Jeff Dunham and his puppet pals aren’t really a controversial bunch, and most of the ventriloquist’s comedy is rather family-friendly. However, every now and then, Dunham dabbles in political humor, most recently with his dummy Walter’s impersonations of both Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Neither is particularly mean-spirited, leaving many to wonder where Jeff Dunham stands politically. Well as it turns out, the fact that we don’t know where he leans is by design, and there’s a very practical, business-related reason for said centrism.

I recently caught up with Jeff Dunham to discuss his new Comedy Central special Me The People, and when I inquired as to how he navigates his political jabs, he said the following:

Even some of my friends that are on the right, they’d see when I would make fun of Trump, when Walter would turn into Grump and we’d do those videos, they’d go, ‘wait a minute.’ And now Walter comes out as Biden and he pretends he’s Biden. So I do, you know, it’s the old school thing of not picking a side, but being able to make fun of both sides equally, but not in a mean way. And I’ve said this a million times, I think comedians today make the mistake of picking a side and calling the whole group an idiot… And then it’s just like, okay, you’ve lost half your fans or half the people that could be fans now don’t even want to hear your name. And from a business standpoint, I just think that’s silly.

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