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  • Jennifer Lawrence speaks out after Kourtney Kardashian remark makes news

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    Jennifer Lawrence recently opened up about her past comments where she called Kourtney Kardashian “annoying” on a podcast.

    Today, the Hunger Games star, renowned for her dead-pan humor and quick-wit, appeared on Amy Poehler‘s Golden Globe-winning podcast, Good Hang, for a fun conversation.

    In the episode, Poehler and Lawrence covered a wide range of topics including Lawrence’s incredible career, parenthood and an unforgettable Robert De Niro impression.

    Poehler began by explaining why she admires Lawrence, calling her a “woman’ who likes other women.”

    “You tell the real, real behind something like you talk about like ‘this was difficult’ or ‘I’m thinking about this’ […] I think when people stay mysterious it’s like a disservice to other women […] You do this thing that I really appreciate, that comes through which is you’re trying to be honest in real time and trying to connect,” she said.

    “I think that’s what women do for other women when they like women is the best way to say it.”

    She went on to discuss how Lawrence navigates sharing her personal life publicly while maintaining privacy.

    “I think that I when I do press, I should do half than what normal people do cause I see my quotes and they like they’re insane. Like, ‘Jennifer Lawrence calls Kourtney Kardashian annoying,’” Lawrence said.

    She then made hand gestures to indicate that the quotations are “too much,” then Poehler agreed: “It carries. But, first of all, honestly, it’s funny because it’s, you’re so funny. Thank you. And the third piece of the puzzle I’ll say is that you’re very, you feel like a real person. You’re very ironic.”

    In true Lawrence form, she interrupted with “erotic” and then Poehler joked the actor had her time on her knee beneath the table the entire time.

    The comments the No Hard Feelings star referenced were taken from a Vanity Fair video in November 2025. While promoting the film Die My Love, she and co-star Robert Pattinson took a lie detector test. During the test, Pattinson showed her a photo of Khloe Kardashian and asked if she was her favorite Kardashian, to which Lawrence replied “yes.”

    She elaborated on her feelings about Kourtney Kardashian: “Kourtney is more annoying than ever. She drives me nuts […] Because everything has to be an announcement. It’s like, you know, ‘I’m not gonna wear outfits anymore,’ like just wear whatever you want, don’t make an announcement about it.”

    The episode and Lawrence’s remarks sparked reactions from fans online.

    One YouTube commenter wrote: “Literally, JLaw had such a CAREER for someone at her age. Oscar winner at 22, four Oscar nominations at 25, three Golden Globes, BAFTA, Peabody, a production company, two multi-billion franchises. No actress comes close, to how big she was in the early 2010s.”

    Another fan praised the podcast’s relaxed format, writing: “I love how Amy’s podcast truly is, just a good hang. It’s not about being deep or serious, or about making jokes the whole time. It’s just a space to talk, get to know each other and if we can get a few laughs then great. There’s no real expectations or pressure on the interviewee and that’s why it works.”

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  • Oh James Cameron Is Still Big Mad at Amy Poehler, 12 Years Later

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    James Cameron is one of those directors I wish would stop speaking. The director of Avatar loves to share his thoughts an opinions on movies. And now he’s telling the world how angry he is that Amy Poehler joked about him 12 years ago. Not helping your case here, Jim.

    The joke came when Kathryn Bigelow, Cameron’s ex-wife, was nominated at the Golden Globes for her film Zero Dark Thirty. Poehler and co-host Tina Fey joked at the start of the ceremony, poking at the nominees and other filmmakers. The joke in question had Poehler saying “When it comes to torture, I trust the lady who spent three years married to James Cameron.”

    Now, 12 years later, Cameron is still mad about it. He was profiled by The New York Times for his film Avatar: Fire and Ash and brought up how he is “thick-skinned” but he’s still talking about something that happened a decade ago and was a joke at an award show. Cameron shared that he thought the joke was an “ignorant dig.”

    “Amy Poehler’s remark was an ignorant dig, at an event which is supposed to be a celebration of cinema and filmmakers, not a roast,” Cameron told The Times. “I’m pretty thick-skinned, and happy to be the butt of a good-natured joke, but that went too far. The fact that people found it funny shows exactly what they think of me, even though they have no idea who I am or how I work.”

    James Cameron Shares How He Still Supports Kathryn Bigelow

    The joke that Poehler made was never about the actual relationship between Bigelow and Cameron but rather the, at times, insufferable way Cameron speaks. This all happened prior to him missing the point on the Marvel Cinematic Universe and continually saying rude and nonsensical things about the franchise. Still, he made it clear that he is still supportive of Bigelow’s career.

    “I was the first one on my feet applauding,” Cameron said. “Kathryn and I thought the whole meta-narrative around us was pretty funny. I was a little concerned that it would just take away from her credibility as a filmmaker. It started to turn into a conversation that wasn’t about her film, and that bothered both of us.”

    All of that is well and good but the point, James Cameron, is that Poehler and Fey were simply making a joke about you. So Mr. Thick-skinned was too stuck on being called “torturous” to get over it.

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    Rachel Leishman (She/Her) is the Editor in Chief of the Mary Sue. She’s been a writer professionally since 2016 but was always obsessed with movies and television and writing about them growing up. A lover of Spider-Man and Wanda Maximoff’s biggest defender, she has interests in all things nerdy and a cat named Benjamin Wyatt the cat. If you want to talk classic rock music or all things Harrison Ford, she’s your girl but her interests span far and wide. Yes, she knows she looks like Florence Pugh. She has multiple podcasts, normally has opinions on any bit of pop culture, and can tell you can actors entire filmography off the top of her head. Her current obsession is Glen Powell’s dog, Brisket.

    Her work at the Mary Sue often includes Star Wars, Marvel, DC, movie reviews, and interviews.

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  • Amy Poehler and Maya Hawke Believe ‘Inside Out 2’ Is a Billion Dollars That Actually Did Some Good for the World

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    Maya Hawke joined her Inside Out 2 co-star Amy Poehler on the latter’s podcast Good Hang in a special sit-down where the duo discussed the movie’s billion-dollar impact.

    Hawke played Anxiety in the Pixar sequel, and the character became an instant fan favorite, representing a new emotion that popped up as part of Riley’s coming-of-age journey. Joy (Poehler) and the rest of Riley’s more familiar emotions, meanwhile, had to grapple with their kid’s growth and impending teenagerhood in the film.

    Inside Out 2 won so many hearts and filled movie theaters right when the industry—and seemingly the world at large—needed it the most. Hawke described the success of Inside Out 2 as a welcome surprise, “for something that makes a billion dollars and is good for the world; I don’t think there’s anything that does that.”

    Poehler added, “The word ‘billion’ and ‘good for the world’ [don’t] go together.”

    The duo attributed Inside Out 2‘s massive success to how its creative team focused on the multitudes a person can hold during adolescence, when so many things can feel so uncertain. However, anyone of any age can relate to holding space for a mix of feelings, as Hawke explained.

    “The Joy-Anxiety relationship taught me a lot about showing love to that part of myself and allowing other people to see it so they can show it love,” she said. “A way to calm [your anxiety] down is inviting it into the conversation, looking at what it thinks and is worried about, and kind of addressing each point, and then offering it a comfortable chair and saying, ‘OK, you’re invited. I’m not trying to shut you out behind a door.’ Because that just works it up even more. The biggest thing I learned from doing this and being allowed to be welcomed into the beautiful world of this movie is to give my anxiety a comfy chair. I mean, anxiety might be the defining emotion of our time.”

    Poehler agreed. “It was so fun to work on those characters together, because when the time is very scary, like these times, you want to find a way to tune in, check out, help yourself, and help other people. Like, you want to dip in and out. But when you’re just going, like, ‘toxic positivity,’ like, ‘this is great,’ it’s like, ‘Babe, things are bad. Things are real bad.’”

    Hawke supplied, “Yes, then you still need to welcome in some [joy]. You’re not helping anybody if you shut out joy completely.”

    Poehler pointed to a specific moment that resonated with her in Inside Out 2. “Riley, our character, has calmed herself down on the ice. She’s talked to her friends. She’s feeling a little bit like herself. She gets back on the ice. She starts skating. And Joy is being called back. And Anxiety does a little gesture of like ‘[right] this way.’ … It made me cry so hard. And I just thought, ‘Oh, like the tiny gesture of that is like what we must try to do during this bananas foster time we’re living in.  Because that is whatever we can do, babe—to make room for each other.”

    Watch the rest of the interview below:

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  • Saturday Night Live Recap: Amy Poehler Is a Great Hang

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    The veteran cast member is the perfect host to get the season back on track with an episode full of throwback sketches and fun cameos.
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    After a rocky premiere, Saturday Night Live needed to give us some reassurance that season 51 (and the newest permutation of the cast) wouldn’t be all duds. Enter Amy Poehler, a reliable (but not overused) choice to anchor a confident episode. No disrespect to Bad Bunny, who has his charms in this format, but he isn’t a sketch performer like Poehler. It’s only fitting that she host the show on the 50th anniversary of its first-ever episode.

    Poehler isn’t here to promote a new movie or show. If anything, she’s here because of Good Hang with Amy Poehler, her podcast that took off earlier this year. “That’s right, I am a podcaster now, and if that’s not a recession indicator, I don’t know what is,” she joked self-deprecatingly during a short, pleasant monologue, reminiscing about her early days of watching SNL and picking a fight with AI “actress” Tilly Norwood. Poehler brought that warm energy to the whole episode, no matter the quality of the actual jokes.

    I very much approve of the choice to give Poehler new characters to play, rather than reviving old sketches for nostalgia. (We got enough of that last year.) These are basically all new roles or twists on old types, taking advantage of Poehler’s skill at embodying strong, often spunky personalities. The intentionally old-fashioned Rudemans sketch is nothing to write home about — the general premise has been done to death — but she and Sarah Sherman in particular stand out as Ashley Padilla’s passive-aggressive mother and grandmother. “I’ll get the landline we randomly still have?” she says while answering the phone.

    This was a fairly star-studded episode, starting with Tina Fey’s appearances in both the cold open and Weekend Update (joined by Seth Meyers). Poehler’s bratty Pam Bondi starts the episode off on a decent note, likening Amy Klobuchar’s name to a Pokémon during a Senate Judiciary Committee session, but it’s Fey’s impressively scary-looking Kristi Noem who draws the biggest laughs, mostly through references to killing her pet dog (“Dogs don’t just get shot. Heroes shoot them”). Low-hanging fruit? Probably. But it works.

    Then Aubrey Plaza reunited with her Parks & Recreation co-star for the Hunting Wives season two trailer, which amusingly plays on the show’s conservative lesbian contradictions. And Charli XCX showed up to silently dance around as the latest “Sally” in the first of Role Model’s summery, inoffensive performances. SNL can’t get by on cameos alone, but these enlivened a solid episode that bodes well for the show’s ability to turn out the same decent if unspectacular material this season.

    Here are the highlights:

    Sometimes realizing you’re in for a one-joke sketch actually makes it better, and that’s the case with this one. (It’s technically a parody of the medium Sylvia Browne, for those who remember — I stumbled upon a clip of hers on Instagram just the other day, and the similarities are striking.) Everything gets funnier when you realize Miss Lycus isn’t going to offer any deeper insight than “he’s dead” to her legions of desperate and grieving fans. But some of the twists are pretty funny, from the first “He drowned until he died” to “He drowned, but he’s still alive. What’s dead is your marriage.” Most of the audience doesn’t even seem to mind.

    Poehler’s girlboss corporate manager insists on closing a big deal for the firm while nine months pregnant, switching rapidly between business mode and childbirth mode when her water breaks. Fun to see Ben Marshall as her doula, even if I’m not completely out of the habit of scanning the background for the other Please Don’t Destroy guys.

    Colin Jost and Michael Che kept up their usual playfully antagonistic rapport this episode, with Che inserting Jost into the background of some famous Trump-Epstein footage using Sora. Sarah Sherman got some good material as concerned Long Island citizen Rhonda LaCenzo, worried about sharia law under likely incoming mayor Zohran Mamdani — or, rather, “shari-er lore,” in her accent — but the character is most amusing for her tics, like the bunched-up shoulders and constant offers for coffee. “Coffee, Che?”

    Of course, the most notable segment is the Weekend Update Joke Off, where former long-tenured anchors Poehler, Fey, and Meyers joined Jost and Che to riff about the 13-pound baby born in Tennessee. Not all of the jokes are laugh-worthy, but it’s just great to watch this group hang out, especially with the various improvised buzzer noises. I wouldn’t have minded them trading off for the whole Update.

    Possibly the best of the night? Poehler does typically good work as the mustachioed, hairy-armed attorney Lachlan Mulchburger, but the real beauty of this sketch is the steady escalation of the one-upmanship in the paid advertisement game, with different injury attorneys arguing they have the most combined experience. It really takes off with the clones reveal — five Billsons and five Liebermans — and reaches its apex at the conclusion with Yang’s appearance as Yggdrasil, the sacred tree, who had Zeus as a client.

    Poehler gets mileage out of another one-joke premise, dressed up like your archetypal emo teenager but whining about very adult concerns like raising kids, taking care of aging parents, and a forgotten Etsy password. The brief transition to professional and back for a phone call (she’s the superintendent) is a highlight.

    • “Two years ago, I was on the show, and you told me my brother was drowned but alive and thriving in Florida.”

    • Good spokesman work from Andrew Dismukes in the ad for non-alcoholic beer that morphs into an ad for 96% ABV non-non-alcoholic beer.

    • Jeremy Culhane also makes a good showing this week. I’m less convinced of Tommy Brennan so far.

    • Gotta love the review from A.I. Scott, “the robot now doing reviews for The New York Times.”

    • Apparently Jost’s family has been celebrating National German-American Day “ever since they hastily moved here in 1945.” The use of “hastily” singlehandedly made me laugh here.

    • Grant and Alyssa, aka the couple you can’t believe are together, appear on Update to talk about cuffing season and Halloween. “I’ll be going as Sylvia Plath, because it’s the one day of the year that you can dress like a slut” is in contention for line of the night.

    • YggDrasil: Injury Attorney, Time Is An Illusion, We Are Shadows.

    • There are some funny moments in the theme songs masterclass ending sketch, particularly the first Severance rap and the later reversal with a somber instrumental version of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme song. Bowen Yang’s corporal punishment-obsessed composer is more memorable than Poehler, and the sketch sputters to a close, but it gets the job done.

    • Nice to see the photo of Diane Keaton pop up before goodnights. If you weren’t already aware, Ashley Padilla used to be Keaton’s assistant, so it must’ve been a tough day for her — and she did great work in this episode! Hopefully the show will continue slotting her into the roles that would’ve gone to Heidi Gardner and Ego Nwodim. She’s still only a featured player, but it feels like she’s on a different tier from the others.

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  • Seth Meyers, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler Crash Weekend Update on ‘SNL’ For ‘Joke Off’ About an Enormous Baby

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    “Saturday Night Live” Weekend update hosts Colin Jost and Michael Che saw their desk crashed by former anchors Seth Meyers, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler for a “Joke Off.”

    The trio stopped by to riff on a woman at a Tennessee hospital who broke a record by giving birth to a 13-pound baby. Some of the jokes included:

    *”The baby was so big he slapped the doctor on his ass.”

    *”Did she give birth or did the baby drive out?”

    *”She broke the hospital’s record and then she broke off her husband’s penis to make sure it never happens again.”

    Poehler was the episode’s host, and Fey also popped in during the night’s cold open playing Kristi Noem.

    The returning trio spent plenty of time hosting Weekend Update, as Fey was behind the desk with Jimmy Fallon from 2000–2004, with Fey and Poehler taking over from 2004–2006, and Poehler and Meyers helming the segment from 2006–2008. Meyers then hosted the segment solo from 2008–2013.

    Elsewhere in Update, Jost and Che took shots at Arby’s (“Arby’s announced that they’re adding a new item to their menu, Steak Nuggets. Although you can make your own Steak Nuggets by eating a bunch of Arby’s.”), Gen Z (“A growing number of Gen Z men are moving back in with their parents, taking over household chores and calling themselves ‘trad sons,’ replacing the old name, ‘failures.’”) and Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (“RFK said this week that men who were circumcised are more likely to be autistic, which isn’t surprising coming from a man who looks like he’s made out of foreskin.”)

    Watch the Joke Off below.

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  • Inside Out As Anti-San Francisco Movie

    Inside Out As Anti-San Francisco Movie

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    With the imminent release of Inside Out 2, revisiting the original film is only natural. As it is to note that, long before the blatant anti-San Francisco campaign that rolled out at full force after the pandemic, Inside Out was throwing major shade at the place once called “the Paris of the West” (this as a means of alluring people to it at a time when it was still developing as an urban epicenter). Considering that Pixar’s headquarters are in Emeryville (effectively an “extension” of San Francisco), it comes as no surprise that the movie would take place there. What is perhaps something of a surprise is the number of moments in the film that seek to denigrate rather than elevate the city. But you know what they say: it’s always your own kind that ends up selling you down the river (if one will pardon the rooted-in-slavery expression).

    As “alpha emotion” Joy (Amy Poehler) spends the first few minutes of Inside Out detailing the inner workings of Riley Andersen’s (Kaitlyn Dias) mind, it doesn’t take long before her vision of the eleven-year-old’s happy, idyllic existence in Minnesota is shattered. In fact, the Andersen family’s unexpected move to San Francisco is already happening within the eight-minute mark of the movie, with the title “Inside Out” only appearing just as the Andersens approach the Golden Gate Bridge. It’s upon seeing it from the backseat of the car that, from Riley’s mind, Joy shouts, “Hey look! The Golden Gate Bridge! Isn’t that great? It’s not made out of solid gold like we thought, which is kind of a disappointment, but still…”

    The next recognizable landmark as the car continues toward their new house is the Ferry Building, with Fear (Bill Hader) remarking to Joy as they pass it, “I sure am glad you told me earthquakes are a myth, Joy. Otherwise I’d be terrified right now.” Joy replies, “Uh, yeah.” So already, there is this overt mood of disdain for the city, further fueled by a preteen’s inherent mistrust of the things they’re not familiar with. Any brief “romance” period with the town via the Golden Gate Bridge and the Ferry Building seems to quickly wear off by the third scene in the city, during which Riley and her parents are caught in bumper-to-bumper traffic on the famed part of Lombard Street known as “the crookedest street in the world.”

    To further emphasize that San Francisco must be a miserable place, it is only Anger (Lewis Black) who chimes in at the sound of incessantly blaring horns and belligerent screaming to say, “These are my kind of people.” Of course, Anger’s vaguely positive tune, along with Disgust’s (Mindy Kaling) and Fear’s (Sadness [Phyllis Smith] was already firmly not into this to begin with), changes instantly when the car pulls up in front of a “dilapidated” townhouse. That’s right, the family is about to move into a townhouse that would fetch millions of dollars in any San Francisco neighborhood, regardless of being in a “dingy alley” or not. And yet, Riley is acting as though it’s the worst place in the world. “Too young,” or whatever, to understand “appreciating property values.” Especially since it seems like Mr. Andersen (Kyle MacLachlan) and Mrs. Andersen (Diane Lane) actually bought the place instead of renting. No matter to Riley, who has apparently been too sheltered for most of her sanitized life to have ever seen a dead mouse. This being one of her first sights upon entering the spacious abode. 

    But spaciousness doesn’t matter if her room isn’t “conventionally structured,” instead situated in more of an “attic” position—this being a clear machination on the writers’ part designed to give Riley some “poor little scullery maid” cachet. Despite Joy’s best intentions to keep Riley in a positive mood in the face of her “undesirable” living conditions, they’re met with another decidedly “San Francisco-style” setback when Joy tries to distract Riley with the idea of going to lunch. Flashing the image of the pizza place (Yeast of Eden) she saw on the car ride over, Joy plants the seed in Riley’s mind that she’s just hungry. That’s the real reason why she’s irritable. Or worse still, sad

    Thus, to be presented with, apparently, a decidedly San Francisco approach to pizza—a.k.a. the appearance of broccoli on it—is the last straw for Riley, who is now officially out of any will to put on rose-colored glasses about this move. Because yes, in addition to having poor taste in housing (or rather, poor taste in understanding what good housing is), she also has a gauche Minnesotan palate that can’t accept anything “unconventional” on a pizza. Alas, considering that broccoli has held a lifelong negative association for her (thanks to Disgust), seeing it on her pizza is “too much” for her. Her mom doesn’t help Riley’s outlook on the “tragedy” either, shrugging, “What kind of pizza place only serves one kind of pizza? Must be a San Francisco thing, huh?”

    Even Joy—who usually refuses to see the negative side of anything—has to agree, demanding, “Who puts broccoli on pizza?” Anger then snarls, “Congratulations San Francisco, you’ve ruined pizza! First the Hawaiians, and now you.” Obviously, it’s a pointed comment not just on the supposedly inferior pizza San Francisco has to offer, but also on the generally “chichi” (ergo, overpriced) fare residents are subjected to in the wake of gentrification on steroids.

    And, speaking of that, Mr. Andersen’s fraught phone call about needing to find investors before they have to start laying people off smacks of being the kind of odious “tech guy” (one will refrain from saying “tech bro”) that SF has become irrevocably synonymous with. Hence, yet another unfavorable impression of the city in terms of “the man it’s making her father become”—absent, distant and impatient. Worse still, an ungrateful gentrifier.

    Riley’s anxiety levels are further sent into overdrive by the effect the move is having on her parents’ relationship, which is becoming…tense. Something she never saw between them before. But, again, her lily-livered, privileged existence seems to make her more prone to such sensitivity over very little. Including the sound of noisy cars that also cast “ominous” shadows on her wall from outside the window. Fear’s response to it is a terrified, nonsensical wondering as to whether it might be a bear. “There are no bears in San Francisco,” Disgust balks at Fear (though that’s not really true, thanks to the increased presence of black bears leaving their natural habitat). Anger chimes in, “I saw a really hairy guy. He looked like a bear.” Somehow, that feels like a “subtle” nod to the Castro…for those who get it. 

    Naturally, though, the Emeryville-based Pixar team isn’t counting on the average audience being “in the know” about San Francisco…apart from embracing the tired stereotypes about it as a place of “horrors” (a.k.a. real life), a place to avoid. And, soon enough, a place to run away from. For, without Joy and Sadness—the “alphas” of the emotional “headquarters”—Anger, Fear and Disgust try their best to fill the void where leadership is. The result, expectedly, is all-out emotional dysregulation, with Riley giving in to the whim of assuming that going back to Minnesota without telling her parents is the best way to find happiness again. Luckily, Joy and Sadness make it back to headquarters in time to correct the situation, with Joy allowing Sadness, at last, to take the reins (as she should have from the start of this move). 

    When Riley returns from her botched attempt at running away, she finally admits to her parents, “I miss Minnesota.” The funny thing, of course, is that if she had stayed in said state, she likely would have tried to move to California anyway after graduating from high school. Minnesotans are always seeking warmer weather, which, of course, exists literally anywhere else except Minnesota. And Midwesterners in general are always seeking “freakier” pastures (see: Chappell Roan). But since Minnesota represents “home” to her, and her home isn’t a place she yet associates with oppression and conservative values, San Francisco is pretty much the last place she would want to be. As such, Anger is so fed up with the “antithetical” ways of life in “The Golden City” that he finally snaps and calls it “San Fran Stink Town” as he takes the wheel on “reasoning” by planting the idea in Riley’s head that they should just take a bus back to Minnesota. Which, of course, Riley can’t go through with. 

    At the end of Inside Out, it isn’t that Riley has “warmed” to SF, per se, so much as surrendered to the reality that he who controls the purse strings (i.e., one’s parents) controls your living situation. Even so, perhaps in Inside Out 2, Riley will have come to understand the value, as a “too cool for everything” teen, of living in a more sophisticated metropolis (though the naysayers will keep mentioning homeless people as a reason it’s not) than whatever bumfuck town in Minnesota she crawled out of. Maybe Bloomington (home to the Mall of America), like Inside Out’s director and co-writer, Pete Docter.

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  • Gen Z Is to Cady Heron as Millennials Are to Regina George, Or: Does Mean Girls 2024 Make Gen Z the New Queen Bee? Hardly.

    Gen Z Is to Cady Heron as Millennials Are to Regina George, Or: Does Mean Girls 2024 Make Gen Z the New Queen Bee? Hardly.

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    For those who applaud it, any contempt expressed for the latest iteration of Mean Girls is likely to be met with the ageist rebuke of how it’s probably because you’re a millennial (granted, some millennials might be enough of a traitor to their own birth cohort to lap up this schlock). As in: “Sorry you don’t like it, bitch, but it’s Gen Z’s turn now. You’re just jealous.” The thing is, there’s not anything to be jealous of here, for nothing about this film does much to truly challenge or reinvent the status quo of the original. Which, theoretically, should be the entire point of redoing a film. Especially a film that has been so significant to pop culture. And not just millennial pop culture, but pop culture as a whole. Mean Girls, indeed, has contributed an entire vocabulary and manner of speaking to the collective lexicon. Of course, reinventing the wheel might be the expectation if this was a truly new version. Instead, it is merely a translation of the Broadway musical that kicked off in the fall of 2017, right as another cultural phenomenon was taking shape: the #MeToo movement. 

    This alignment with the repackaging of Mean Girls as something that a new generation could latch onto and relate with seemed timely for the heralding of a new era that not only abhorred flagrant sexual abuse against women, but also anything unpleasant whatsoever. It quickly became clear that a lot of things could be branded as “unpleasant.” Even some of the most formerly minute “linguistic nuances.” This would soon end up extending to any form of “slut-shaming” or “body-shaming.” Granted, Fey was already onto slut-shaming being “over” when she tells the junior class in the original movie,  “You all have got to stop calling each other sluts and whores. It just makes it okay for guys to call you sluts and whores.” (They still seem to think it’s okay, by the way.)

    Having had such “foresight,” Fey was also game to update and tweak a lot of other “problematic” things. From something as innocuous as having Karen say that Gretchen gets diarrhea on a Ferris wheel instead of at a Barnes & Noble (clearly, not relevant enough anymore to a generation that gets any reading advice from “BookTok”) to removing dialogue like, “I don’t hate you because you’re fat. You’re fat because I hate you” to doing away entirely with that plotline about Coach Carr (now played by Jon “Don Draper” Hamm) having sexual relationships with underage girls.

    What Fey has always been super comfortable with (as most people have been), however, is ageist humor (she has plenty of anti-Madonna lines to that effect throughout 30 Rock). For example, rather than Gretchen (Bebe Wood) telling her friends that “fetch” is British slang like she does in 2004, she muses that she thinks she saw it in an “old movie,” “maybe Juno.” Because yes, everything and everyone is currently “old” in Gen Z land, though 2007 (the year of Juno’s release) was seventeen years ago, not seventy. This little dig at “old movies” is tantamount to that moment in 2005’s Monster-in-Law when Viola Fields (Jane Fonda) has to interview a pop star (very clearly modeled after Britney Spears) named Tanya Murphy (Stephanie Turner) for her talk show, Public Intimacy. Finding it difficult to relate to Tanya, Viola briefly brightens when the Britney clone says, “I love watching really old movies. They’re my favorite.” Viola nudges, “Really? Which ones?” Tanya then pulls a “Mean Girls 2024 Gretchen” by replying, “Well, um, Grease and Grease II. Um, Benji, I love Benji. Free Willy, um, Legally Blonde…uh The Little Mermaid.” By the time Tanya says Legally Blonde (four years “old” at the time of Monster-in-Law’s release), that’s about as much as Viola can take before she’s set off (though Tanya blatantly showcasing her lack of knowledge about Roe v. Wade is what, at last, prompts Viola’s physical violence). Angourie Rice, who plays a millennial in Senior Year, ought to have said something in defense of Juno, but here she’s playing the inherently ageist Gen Zer she is. Albeit a “geriatric” one who isn’t quite passing for high school student age. Not the way Rachel McAdams did at twenty-five while filming Mean Girls

    To that point, Lindsay Lohan was seventeen years old during the production and theater release of Mean Girls, while Angourie Rice was twenty-two (now twenty-three upon the movie’s theater release). Those five years make all the difference in lending a bit more, shall we say, authenticity to being a teenager. Mainly because, duh, Lohan was an actual teenager. And yes, 2004 was inarguably the height of her career success. Which is why she clings on to Mean Girls at every opportunity (complete with the Mean Girls x Wal-Mart commercial). Thus, it was no surprise to see her “cameo” by the end of the film, where she takes on the oh so significant role of Mathlete State Championship moderator, given a few notable lines (e.g., “Honey, I don’t know your life”—something that would have landed better coming from Samantha Jones) but largely serving as a reminder of how much better the original Mean Girls was and that the viewer is currently watching a dual-layered helping of, “Oh how the mighty have fallen.”

    While the musical angle is meant to at least faintly set the 2024 film edition apart from the original, it’s clear that Tina Fey, from her schizophrenic viewpoint as a Gen Xer, has trouble toeing the line between post-2017 “sensitivity” and maintaining the stinging tone of what was allowed by 2004 standards. Although Gen Z is known for being “bitchy” and speaking in a manner that echoes the internet-speak amalgam of gay men meets AAVE, any attempt at “biting cuntery” is in no way present at the same level it was in 2004’s Mean Girls. And a large part of that isn’t just because “you can’t say shit anymore,” but also because the meanness of the original Regina George is completely washed out and muted. This compounded by the fact that Reneé Rapp is emblematic of a more “body positive” Regina. In other words, she’s more zaftig than the expected Barbie shape of millennial Regina. Perhaps this is why any acerbic comments on Regina’s part about other people’s looks are noticeably lacking. For example, in the original, Regina tells Cady over the phone, in reference to Gretchen (Lacey Chabert), “Cady, she’s not pretty. I mean, that sounds bad, but whatever.” Regina might say the same of the downgraded looks of the Mean Girls cast as a whole… Let’s just say, gone are the days of the polish and glamor once present in teen movies. And yet, there is still nothing “real” about what’s presented here in Mean Girls 2024. Because, again, it struggles too much with the balancing act of trying to be au courant with the fact that it was created during a time when people (read: millennials) could withstand such patent “meanness.”

    In the climate of now, where bullying is all but a criminal offense resulting in severe punishment, Mean Girls no longer fits in the high school narrative of the present. This is something that the aforementioned Senior Year gets right when Stephanie (Rebel Wilson) returns to high school as thirty-seven-year-old and finds that Gen Z seems to care little about the rules of social hierarchy she knew so well as a teenage millennial. And the rules Regina George’s mom likely knew as well. Alas, Mrs. George becomes a pale imitation of Amy Poehler’s rendering, with Busy Philipps trying her best to make the role “frothy,” even when she warns Regina and co. to enjoy their youth because it will never get any better than it is right now for them (something Gen Z clearly believes based on an obsession with people being “old” that has never been seen to this extent before). The absence of her formerly blatant boob job also seems to be an arbitrary “fix” to the previous standards of beauty that were applauded and upheld in the Mean Girls of 2004 (hell, even the “fat girl” who sees Regina has gained some extra padding on her backside is the first to mock her by shouting in front of everyone, “Watch where you’re going, fat ass!”). 

    To boot, the curse of having to “update” things automatically entails the presence of previously unavailable technology. This, of course, takes away from the bombastic effect of Regina scattering photocopies of the Burn Book pages throughout the entire school, instead placing the book in the entry hallway to be “discovered.” And yes, the fact that the Gen Z Plastics would be using a tactile object such as this is given a one-line explanation by Regina when she asks if they made the book during the week their phones were taken away. Again proving how this “translation” doesn’t hold the same weight (no fat-shaming pun intended) or impact as before. 

    More vexingly still, without the indelible voiceovers from Cady, the movie becomes a hollow shell of itself, and not just because it’s now a musical lacking the punch of, at the very least, some particularly memorable lyrics (and no, “Not My Fault” playing in the credits isn’t much of a prime example of that either). And so, those who remember the gold standard of the original movie will have to settle for conjuring up the voiceovers themselves while watching (e.g., “I know it may look like I’d become a bitch, but that was only because I was acting like a bitch” and “I could hear people getting bored with me. But I couldn’t stop. It just kept coming up like word vomit”). But perhaps Fey felt that the “storytelling device” of  Janis ʻImi’ike (Auliʻi Cravalho)—formerly Janis Ian—and Damian Hubbard (Jaquel Spivey)—formerly just Damian—telling it through what is presumed to be a TikTok video (this, like Senior Year, mirroring a trope established by Easy A) would be enough to both “modernize” the movie (along with Cady being raised by a single mom instead of two married parents) and compensate for its current lack of signature voiceovers.

    Some might point out that there’s simply no room for voiceovers in a musical without making the whole thing too clunky. Which brings one to the question of why a musical version instead of a more legitimate reboot had to be made. Well, obviously, the answer is: money. Knowing that the same financial success of the musical would be secured by an effortless transition to film. One that ageistly promises in the trailer: “Not your mother’s Mean Girls.” Apart from the fact that it doesn’t deliver at all on any form of “raunch” that might be entailed by that tagline, as Zing Tsjeng of The Guardian pointed out, “Your mother’s? Tina Fey’s teen comedy was released nineteen years ago. Unless my mother was a child bride, I’m not sure the marketing department thought this one through.” 

    But of course they did. And what they thought was, “Let’s throw millennials under the bus like Regina and focus our money-making endeavors on a fresher audience.” That fresh audience being totally unschooled in the ways in which Mean Girls is a product of its time. And so, is it really supposed to be “woke” to change the indelible “fugly slut” line to “fugly cow”? As though fat-shaming is more acceptable than slut-shaming (which also occurs when Karen [Avantika] is derided by both Regina and Gretchen for having sex with eleven different “partners”—the implication perhaps being that maybe some of them weren’t boys). And obviously, Regina saying, “I know what homeschool is, I’m not retarded” had to go. The phrase “social suicide” is also apparently out (even though Olivia Rodrigo is happy to reference it in “diary of a homeschooled girl”). In general, all “strong” language has been eradicated. Something that becomes particularly notable in the “standoff” scene between Janis and Cady after the former catches her having a party despite saying she would be out of town. In this manifestation of the fight, gone are the harshly-delivered lines, “You’re a mean girl, Cady. You’re a bitch!”

    Despite its thud-landing delivery, the messaging of Mean Girls remains the same. Or, to quote the original Cady (evidently an honorary Gen Zer with this zen anti-bullying stance), “Making fun of Caroline Krafft wouldn’t stop her from beating me in this contest. Calling somebody else fat won’t make you any skinnier, calling someone stupid doesn’t make you any smarter. And ruining Regina George’s life definitely didn’t make me any happier. All you can do in life is try to solve the problem in front of you.” Alas, Fey doesn’t solve the problem of bridging millennial pop culture into what little there is of Gen Z’s. At the end of Mean Girls 2024, the gist of Cady’s third-act message becomes (as said by Janis): “Even if you don’t like someone, chances are they still want to just coexist. So get off their dick.”

    The thing is, Mean Girls 2024 can’t coexist (at least not on the same level) with Mean Girls. It’s almost like Cady Heron trying to be the new Regina George. That is to say, it just doesn’t work, and ends up backfiring spectacularly (though not from a financial standpoint, which is all that ultimately matters to most). Unfortunately, when Cady tells Damian at the end of 2004’s Mean Girls, “Hey, check it out. Junior Plastics” and then gives the voiceover, “And if any freshmen tried to disturb that peace…well, let’s just say we knew how to take care of it [cue the fantasy of the school bus running them over],” she added, “Just kidding.” And she was. Otherwise the so-called junior Plastics of Mean Girls 2024 wouldn’t be here, disturbing the millennial peace.

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  • Amy Poehler And Adam Scott Butt Heads In ‘Parks And Rec’ Reunion At SAG Awards

    Amy Poehler And Adam Scott Butt Heads In ‘Parks And Rec’ Reunion At SAG Awards

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    Leslie Knope and Ben Wyatt ― or, rather, the actors who played them ― were at it again at the 2023 Screen Actors Guild Awards.

    Sunday’s ceremony doubled as an unofficial “Parks and Recreation” reunion when Amy Poehler and Adam Scott, who co-starred on the NBC comedy series from 2009 to 2015, took the stage to present the award for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Comedy Series.

    Before announcing Jean Smart as the winner for her performance in “Hacks,” the two actors engaged in a playful feud that harkened back to their “Parks and Rec” characters, who were a married couple.

    Amy Poehler (left) and Adam Scott at the 2023 SAG Awards.

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    “I just want to say I’m thrilled to be here,” Scott, a nominee for Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Drama Series for his portrayal of Mark S. on “Severance,” deadpanned.

    Poehler, however, didn’t miss a beat, suggesting that her former co-star would be better off if he’d “go smoke cigarettes and wear a leather jacket with all the drama people.”

    After Scott zinged Poehler back, she pulled out a classic Leslie Knope line.

    Poehler and Scott weren’t the only “Parks and Recreation” actors in attendance at the SAGs this year.

    Prior to the start of the ceremony, Poehler posed on the red carpet with Aubrey Plaza, who played April Ludgate on the series.

    Amy Poehler (left) and Aubrey Plaza at the 2023 SAG Awards.
    Amy Poehler (left) and Aubrey Plaza at the 2023 SAG Awards.

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    Interestingly, there have been a number of “Parks and Rec” cast reunions this year. In January, Plaza and Poehler reprised their iconic characters for a “Weekend Update” segment on “Saturday Night Live” that poked fun at the pros and cons of local governments.

    And earlier this month, the two women met up with Kathryn Hahn and Rashida Jones, who played Jennifer Barkley and Ann Perkins, respectively, for a “Galentine’s Day” celebration.

    Poehler and Scott as Leslie Knope and Ben Wyatt on NBC's "Parks and Recreation," which aired from 2009 to 2015.
    Poehler and Scott as Leslie Knope and Ben Wyatt on NBC’s “Parks and Recreation,” which aired from 2009 to 2015.

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  • SNL alums Tina Fey and Amy Poehler announce comedy tour

    SNL alums Tina Fey and Amy Poehler announce comedy tour

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    Saturday Night Live alums Tina Fey and Amy Poehler have announced a comedy tour beginning in the spring. 

    The tour will kick off in Washington, D.C., on April 28, and so far, three other dates have been announced for Chicago, Boston and Atlantic City.

    In a video posted to the tour’s official Instagram, Fey jokes, “It’s gonna be an evening of comedy, conversation improv, maybe a little slow-dancing between us… “

    “We don’t know yet, but it’s gonna be awesome,” she adds.

    “We cannot wait to see you!” says Poehler.

    Several users commented that the tour was being announced on Galentine’s Day, a reference to Poehler’s show “Parks and Recreation.”

    “I want to go to there,” wrote a commenter, quoting Fey’s 30 Rock character, Liz Lemon.

    While this is the first time the comedians will be touring together, they’re not strangers to sharing the stage, having hosted the Golden Globes together four times.

    Presale tickets for the tour will be available starting Feb. 15, and general tickets go on sale Feb. 17. A limited number of VIP tickets are also available for online purchase only.

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  • Amber Tamblyn’s Practical Guide to Getting In Touch With What You Already Know

    Amber Tamblyn’s Practical Guide to Getting In Touch With What You Already Know

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    Amber Tamblyn, poet, writer, and actor, made a book for you, and thinks you might want to read it before the midterm elections (November 8). Listening in the Dark: Women Reclaiming the Power of Intuition is like a “good vitamin,” Tamblyn told me on a recent phone call. It comprises essays by writers, doctors, actors, a congresswoman, a political strategist, and more all writing on intuition—a sort of group effort to address modern malaise, one that has deracinated our mind from our body and locked away what we want and what we think in some tower. 

    “We as a culture are in deep need of a different kind of resensitizing,” Tamblyn said. “We are tired and still in a state of shock from so much that has happened over the last several years. And it’s not enough to ask women and minorities to just keep showing up. There’s gotta be new tools and resources for us to show up, and there’s gotta be new investment in the many different forms of our intelligence.”

    The intelligence of our intuition, for example. Tamblyn added, “To me, all of this is tied together with our political output, our ability to fight for ourselves—our ability to not just know something to be true, but to speak on it—is gonna have to come from strengthening our intuitive foundation.”

    The collection, which Tamblyn both edited and contributed to, is a kaleidoscope of windows into that idea. Writer Samantha Irby finds her intuition through putting words down on the page. Amy Poehler writes of losing her innocence and finding her instincts. Hillary Clinton’s onetime right-hand woman Huma Abedin spoke of her own mother’s quick confidence and becoming more like her. Ahead of motherhood, essayist Jia Tolentino writes about female mystics from the Middle Ages. Tamblyn herself writes about the actor Brittany Murphy’s death and peeling away from the dehumanizing audition circuit of her youth. 

    When assembling the group, she wanted to get women of different backgrounds who are prominent in various fields. Also: women who “didn’t have all the answers.” 

    Tamblyn wanted to push past the phrases like “gut feeling” or “inner voice,” and find out what they actually mean in practice. Like, “When you feel something in your body, and your head recognizes it as being true, but then you don’t want it to be true, you’re not ready yet to follow through on what that answer is. What is the reaction that happens?” she wonders. “What has taken place for you in the past? What kind of fear comes up? What do you do with that fear?” 

    For Tamblyn, one of the best examples of that was writing her book of poetry Dark Sparkler, which came from an obsession with the deaths of young actresses, many of whom were Tamblyn’s contemporaries as she rose to prominence starring in Joan of Arcadia and later the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants movies. She writes in Listening in the Dark of how the seed for the book was Brittany Murphy’s death, and how the poem Murphy’s death inspired led to her most popular book of poetry, which she published in 2015.  

    “I think I was unaware of how important that was to me personally, and to my own need for an existential death, plus a sort of rebirth in that way. That was something that I didn’t discover until after writing it,” Tamblyn told me. “And Brittany Murphy’s poem was sort of the precursor to that understanding. So my obsession with her and with the writing of that poem was my intuitive process’s way of saying, We’re going to explore and investigate these stories in preparation for your own metaphorical death and what will come after. And we don’t know what the after looks like. Who knows, but this is where it’s starting and you have no control over it.”

    That strange time in our culture—post-TMZ’s launch but before the idea that you could really make a livelihood of branding yourself—is where Tamblyn had to dig deeper in order to come out the other side a writer. 

    “I hope that women think about their own individual, unique way in which something like that might present to them,” she said. “It might not be they were a child actor, but it could be something else in their life that is pointing them towards a way. And sure, on the surface, it might not seem like it’s leading to anything, but again, following that deep listening might reveal something absolutely revelatory about your life and about your trajectory.”

    And if all of this sounds a little too heady to grasp onto, there’s a poem Tamblyn published at the end that she intends as both a recap of the essays in the book and as an exercise to consider when you sense you have a big decision to make, and would like to really know how you feel about it. If there’s a big choice—stay or leave my job, my spouse, my home, etc.—you could read through it, and then voilà, there is your answer. It begins: 

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