And the best performance by an actress who is married to a murderer and pretending to be a waitress named Emily goes to…Sally Reed!

After last Sunday’s Barry concluded by jumping ahead in time, the fifth installment of the final season, “tricky legacies,” officially catches up with the new lives of Barry (Bill Hader) and Sally (Sarah Goldberg). After escaping prison, Barry asked Sally to join him on the run. Having just unsuccessfully tried to steal a blockbuster role from her own student, a defeated Sally was immediately in.

Eight years later, the duo are now known as Clark and Emily, living in the middle of nowhere, and raising a young son. Barry spends his days at home, watching their boy, John, and teaching him a lot about Abraham Lincoln. Sally works at a diner, where she uses the bathroom to snort Xanax with one coworker and choke another. Her miserable reality is eventually upended when she learns that Gene Cousineau (Henry Winkler) has resurfaced in Los Angeles and will consult on a Barry biopic. “They’re making a movie about us,” she tells Barry. His reply? “I’m gonna have to kill Cousineau.”

To answer some burning Sally questions, we chatted with Goldberg about finding inspiration from another HBO series, why on Earth Sally feels safe with Barry, and going full Hader by creating her own starring vehicle: SisterS, coming to IFC May 17.

Vanity Fair: Between Barry ending and SisterS beginning, it’s surely a wild and emotional time right now.

Sarah Goldberg: My head’s spinning, for sure. It’s been seven years since I was hired for Barry, and it feels like a full-life cycle. That job meant so much to all of us, and we’ve made friends for life, and it feels like we left the story in the right place. So there’s a collective pride in releasing it out into the world and letting it go. But then it’s also mixed with huge nostalgia and just sadness that we’re not going to be on set together, huddled in dark corners, drinking cups of tea at all hours of the day. I’m Canadian, so they’ll never get rid of me. They’ll be hearing from me daily, but we won’t be together like that again.

I need to start with my most pressing question: Do we think that Sally actually saw Coda?

[Laughs.] That’s such a good question; nobody’s asked me that. I do think she saw Coda. In fact, I think she really, really, really loved it. It’s funny; I improvised that line. Ellyn Jameson, who plays the Mega Girl, and I were chatting about Coda in the trailer before meeting Sian [Heder, who plays herself on Barry], and we both were like, “I could cry just thinking about it.” So I threw it in. But yeah, I think Sally has seen it, and it’s maybe one of her favorite films.

Coming into Barry’s swan song, what excited you about Sally’s arc?

Between the pilot and shooting the first season, we were sent four scripts to read, and then Bill called all of us for our notes. And we were shocked—like, who does that? As an actor, you don’t usually get that amount of creative license. And so all the way back then, I’d said to him, “I’d really love to push Sally into Gena Rowlands territory, A Woman Under the Influence or Opening Night. I want to go really far with this character.” And he was like, “Okay, I see that too.” He made me that promise all those years ago, and so, with the arc this season, we see a huge pivot from Sally, and I was thrilled at the challenge and chance to do something totally new. It’s pretty rare in TV that characters get to evolve the way they do on a show like Barry

Derek Lawrence

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