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Karma Koala Podcast 279: Presentation @ Sydney University 21 Nov 2025 – Panel: Achieving Drug Law Reform: The Experience in WA and NSW | Cannabis Law Report

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Ben Mostyn

Academic Fellow, LLB (UNSW) MA (South Florida)

Sydney Law School

Mr Mostyn’s primary research interest is global drug policy. His PhD is examining National Archives documents around Australia’s decision to sign the 1988 United Nations drug convention. He is looking at whether global forces and institutional forces caused Australia to sign the convention and further entrench the global War on Drugs. Related to this research, Mr Mostyn is interested in criminalisation, police powers, drug law reform and regulating global drug markets. Mr Mostyn has worked as a Legal Aid solicitor in human rights law, administrative law, and family law. He completed his Masters at the University of South Florida where he researched transnational social movements and the War on Drugs with a focus on South America.

Emeritus Professor The Hon Dr Geoff Gallop AC

Former Premier of Western Australia

Global Commission on Drug Policy

Emeritus Professor The Hon Dr Geoff Gallop AC was a Member of Western Australia’s Legislative Assembly for 20 years, a Minister in the Lawrence government (1990-93), including Minister for Education and Premier from 2001 to 2006. He was Director of Sydney University’s Graduate School of Government (2006-15) developing programs and teaching in the area of public sector policy and management in Australia, Africa and South-East Asia. From 2007-11 he was Deputy Chair of the COAG Reform Council. Today he is a member of the Global Commission on Drug Policy and chairs the Research Committee of the New Democracy Foundation.

 

Dr Alex Wodak AM

President, Former Director of Alcohol and Drug Service

Australian Drug Law Reform Foundation

Dr Alex Wodak was the Director of the Alcohol and Drug Service at Sydney’s St. Vincent’s Hospital from 1982 to 2012. He’s currently President of the Australian Drug Law Reform Foundation. Alex was also President of the International Harm Reduction Association from 1996 to 2004. He helped establish the first needle syringe programme and the first medically supervised injecting centre in Australia when both were pre-legal. Dr Wodak often works in developing countries on HIV control among injecting drug users. He contributed in 2011 to the Global Commission on Drug Policy. He is a Director of Australia21 and contributed to their report on drug policy. In 2010, Dr Wodak was made a Member of the Order of Australia (AM).

 

Timeline

02:13 Geoff Gallup – WA Experience

03:45: Keeping the public involved – public summit – consultation with police service

05:30: The sky didn’t fall in – change in govt and the Liberals abolished the legislation

07:00: Made the change but didn’t have the political weapons to retain that change

07:50: The current Labor govt in 2025 – attitude?

08:15: The Irish Assembly approach

09:00 Alex Wodak – The arrival of HIV, working at St Vincents

10:00 High risk groups

12:00 Gay population in Sydney and dedication to changing the narrative on HIV through action and concentration of resources

13:00 How to apply same thinking to intravenous drug using population

15:45: Don’t ask for permission – just do it- used own funding to hand out needles for free

17:00: Political interference by US embassy / UN – told to stop  in by powers that be in NSW – refused

20:10: Lesson learnt – Govt too slow to move – Minister sent police to “interview” Wodak

22:30: Every $ spent on needle exchange programmes $28 saved according to studies

23:20: Ben Mostyn – Study on infections question

24:08: How to think about to forcing govt into a regulation conversation(s) – Gay rights & marriage equality a good example of  how to engender reform

26:30: Nonsense policies on tobacco & vaping – destined to collapse – holding Australia back on cannabis reform

27:20 Ben Mostyn Breaking the law leads to good outcomes – failure of Labour governments to move on cannabis regulation – Internation thoughts?

29:30 Geoff Gallup – International Landscape – The UN

29:54: Human Rights at UN & drug policy – Colombia approach – strong vote in favour of Colombian proposals – There is current movement within the UN

33:20: South Africa & The Rastafarian approach

34:30: Positive for the future – Momentum in play as we speak (Alex Wodak) The Vienna Consensus is over

37:45: Ben Mostyn – less pessimistic about UN changes – looking for the open window – minor concessions by UN / politicians

39:30: Andrew Kavasilas – comments from the floor about the Australlian experience

42:20: Brian Walker – Law & False Premise concept – International law based on a lie – what does that mean?

44:10: Ben Mostyn legislation says what it says

45:00: Rhys Cohen  question & thoughts re  current US political thought on cannabis reform – the back & forth on the topic between state & federal and within the GOP

49:00: Alex Wodak data & costs argument re politics & politicians – modest reform brings positive benefits

51:00: Rhys Cohen question to Geoff Gallup – knowing what you know now what are your thoughts?  It’s all about managing opposition

52:00: Taxes issue? Moves legalization forward?

53:00: Ben Mostyn wrap up

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