Charlie Kirk said Taylor Swift should ‘submit’ to her husband because she’s ‘not in charge’

Following the Sept. 10, 2025, assassination of conservative activist and podcaster Charlie Kirk, people on social media began highlighting various quotes they claimed he said during his life. One such quote attributed to Kirk on social media sites such as Instagram (archived) and TikTok said popstar Taylor Swift should “submit” to her husband. Swift announced her engagement to Kansas City Chiefs football player Travis Kelce in August 2025.

A clip of the quote was viewed nearly 10 million times since it had been posted to X (archived) on Aug. 26, 2025. The post’s caption claimed Kirk said to Swift, “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.” The quote was also widely shared on Reddit (archived), Instagram (archived) and TikTok (archived) at the time.

The quote was real. Kirk said it on an Aug. 26, 2025, episode of his podcast, “The Charlie Kirk Show,” dedicated to Swift’s engagement. Because of this, we’ve rated the claim as a correct attribution.

The episode, posted to Apple Podcasts on Aug. 26 and the podcast’s website on Aug. 27, was titled “The Biggest Event in American History.” About 13 minutes into the episode as posted to the podcast’s website, Kirk began talking about his hope that Swift would become more conservative after marrying. At about 16:15 he tells Swift to “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”

Here is a full transcript of the portion of the episode that led to the “submit to your husband” quote:

But maybe one of the reasons why Taylor Swift has been so, just, kind of annoyingly liberal over the last couple of years is that she’s not yet married and she doesn’t have children. I say this non-sarcastically. I say this as a husband and a father. Having children changes you. Getting married changes you, and I hope that America’s biggest pop star marrying the pharmaceutical spokesperson ends up conservatizing them. Taylor Swift might deradicalize herself. She might come back down to reality. I want them to have lots of children. It teaches something about — teaches you something about yourself.

Deep down I think Taylor Swift actually was raised as a conservative that has gotten kinda caught up in this metropolitan liberal stuff and she doesn’t quite have an attachment to the conservative backbone that she was raised in. But this might reattach her in the best possible way, and I’m not saying this sarcastically. I’ve seen this happen time and time again; when people start to marry and have children, it starts to change your politics, it starts to clarify your world view. 

And for Taylor Swift, who obviously is very popular and incredibly supported — Taylor Swift might go from a cat lady to a JD Vance supporter, and I think we should celebrate that. I think that Taylor Swift having two or three children — she should have more children than she has houses. That is my challenge, Taylor Swift. And I’m not being sarcastic. I think that if she ends up having children, she’ll stop this kind of liberal endorsing Joe Biden nonsense.

And we want Taylor Swift on team America. We want you to leave the island of the wokeys. And we would welcome you with open arms. One of the reasons why so many people on the right have been just skeptical or at least a little bit negative on Taylor Swift is, up until this point, that’s not a great role model for young women, to wait all the way until you’re 35 and just put your career first. We just talked about this with Katie Miller. However, there’s a great chance to change that.

It’s a great chance for Taylor Swift now to get married and have a ton of children. You can certainly afford it, Taylor.

And Taylor Swift has been all through America and the ups and the downs, and if you feel that violent shaking in your home that is the earthquake of the pop culture. If you hear that high-pitched scream, those are the young ladies on your block screaming. And honestly, Pfizer pays well, baby. I mean, Pfizer pays the bills. That is quite a ring, Mr. Kelce. I’m impressed. I gotta be honest, we don’t know exactly how much Pfizer paid you to peddle that product, but boy, you brought in the Benjamins, sir. That is some impressive karats right there. That right there has its own ZIP code. I’m impressed.

All kidding and sarcasm aside, this is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative. Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.

And most importantly, I can’t wait to go to a Taylor Kelce concert. I can’t say it without laughing. You’ve got to change your name. If not, you don’t really mean it.

Kirk shared that portion of the episode to his Rumble account (archived) and YouTube. A couple of days after that episode, he doubled down in another episode, which he also shared to Rumble (archived).

For further reading, Snopes has verified the authenticity of a number of quotes attributed to Kirk since his assassination.