a “whack job” with a “fake story.” Roberta Kaplan — who is not related to the judge — then filed an amended complaint in the original case, asking for millions more in damages. And Garland’s DOJ reversed its position on Trump’s immunity, citing the verdict and his continued verbal abuse. His chance of winning his presidential immunity appeal vanished.
Thus Trump got a second trial — but not a retrial. Judge Kaplan issued a decision declaring that the verdict in the first case would also hold for the sequel. Trump would not be allowed to argue he was innocent of sexual assault, putting him at a gigantic disadvantage. He and his attorneys couldn’t hide their disgust in court. Trump was reprimanded by the judge for muttering epithets like “con job” and “witch hunt” during Carroll’s testimony. As the defendant, he could — and did — take the witness stand, but he was not allowed to say much. Kaplan also ruled against his efforts to undermine his accuser’s credibility by “relitigating his charges of fabrication,” or introducing evidence about her past relationships and donations that helped to fund her lawsuit. (It received support from liberal tech billionaire Reid Hoffman.)
On the first day of the trial, before jury selection began, Trump’s lead attorney, Alina Habba, complained that the judge’s rulings had “gotten rid of any ability to meaningfully defend ourselves and President Trump in this case.” Kaplan was unimpressed. Throughout the trial, he curtly cut off any attempt the Trump legal team made to relitigate or grandstand. At one point, Trump’s three-piece-suited campaign adviser, Boris Epshteyn, stood up and tried to address the judge as his “in-house counsel.” Kaplan told him: “Please have a seat.” The judge repeatedly admonished Habba for making procedural mistakes in introducing evidence and for continuing to argue points that he considered settled. (On Monday, Habba wrote a letter to the judge complaining of his “overtly hostile” attitude and questioning whether he had shown “preferential treatment” to the plaintiffs, citing a New York Post article that reported he had been a “mentor” to Roberta Kaplan earlier in her career. Habba noted that one of Carroll’s other attorneys, Shawn Crowley, also had served as his clerk.) By the time of final arguments, matters between Trump’s legal team and the judge had grown so tense that Kaplan was openly threatening Habba in court. She attempted at one point to go on talking after the judge had ruled against her an evidentiary motion.
“I’m sorry, your Honor,” Habba protested. “I have to make a record.”
“Ms. Habba,” he said, “you are on the verge of spending some time in the lockup. Now sit down.”
“Shocking,” Habba said.
Outside of court, though, there were no such restrictions on Trump, who continued to call Carroll a liar and used his platform to tell his fans a distorted version of events inside the courtroom. He fixated on Carroll’s admission on the stand that she had deleted emails that contained death threats. “She got rid of massive amounts of evidence,” he said at a press event on the second day of the trial. (How it would have benefited Carroll to delete evidence that would have helped her case he never explained.) When she testified that she now sleeps with a gun she inherited from her father next to her bed because she fears someone out there might try to kill her, Trump accused her of being a lawbreaker. “It wasn’t licensed, so I guess she’s got a difficult problem, and that’s going to be her problem.” He called the trial a “totally rigged deal” over a “made-up, fabricated story.”
These and other statements were swiftly introduced into evidence by Carroll’s lawyers, adding to their case for punitive damages. I had witnessed this dynamic before, at the December defamation trial of Rudy Giuliani, whose defiance outside the courtroom created a sort of defamation feedback loop. A jury in that case awarded $148 million to the plaintiffs, a pair of Georgia election workers whom Giuliani falsely accused of election fraud, even during the trial. Watching Trump’s similarly insolent behavior, I could almost hear the meter ticking up.
Trump’s trial strategy was so sure to backfire that you had to wonder whether, on some level, he was inviting the damage. “You can imagine a world where the worse the number, the easier it becomes for Trump to spin his own narrative outside of the courtroom,” said Meryl Conant Governski, one of the Willkie Farr & Gallagher attorneys who represented the plaintiffs in the Giuliani defamation case. “That is what I keep coming back to when I hear about these antics.”
Then again, maybe Trump just can’t help himself. His uncontrolled conduct in the courtroom would seem like a foreboding sign for his defense in his potential criminal trials, where his personal risks will be even higher and where he will be required to be present in court for the duration. The jury in the Carroll trial was supposed to be insulated from news coverage, but of course they all knew who Trump was, and they could read his attitude with their eyes.
On the first day of the trial, before selection took place, Judge Kaplan told the potential jurors about unusual steps he had taken to preserve their anonymity, “to protect all of you from any unwanted attention or harassment.” The seven men and two women were picked from a larger pool of several dozen. Trump was there at the defense table, sizing up the candidates with an upturned chin. I couldn’t tell if these people in their winter coats had been warned ahead of time about the nature of the case when they had arrived for jury duty. One of the candidates, a woman who later made it on the jury, looked at the person next to her and mouthed, “It’s Trump.” But most of them had the impassive look of New Yorkers in the presence of celebrity.
The nine who were selected offered only scant biographical details. Four of them said they were foreign born or spoke with accents. One man was a musician. Another was a respiratory therapist. Another was a retired New York City Transit track supervisor. Another was a newly married 26-year-old who said he was in property management and maintenance. The two female jurors were a schoolteacher from Germany and a publicist for a tech company.
Trump left the courthouse after jury selection in order to attend a campaign rally in New Hampshire, so he was not present for opening arguments. That meant that when Roberta Kaplan delivered her closing last Friday, it was his first time hearing her case against him.
“Typically when someone is held liable in court for spreading false and defamatory lies, they stop,” Kaplan said, referring to the first verdict. “We all have to follow the law. Donald Trump, however, acts as if these rules and laws just don’t apply to him.” Trump was sitting with his arms crossed, glaring, a picture of discontent. Kaplan used him as a sort of exhibit. “Donald Trump spent his entire trial continuing to engage in the very defamation that landed him here in the first place.” As she was saying this, Trump stood up from the defense table, turned on his heel, and walked out. “He continued to defame E. Jean Carroll, proudly and repeatedly.”
From left: Photo: United States District Court Southern District of New YorkPhoto: United States District Court Southern District of New York
From left: Photo: United States District Court Southern District of New YorkPhoto: United States District Court Southern District of New York
Trump was holed up in a court across the hall that the Secret Service was using as a holding room by the time Kaplan started to lay out her case for damages. The plaintiffs had called one expert, Northwestern University professor Ashlee Humphreys, who also testified in the Giuliani trial. Humphreys has developed a model for measuring reputational damage on social media, based on an estimate of the number of views each defamatory message received. She estimated that it would cost as much as $12 million for Carroll to hire social-media influencers to spread corrective messages with similar reach. The plaintiffs asked the jury to give Carroll that much in compensatory damages, plus an additional $12 million for emotional harm. Throughout the trial, Carroll’s attorneys had introduced evidence of the personal harassment she continued to receive from Trump’s followers. In their closing, they displayed a message she posted on X last Christmas Day reading: “Our earth needs care and love. Not war and hatred.”
“We also need fewer money grubbing whores who lie,” read one comment.
“No way Trump touch this mess,” read another.
When it came to punitive damages, Kaplan didn’t cite a figure, only what the jury already knew about his wealth. “Millions of dollars to Donald Trump is just a drop in the bucket,” she said.
Trump strolled back to the courtroom, his right hand balled in the pocket of his suit coat, for his team’s closing argument. A New Jersey lawyer who connected with Trump after she joined his Bedminster golf club, Habba has a sharp-edged, theatrical style that is well suited to Trump’s broader purpose of communicating his resentment toward the legal process to the voting public. It did not go over so well, though, in Lewis Kaplan’s federal courtroom. She opened by playing a video of a Trump press conference that the plaintiffs had introduced as evidence of malice.
“There is no one that can truly express the frustration of the last few years better than my client, the former president of the United States,” Habba said. “They’re right; that’s how he feels. Can you imagine a world where someone can accuse you of a terrible accusation and then you defend yourself, respond to reporters on the South Lawn as the sitting president, and you can’t speak?”
The plaintiffs objected, but Kaplan let Habba continue. She pushed her luck.
“He has said the same thing over and over again, and do you know why he has not wavered? Because it’s the truth.”
“Objection,” Roberta Kaplan said.
“The jury will disregard that assertion,” the judge ruled. “It has been conclusively determined.”
“He’s right,” Habba went on. “A jury made a decision. A jury.”
Habba forged on. “Ms. Carroll cannot prove causation,” she said, her voice rising and elongating the syllables for emphasis. She argued that Carroll had brought the online abuse upon herself by publishing the story, fully knowing the reaction it would inspire. “President Trump has no more control over the thoughts and feelings of social-media users than he does the weather,” Habba said. “He does not condone them. He did not direct them. All he did was tell his truth.”
Habba questioned whether Carroll was really terrorized. “She’s enjoying this,” she said, pointing out that Carroll’s social-media following had grown and she was now friendly with Trump-hating celebrities. “She made an allegation in the most public forum by design, an allegation that my client has continuously and consistently stated his position. It is an American right.”
“Objection,” Roberta Kaplan said.
“Members of the jury,” the judge repeated. “It is conclusively determined who is telling the truth about the event, that is to say, whether Mr. Trump sexually attacked or assaulted Ms. Carroll or not. It’s established. You must accept that.”
“It is established by a jury,” Habba said. “You’re right, your Honor.”
“It is established,” Judge Kaplan thundered, “and you will not quarrel with me.”
In the plaintiff’s rebuttal, Shawn Crowley said Habba’s central argument was yet more proof that Trump was unrepentant. “Ladies and gentlemen, his truth was a lie,” she said. “That may be how Donald Trump lives his life, telling a truth that is a lie, but it is not how it works under the law. The sexual assault happened, and Donald Trump had no right to say otherwise.” She challenged the argument that Carroll should have known what she was in for. “You know what that sounds like. You have heard it before. She asked for it.”
Crowley went on, addressing the jury directly. “I would ask you to think about what Donald Trump wants you to do here,” she said. “Yes, Donald Trump sexually assaulted Ms. Carroll. Yes, he defamed her over and over again. Yes, her reputation suffered. And yes, she gets death threats or, as Ms. Habba called them, mean tweets. But they want you to decide that that’s Ms. Carroll’s fault, that somehow Donald Trump is the victim here.”
Trump’s face contorted, and he appeared to say the word: “True.”
Crowley closed by asking the jury to “make him pay enough so that he will stop.” In the end, they had to deliberate for only a few hours before delivering their reckoning: $18.3 million in compensatory damages, less than what the plaintiffs had requested, but also a staggering $65 million in punitive damages. The punishment was delivered. Perhaps anticipating what was coming, Trump had left the courthouse in his motorcade earlier in the afternoon, so he didn’t hear the verdict. He left it to Habba to address the cameras outside the courthouse, where she complained about an unfair judge and “that ridiculous jury.”
“Don’t get it twisted. We are seeing a violation of our justice system,” Habba said. “Everybody has a right to defend themselves when they are wrongly accused and to be able to say, ‘I didn’t do it.’ And to double and triple and quadruple down, and say, ‘This is wrong.’”
Habba said she was “proud to stand with President Trump.” After the trial, she and other members of his defense team said they looked forward to another verdict from the voters. They pointed to polls suggesting that Trump’s legal troubles were galvanizing to his Republican supporters, who accepted his claims of persecution. “We are in the state of New York,” Habba said. “And that is why we are seeing these witch hunts, these ‘hoaxes,’ as he calls them.”
Trump was already aboard his plane, preparing to transition back from the trial to the trail. His personal stake in the coming election had just risen even higher. If he wins, he will presumably recover his legal immunity, allowing him to squash the criminal prosecutions he faces and possibly complicating the years-long appeals process for his civil cases. If he loses, Trump could also end up being stripped of his fortune, his business, his dignity, and his freedom.
“It will not deter us,” Habba said, sounding like a campaigner. “We will keep fighting. And I assure you we didn’t win today, but we will win.”
Conway said the former president is already unstable but added that there’s a way to get even deeper under his skin: through his insecurities.
“The reason why he is the way he is, the reason why he is this pathological narcissist, is because he’s deeply insecure,” Conway said. “He knows that he’s a fraud. He knows he’s not as smart as he says he is, he knows he’s not as good as he says he is, he knows he’s a rapist, he knows he’s a liar.”
Conway said that when Trump is confronted with this reality, “he melts.”
Trump was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation last year, with the jury awarding writer E. Jean Carroll $5 million in damages. Last week he was ordered to pay an additional $83.3 million to Carroll for continuing to defame her.
Conway noted that Trump appeared in court Thursday and “put up this strong man act” while the jury watched.
But Conway pointed out that Trump “didn’t actually show up for the first trial, the one where he could’ve been cross-examined about what happened in that department store, because he’s scared.”
Carroll accused Trump of raping her in a dressing room at a Manhattan department store in 1996. Although the jury found him liable for sexual abuse, the judge later clarified that Trump ”‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’”
Conway: The reason why he is this pathological narcissist it’s because he’s deeply insecure, and he knows that he is a fraud. He knows he’s a rapist He knows he’s a liar pic.twitter.com/k3colah4Lw
Conway made a similar argument about Trump’s Achilles’ heel earlier in the day during an appearance on “Morning Joe” as he urged GOP presidential rival Nikki Haley and President Joe Biden to “call out the crazy” when it comes to Trump.
“He’s had three years of basically being off the stage, and people have forgotten how absolutely, positively mentally disordered this man is,” Conway said. “And the more you talk about that in particular, the crazier it makes him.”
He said Trump’s relatives may want to bring him to a neurologist over his cognitive health, but he added “that’s not really the problem” when it comes to his bid to return to the White House.
“What makes him dangerous is he’s a narcissistic sociopath, a narcissistic psychopath, a malignant narcissist, and has always been that,” he said.
“If he were a relative of mine and saying some of the things he’s saying, confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi…I’d drag him to the nearest Neurologist. But that is not really the problem with him.
In an earlier case, a separate jury concluded that Trump had sexually abused Carroll in a Manhattan department store during the 1990s, then defamed her character when she went public with the accusation. Carroll was awarded $5 million in damages, but the former president described the verdict as part of “the greatest witch hunt of all time.” Trump continued to criticize Carroll publicly, after which the New York writer launched a second defamation case initially seeking an additional $10 million.
On Friday, Trump was instructed to pay Carroll an additional $18.3 million in compensation along, with $65 million in punitive damages. Reacting to the judgment on X, formerly Twitter, Carroll shared a New York Times article about her victory and wrote: “ELATION!!!!”
Trump expressed his anger at the court’s decision on his Truth Social website, posting: “Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party.” He added: “Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!”
The full court judgement can be read below:
The two-page court judgment shows that the jury concluded Carroll “suffered more than nominal damages” from defamatory statements Trump made on June 21 to 22, 2019. The jury awarded $11 million “for the reputation repair program only” and an additional $7.3 million in damages “other than for the reputation repair program.”
The jury also found that when making his comments Trump “acted maliciously, out of hatred, ill will, or spite, vindictively, or in wanton, reckless, or willful disregard for of Ms. Carroll’s rights,” for which he was ordered to pay $65 million in punitive damages.
Habba said: “No. No. I’m glad you asked me that question. No, I’m not having any second thoughts about representing President Trump. It is the proudest thing I could ever do.
“I have not spoken because I respect my ethics while I’m on trial,” Habba added. “But let me now speak now about what has happened. I have sat on trial after trial for months in this state, the State of New York, Attorney General Letitia James and now this. Why? Because President Trump is leading in the polls and now we see what you get in New York.”
Former U.S. President Donald Trump leaving Trump Tower for Manhattan federal court to attend his defamation trial in New York on January 26, 2024. The 2024 Republican presidential frontrunner was ordered to pay an additional… Former U.S. President Donald Trump leaving Trump Tower for Manhattan federal court to attend his defamation trial in New York on January 26, 2024. The 2024 Republican presidential frontrunner was ordered to pay an additional $83.3 million in compensation and damages.
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U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan clashed repeatedly with Habba during the trial, at one point threatening to send her to jail if she didn’t sit down.
Trump could be banned for life from the New York retail-estate industry after a judge concluded he engaged in fraud by exaggerating the value of his assets to secure more favorable bank loans and tax arrangements. He strongly denies any wrongdoing.
The 2024 Republican presidential frontrunner is also facing charges in four separate cases over allegations he orchestrated the payment of hush money to a pornographic actress; mishandled classified documents; and broke the law attempting to overturn the 2020 presidential election result, both nationwide and in the state of Georgia specifically. He has pled not guilty to all counts and insists the cases against him are politically motivated.
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The E. Jean Carroll verdict was so bad for Trump that Sean Hannity pretended like it didn’t exist and didn’t defend the former president on his Fox News show.
Instead of talking about E. Jean Carroll, Sean Hannity featured Rick Perry, who talked about the border and how Democrats are flipping and joining the Republican Party.
Perry said on the same day that a jury ruled that Trump must pay Carroll more than $83 million, “Texans aren’t going to put up with it. They are standing up and doing what is right. I hope that it doesn’t turn into anything worse than just being put out. But the other thing that will happen is Texas is going to become a substantially more red state than it is. Those Hispanics, historically Democrats along the border, are saying what this administration is doing, and they will walk away from the Democrat party and say no more. We’ve had it with you and we will join the party that’s rule of law and it believes in keeping our country safe and sound and economically viable. ”
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Sean Hannity doesn’t mention E. Jean Carroll but instead talks to Rick Perry, who proclaims the party with a rapist as its leader is switching Democrats who are saying, “We’ve had it with you, and we will join the party that’s of the rule of law.” pic.twitter.com/yg7tgsRN5q
Hannity also featured newly minted convict Peter Navarro and even Lara Trump on his show, but E. Jean Carroll and the damages were never mentioned.
Sean Hannity will spend hours defending Trump on anything and everything, but he didn’t want to talk about the Republican nominee being a rapist and owing the woman that he was found liable for assaulting more than $83 million for defaming her.
The fact that Hannity ignored the story suggests that it is terrible news for Trump.
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A federal New York jury deliberated for fewer than three hours Friday before ordering former President Donald Trump to pay $83.3 million in damages to writer E. Jean Carroll for defamatory statements he made about her in 2019. A previous jury last year had already found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation of Carroll. Errol Barnett has the latest.
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Supporters of former President Donald Trump and his Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement took to social media to express their outrage over Friday’s verdict ordering Trump to pay $83.3 million in damages to E. Jean Carroll.
“Pres Trump was denied a fair trial in NY where judges are now political activist [sic] instead of delivering justice!” Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican and vocal ally of Trump, wrote on X, formerly Twitter, after the verdict.
Greene’s sentiment was echoed by many members of the MAGA community following the jury’s decision that Trump must pay the hefty sum to Carroll, who accused the former president of defaming her reputation as a journalist by denying he raped her in the mid-1990s.
Carroll claims Trump forcibly groped and then raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman department store in Manhattan nearly three decades ago. Trump has denied any wrongdoing and has claimed that he had never heard of Carroll prior to her legal action against him.
“Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party,” Trump said in a statement after the verdict was announced. “Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!”
Former President Donald Trump is seen wearing a Make American Great Again (MAGA) cap at Trump National Golf Club on August 13, 2023, in Bedminster, New Jersey. Supporters of Trump’s MAGA movement flooded social media… Former President Donald Trump is seen wearing a Make American Great Again (MAGA) cap at Trump National Golf Club on August 13, 2023, in Bedminster, New Jersey. Supporters of Trump’s MAGA movement flooded social media to express their rage at the verdict ordering Trump to pay $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll.
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“The court ruled that Donald Trump is not guilty of rape in the case of E. Jean Carroll. Yet, the same court still ordered Trump to pay the lunatic woman $83.3 million,” conservative commentator Benny Johnson said on X. “Another example of how the government has been weaponized against Donald Trump in attempt to ruin the man.”
As Johnson referenced, a different jury in May found Trump liable for sexually abusing Carroll and awarded her $5 million but rejected her claim that she was raped.
“She has no evidence he assaulted her. He never even met her. But when he proclaimed his innocence, she sued him & won $80+ million dollars. The machine is trying to stop Trump at all costs. But it won’t work,” right-wing social media personality Rogan O’Handley, also known as “DC Draino,” posted on X.
NY changed their laws specifically to allow Jean Carroll to sue Trump
She has no evidence he assaulted her
He never even met her
But when he proclaimed his innocence, she sued him & won $80+ million dollars
Conservative activist Laura Loomer called the verdict “insanely unjust,” while other MAGA supporters shared clips of Trump attorney Alina Habba‘s fiery denunciation of the jury’s verdict.
JUST IN: Donald Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba goes off in fiery statement after Trump was ordered to pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million.
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Habba quickly shot back at a journalist who asked if she regrets her decision to represent Trump.
Trump’s verdict was also criticized by at least one public figure not widely associated with MAGA, former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich.
Although Blagojevich still identified as a Democrat as recently as 2022, he has previously spoken fondly of Trump, who commuted the former governor’s federal prison sentence. (Blagojevich was convicted of 17 charges, including wire fraud and conspiracy to solicit bribes, and impeached by his state’s legislature.)
“I learned the hard way you can’t trust the courts. Today’s verdict against Trump for exercising free speech shows how political & broken our courts have become,” Blagojevich wrote on X. “To quote Taylor Swift, ‘the liars and the dirty, dirty cheats of the world’ continue to be unjustly rewarded.”
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Trump’s first response to a jury awarding E. Jean Carroll more than $83 million is to blame President Joe Biden for his defamation.
Trump posted Truth Social, “Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party. Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!”
Yes, this is America. In America, people can’t abuse their positions of power to smear and defame others.
Trump’s conspiracy theories and cries of witch hunt play well with the MAGAs, but polling has shown that the rest of Republicans and the country aren’t buying it.
Donald Trump’s only strategy is to try to twist each piece of legal bad news to fit the political narrative of his presidential campaign, but E. Jean Carroll got some justice today. Money and verdicts can’t make Trump’s rape go away or restore her reputation, which Trump has harmed, but it can send a message to people like the former president that there are consequences for even his words and actions.
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During the second defamation case brought by writer E. Jean Carroll against former President Donald Trump, his attorney drew attention to one of her books — a little-known 1980s work called “Female Difficulties: Sorority Sisters, Rodeo Queens, Frigid Women, Smut Stars and Other Modern Girls.”
Trump lawyer Alina Habba asked Carroll in court last week to explain the title of her book, a collection of essays, with the attorney trying to show that the writer had once written about “smut stars,” according to Business Insider. The line of questioning went nowhere, with the judge sustaining an objection from Carroll’s attorney.
But the mention of Carroll’s book during the closely watched trial has had one tangible result: Used copies of the book are now fetching thousands of dollars. On Friday morning, a used copy of “Female Difficulties” was listed for about $2,141 on used book site AbeBooks, but by Friday afternoon the book was no longer available. Another copy was available on Amazon for $999.99. Bibio is selling a copy for $199.
E. Jean Carroll’s essay collection “Female Difficulties” was listing for $2,141 on AbeBooks on Friday, Jan. 26, 2024.
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Mention of the book during the trial prompted New Yorker writer Emily Nussbaum to buy a copy and tweet about the book, which at the time was blurbed by author Hunter Thompson, who called her a “wild writer,” and novelist Richard Price (“extremely funny and slightly frightening.”)
“I heard this book from 1985 came up in court last week, so I bought it and I’m reading it and it’s *GREAT*,” she tweeted on Tuesday. “Got it online for $80, well worth it.”
I heard this book from 1985 came up in court last week, so I bought it and I’m reading it and it’s *GREAT* pic.twitter.com/BUKSnWldK8
Carroll is better known today for her legal battles with Trump, but she built a career on providing advice to women through her “Ask E. Jean” column in Elle magazine. Her 2019 nonfiction book, “What Do We Need Men For?: A Modest Proposal,” was called an “entertaining and rage-making romp of a read” by The Guardian.
That book also detailed her alleged sexual assault by Trump in a dressing room in the 1990s, with Carroll writing that she encountered Trump at the Bergdorf Goodman department store when he asked for advice on a gift for “a girl.” Carroll said they ended up in the lingerie department, where Trump allegedly coerced her into a dressing room and sexually assaulted her.
Trump denied her allegations, claiming he had never met her. That led to Carroll filing a defamation lawsuit against him. In May 2023, a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation in a separate case, awarding Carroll $5 million in damages.
The current defamation case is focused on comments Trump made in 2019, which a judge has already ruled were defamatory. The proceedings are to determine the damages Carroll should receive, with her attorneys seeking $10 million for reputational harm and other unspecified punitive damages.
Still, not all of Carroll’s books are getting the same boost. Copies of “What Do We Need Men For?” are available on Amazon for as little as $3.51 a copy.
Aimee Picchi is the associate managing editor for CBS MoneyWatch, where she covers business and personal finance. She previously worked at Bloomberg News and has written for national news outlets including USA Today and Consumer Reports.
The jury in former President Donald Trump’s defamation damages trial in New York is now deliberating. Jury members will determine how much, if any, Trump will have to pay writer E. Jean Carroll for defamatory statements he made after she accused him of sexual assault. CBS News investigative reporter Graham Kates has more.
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An anonymous federal jury has begun weighing how much money, if any, former President Donald Trump must pay the writer E. Jean Carroll for a pair of defamatory statements he made about her in 2019, when he denied sexually assaulting her in the 1990s.
The jury got the case after both sides presented their closing arguments on Friday, which grew contentious at several points. Trump walked out of the courtroom as Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan was delivering her remarks, shortly before she asked the jury to award Carroll at least $24 million in damages.
The defamation case is the second Carroll has filed against Trump. The judge overseeing the trial has already ruled that Carroll was telling the truth about the assault, and that Trump’s statements denying her claims were defamatory. The jury is tasked with deciding what damages Carroll is entitled to receive.
Carroll’s closing argument
Kaplan was about 10 minutes into her closing argument on Friday when Trump, who was seated at the defense table, got up and exited the room.
Before he left, Kaplan repeatedly told the jury that he sexually assaulted Carroll, prompting the former president to shake his head. She then moved on to Trump’s repeated defamatory statements, and said that “typically when people are held liable for false and defamatory lies, they stop.”
“He continued to defame Ms. Carroll even as this trial was ongoing,” Kaplan said.
An artist’s sketch of former President Donald Trump walking out of a federal courtroom in New York as an attorney for E. Jean Carroll presents her closing argument on Friday, Jan. 26, 2024.
Jane Rosenberg
Kaplan — who is not related to Lewis Kaplan, the judge overseeing the case — asked the jury to award Carroll at least $24 million in compensatory damages, as well as punitive damages severe enough to “make him stop” defaming her client.
Kaplan walked the jury through the first statements Trump made in 2019, and the many times he has repeated his claims — that he’s ever met Carroll, that she isn’t his “type,” that he didn’t assault her and that the case is a “hoax” — since then, including some as recently as this week.
“Those false denials and attacks continued while you were in this courtroom … while you were sitting in those seats,” Kaplan said, before showing a clip of a press conference Trump held last week, when he again lashed out at Carroll.
Then she showed a recent Truth Social post in which Trump promised to deny the allegations “a thousand times.”
“A thousand times, are you kidding me?” Kaplan said. “He’s prepared to do it 1,000 times unless you make him stop.”
Kaplan finished by pointing out that Trump didn’t attend the first trial, when the question of whether he sexually abused Carrol was put before the jury, but did appear for these proceedings, when damages were at stake.
“The one thing that Donald Trump does care about is money,” she said.
Trump’s closing argument
Alina Habba, Trump’s attorney, presented the closing argument for the defense, with Trump back in the courtroom.
She focused on what she called a “five-hour gap” in 2019 between when Carroll’s allegations first surfaced and Trump’s first defamatory statement. Habba said Carroll hadn’t proved “causation” between Trump’s statement and the ensuing harassment Carroll received.
Habba focused on a portion of Carroll’s testimony when she described the first night she began receiving threats. She testified that she hung up pants over a hotel window out of fear.
“She didn’t call the police, but she hung up pants,” Habba said. “She didn’t tell anyone, but she hung up pants.”
Habba continued: “There are two versions of E. Jean Carroll: The truth, which her friend knew and testified about, and the one who comes to court to get my client’s money.”
She once again cited statements and text messages in which Carroll said she was feeling “fabulous” and “buoyant” after her allegations were made public.
Given the chance to offer a rebuttal, Carroll’s attorney Shawn Crowley repeatedly pointed directly at Trump, while saying he sexually assaulted Carroll and lied about it.
At one point, Trump turned to watch Crowley, glaring, with his arms folded. As she continued speaking, often pointing at him, he grew more animated, shaking his head and grimacing.
“They want you to decide that it’s Ms. Carroll’s fault, that somehow Donald Trump is a victim,” Crowley said, as Trump seemed to nod his head.
“The man who did these things to her, the man who sexually assaulted her, he gets to do whatever he wants,” Crowley said. “The rules don’t apply to him,” she added, before encouraging the jury, once again, to reach a verdict that will “make him stop.”
Graham Kates is an investigative reporter covering criminal justice, privacy issues and information security for CBS News Digital. Contact Graham at KatesG@cbsnews.com or grahamkates@protonmail.com
Former President Donald Trump took the witness stand Thursday for about four minutes in the defamation trial brought by writer E. Jean Carroll. Trump has already been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation of Carroll in a previous trial. This trial is to determine what damages Carroll should be awarded. Errol Barnett has more.
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