“The case is so strong. You cannot imagine his getting away with this,” she said on MSNBC on Sunday. “I’m wearing a toast pin today because I think he’s toast.”

Wine-Banks said she believes the grand jury had already heard this recording ― and predicted that it would be very damaging for Trump.

“There’s nothing as compelling as hearing a defendant in a criminal case say words that show his criminality,” she said. “And these words certainly show that he knew that he hadn’t declassified documents that he still retained.”

She said Trump’s only real play would be the claim he was lying on the tape ― but said that probably wouldn’t fly given all the other evidence against the former president.

See more of her discussion on MSNBC below:

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