Lupe: I’m crazy about you too, buddy.
Honestly, that scene felt like a luxury for me. I was really grateful to have the scene because I also feel like there’s [some of] what Alan said earlier about them serving as a function in other people’s stories. And this felt like it was just our little story. It just felt like we had been touching this over and over and over again over all the seasons and having this dialogue of just touching it and not really quite naming it. It felt cathartic for both me as an actor and these characters to be doing that scene.
Ruck: It’s funny, in the actual little wedding bit on the page, it was an eighth of a page, and it was like “the celebrant has just married Willa and Connor.” And then it said, “They embrace,” or, “They kiss,” I guess, or they embrace, whatever. But it was a little tiny bit. But then when we did it, we had big words to say, we had vows, we had all this stuff. And I think it was just to get that little moment of us hugging in the right zone. But [director Mark Mylod] is like, “Feel the whole day, feel everything that’s happened. I need to feel some of that sadness.”
Where do you think Connor’s political ambition feeds into everything that’s going on? Or do you think he has stopped thinking about it at this point briefly?
Ruck: He wanted to do all this crazy bullshit for the wedding, much to Willa’s chagrin, bum fights and firetrucks and all that kind of ridiculous stuff. Obviously, that was all dismissed. I don’t think on the wedding day and on the day of Logan’s death, Connor’s thinking too much about the political career, except the whole reason he wanted to run for office was to impress the old man. I don’t think he’s thinking about it today. Then you’ll see what happens with the rest of it and where he goes with that. I can’t tell you anything.
Lupe: I will say, I feel like it stood out, just that you’re the only sibling that doesn’t kind of turn to, how are people going to receive this? How is this going to look like? What is this going to do financially? Really, there was no acknowledgement of how politically that would affect you.
Ruck: I think it might occur to him the next day. I I can’t actually remember what we did in four. I mean, I remember little snapshots, but I can’t exactly remember if Connor acknowledged that in any way, like this would be a boost.
Has it fully sunk in that this is the last season yet?
Lupe: I think it’s sunk in. Don’t you?
Ruck: Yeah, it’s just one of those weird things. I mean, I’m sure we’ll get to see each other. I know there’ll be awards for people and for the show, and we’ll get to see each other again as a group. I know it in my mind, but I don’t think I know it in my heart yet that I’m not going to be at work with these buddies.
Lupe: Same. I don’t know if there’ll be ever a time where I feel like I could fully mourn losing that. It’s so big that it’s hard to quite go, “Yep, I’ve internalized it.” But I do think I really feel that it’s closed.
Esther Zuckerman
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