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The Pogues have a habit of finding the treasure… and then losing the treasure. They really needed a win this season, but actually finding El Dorado is wild. At what point during production did you find out that John B was actually going to lay eyes on the city of gold?
Pretty early on we knew the arc of the season, [but] probably towards the latter half, like the fifth episode was there a real reality of us figuring it out. Our writers have a pretty interesting process of writing scripts. We never really know exactly how the season’s going to end. We have sort of an idea, but for me it was more along the lines of, “OK, this looks cool on paper, but how do we pull this off in real life?” It’s pretty cool to see all the hard work that it took to make El Dorado, the city of gold come to life in our little show.
Do you believe in El Dorado?
I’m a huge believer in lost legends, and I’ve been able to connect with this character and be a part of the Routledge family, [and] you kind of become a little bit obsessed with their world. Treasure hunting and things of that sort have definitely become more of a topic of conversation in my life than they have in the past.
After you wrapped the season, what did decompressing look like for you?
I shaved my head. I finished this season on my 30th birthday, which was a Friday, and we did an overnight and I wrapped at 2:30 in the morning on Saturday. I shaved my head, I think the video was at like 2:47 AM? And then I went on Monday morning to Vancouver to start my next project. So I didn’t really decompress at all. I kind of used all of it and dove into the next project. I was hoping I could decompress after that, but then four days after I finished that film I went and did a film with one of my favorite directors of all time, Nick Cassavetes, who directed The Notebook. I absolutely could not turn that down. And then I finished [that] a couple days before Christmas, and I went straight to my mom’s house, and stayed at her house all the way through the second week of January.
Please get some rest.
I’m working on it.
Let’s talk about John B’s reunion with his dad. You’d think it would be the thing that completes him, but it almost breaks him on a few occasions as he starts to learn who his dad really is, or who he’s become.
With every high there’s a low. One of my good friends Jeremy Pope said in The Hollywood Reporter’s Actors Roundtable [that] he was talking to his therapist and they told him that you’ve got to see your life as a heartbeat on a monitor. The highs and lows mean that you’re alive and if there’s an even feel, that means you’ve flatlined. And I think John B and everybody in life needs to feel the highs and lows of emotions in order to understand what really speaks to them within their family or their found family or within their little world that they live within. John B has spent the last 20 episodes trying to navigate what he’s actually searching for: Is it the gold? Is it the connection to his father? Is it a connection to the world around him?
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